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Take the FLU shot or be fired!

Posted by HoustonLadybug 3 years, 2 months ago to Ask the Gulch
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I got a Religious Exemption at the Hospital System I work at so I do not have to take the covid-19 so called vaccine. Now, for the first time ever we have to do the same if we do not take the FLU vaccine. I just can't figure out why the Hospital System is going to that extreme about the FLU shots. Why do ya'll think they are doing that about the FLU shots?

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    Posted by JohnRandALL 3 years, 2 months ago
    Because their plan is to combine the flu and COVID vaccine in to one shot. Oh, and boosters every 6 months. I just quit my job in health care, rather than get the shot. They called it retirement, I call it being pushed out after working there 14 years. I will never get the COVID shot.
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    • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 2 months ago
      I've read, and you can take that with a grain of salt, that the flu shot is part of the plan to start weeding out people. Essentially those who took the jab have permanently weakened immune systems and a portion of them will not take well to the flu shot and some will even die. The flu shot, which have been relatively harmless before, can now be lethal to some.

      I seriously hope I heard wrong.
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      • Posted by chad 3 years, 2 months ago
        The flu shots were never effective. When 60% of those who receive the vaccine still get the flu it is debatable how many of the 40% were even exposed and thus protected it seems an ineffective way to prevent a disease. So many people have died taking this inoculation or have suffered physical harm it is not worth the risk for a disease that has such a low death rate.
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        Posted by Lucky 3 years, 2 months ago
        Some say that, other say bah! Conspiracy theory.
        New evidence seeps thru the censorship showing things are worse than we thought.

        The way my thinking is changing, well, I agree-
        I seriously hope I heard wrong.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 2 months ago
    It is all about compliance. I believe, and its my own speculation, that the mRNA element is nothing more than a delivery system that weakens natural immunity and creates a subscription service for individual health. One company will create new threats and another will create a $3k subsidized booster to cure what their counter-part made.. Hospitals will profit by being paid to identify the affliction, perhaps even before its released.

    Like the hitler quote I posted elsewhere. With enough people now jabbed my generation is inconsequential. When we're gone health subscriptions will be the norm as will dictating your life to ensure your health. The real question is whether we'll be able to live out our lives or we'll be starved out or poisoned by the lemmings who took the jab and are shedding spiked proteins.

    We are in the can't buy, sell or trade stage of things now. I intend to stock up, stay well armed., and ride out the clock. It not living, but the rest of my days will be mine.

    Incidentally, the Bill of Rights doesn't require an exemption. To comply means you relinquished your natural right to self determination to others.
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    • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 3 years, 2 months ago
      This is actually plausible.
      The problem I have with this theory though is....
      If I’m a farmer. And I have livestock. Do I want stubborn livestock that are constantly breaking the fences and causing problems? Or do I want compliant livestock that will produce without question and quietly get on the trailer when it’s time to go to the abattoir?
      Which of those genetics do I want to encourage?
      It doesn’t make any sense to kill off the vaxxed.
      If in 3-5 years all the vaxxed are dead, now the UnVaxxed have empirical evidence of foul play on the part of the powers that shouldn’t be. The pitchforks and guillotines come out at that point. That’s terrible planning on the part of the elites. They are smarter than that. Obviously they’ve risen to their current power level because they consistently out think their opponents.
      In my opinion, there are easier and sneakier ways to just outright kill people to meet some depopulation goal.
      This is a culling, if it is anything.
      Now if the ruling class are just a bunch of incompetent fools. All bets are off.
      Maybe I give them too much credit. But in my experience stupid people are terrible liars. And these guys are virtuosos of their craft.
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      • Posted by chad 3 years, 2 months ago
        Your argument makes sense to me and I wonder if they have a select few that get the shot (saline solution) that's marked for them. Even randomly distributing saline solutions ensures some survive and are then controllable.
        Those who resist are becoming fewer quickly with the threat of continued employment or other sanctions brought against them.
        Though the resistors are a significant number at this point there are not enough who truly resist by not complying. Those visible resistors (demonstrators) are whining and complaining hoping to be recognized but still await the decision of their masters to allow them to be free.
        This attempt would collapse if people simply went to work, ignored those who demand servile behavior. Far too many comply and the corporate and businesses that are creatures of the state fearing retribution demand obedience of the serfs. There are never enough 'police' to enforce the rules, it requires the cooperation of the serfs and that is what they have.
        I do not expect this to be suddenly resolved in favor of those who prefer liberty.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 2 months ago
    If this mandate crap had happened 'back in the day', I'm talking about the '60's. I know one Executive V.P. of a world wide company who would have been sans an Executive Secretary. Then he would have kicked the crap out of that mandate because he couldn't blow his nose without me. N
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  • Posted by HoustonLadybug 3 years, 2 months ago
    For every Inpatient Covid diagnosis Hospitals are getting a small forture from the federal government. Hospitals want that money no matter what. If I don't get my religious exemption, after I get my 401K in my bank, I'm standing on the side of the road near my work with a pot asking for donations and the sign will say something like "Not A Hero NOW". And yes, I plan on doing that.
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    • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 2 months ago
      I just saw a patient's billing from the same hospital I was in May 13-15. He went in with Covid (ages 30+) I went in because of an 80% blockage in my heart and I am 84. My bill was 4 figures...his was high five! They whacked off $36,000 and it was still high five. They are making a fortune over this 'Pandemic'.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 2 months ago
    the list of violations from these "health care" companies is legion

    they violate
    Informed Consent
    Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act
    Nurnberg Policy against human experimentation
    they are practicing extortion, demanding we do something or get fired
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    • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
      do you even know why there is a section out of the Nurnberg Trial that would includes a policy against human experimentation Because the Nazis were doing that in the concentration camps. I have no doubt these or their decedents are also behind all this at least in part.
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      • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 2 months ago
        I have also read the Nuremberg Pact. Those idiots in DC don't follow it or the Constitution. My big question is, why don't the "doctors' today seem to care or study anything about those of us who have had COVID? I had a doctor tell me I should still have the vax. I just nodded as I left his clinic. I haven't been back.
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        • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
          Good for you, DON'T follow the rest of the sheep. I think what you are seeing is a take over of all services Food, Medical, Government and unfortunately military. This has taken place over several decades. Those who will do the bidding of the sitting president get to stay while those who pass are let go. In one presidency not a lot of change but over say 70 years a lot of good people can be replaced with a lot of bad people. This is where we are currently. I am about to say something that may offend some of you and with all my heart that is not my intentions. But it explains everything we are seeing. I am a Christian and there are two warning signs we are told will happen in the "End Times" 1) Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good. 2) We fight not against flesh and blood but agains Evil and Principalities in high places. Even if you do not believe in God (as I do) you just have to look around at what is happening and if you are willing to see with open eyes. These two comments match perfectly with what is happening. Oh and one other observation Our History is being removed and re written For years I saw this happening in muslim nations but now it has been brought to our country. American history is not always pretty. In fact it can be quite dark. BUT, to understand our history is to know who we are, where we have come from who we are today and the direction we are going as a people. I hope this sheds some light on what is happening and why doctors are not here to help you but to keep you sick for profit.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 2 months ago
    glad for you!! to avoid covid
    my place turn down all requests, religious and medical

    there is no logic
    it is about power and control
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  • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
    First off the government is behind the changes you are seeing. For every death in a hospital since this crap started, they have been paid to say it was from covid. The hospitals have become greedy. Now they want more money or for it to continue to flow in. So even though it's all outside of the US Constitution they will do as the government tells them too. Since this whole mess is NOT a law, they can not make you do something. But they use scare tactics to scare you into doing what they want you to do. However they must also make available for those who will not under any condition accept their mandate a way to get out of it. In comes the Religious Exemption. By accepting the Religious Exemption you are also verifying the rest of the mandate is legal. I carry with me a copy of the mandate that is signed by the board of commissioners. When I go someplace that requires I wear a mask I show them this paper and point out where it says you don't have to wear a mask. They let me in. I am using their own mandate against them. I know, it sounds stupid but it works.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 3 years, 2 months ago
    Folks, on shots and mandates. Fact: There is NO FDA approved vaccine in the U.S. The one they "approved" is made in Germany, has not even got its labeling approved and is not available. The Pfizer EUA was extended. Ergo, all three shots are still EUA. That means they need your consent. They cannot mandate, or require a EUA shot. Period. Need to find a good lawyer and strike back. Issue is corrupt Judges, ignoring the obvious, but that can be appealed, and, if worse come to worse, you have to decide, HOWEVER, you will have one hell of a lawsuit for damages. If you gave up and/or forced to "retire" or quit, keep all your records and proof you were forced out, get emails, letters etc, and hang on, as this is far from over. Think about it,: FDA "approves" a nonexistent vaccine, in such a mush mouth way people assume it is the current Pfizer one. Then comes the "mandate" . People assume all is up and up. But read the actual approvals and such and you find out it was all another lie. I am sure some companies never think, or research, just react. There is no official mandate, OSHA never made one, it was just a "white House Press Release". Also, you can demand the list of ingredients, which is not available for any of the three, same for Flu shot. You must be provided that before a shot can be administered, but only if you ask for it. Demand proof of all the above. If your employer says, get shot or quit, then ask employer what approved shots are available, then have that FDA approval letter, and say "This one"? If they say yes, ask to see vial. Make them go do their homework. My employer chose to ignore the whole thing (120K company) and seems to just want to wait it out, as they have some pretty good risk lawyers who probably saw they are screwed either way, but a mandate would subject them to Nuremberg Law violations as well as damages and lawsuits.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 3 years, 2 months ago
    Only time will tell what this FrankenJuice does to us and what new technologies they've blended into it but yeah, what makes me personally suspicious about this being much, much more than they are telling us is the simple fact of the militant, aggressive and coercive nature of this whole vaccine drive. Especially the coercion.

    As a professional space cadet I got that ultimatum too: "Submit to getting this unwanted and unneeded medication shot into your body, or kiss your entire career goodbye." Since early retirement is absolutely not an option for me and I love space like I love Paris and Kyoto and half a dozen ex-g/fs, on Thurs I went in and put my neck on their chopping-block. I opted for the J&J variety because it's a single shot only (well until the Mengele-wannabes in D.C. decide that it isn't,) and it's reportedly designed like a conventional vaccine rather than the messing with the RNA that went into the Moderna and Pfizer. I hasten to add that I know zilch about pharmaceuticals and that I realize that this is only a pathetic attempt to make the best of a rotten situation, but that's what I did.

    If you don't hear from me in the months to come, assume this poison killed me.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 2 months ago
    Have you seen the TV ad for the flu shot, it has so many warning and precautions about who should not take it! CVS says they will never give me a flu shot with my allergies! They are way out of line, there is not and has not been a flu epidemic in years, and even then, no mandates. Now, the biggest danger I see is when Fauci's gain of function MERS virus is dumped from the air on big cities, but the flu vaccine will not help that.
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    • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
      I know hahaaha you have to ask yourself what is worse what I have now or what I could get if I take the cure for what I have now? But DON'T worry, what ever you have they have a pill for it. Before you take that pill you have to ask yourself am I willing to gamble with my health or my life? Because that is what you are doing
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 2 months ago
        When you consider is is reported by some of Fauci's former co-workers, that ADIS and even cancer have been caused by vaccines. On doc there was finding the link whch showed cancer popped up after vaccines became more common. The current vaccine has a elecment of HIV in it, what to better take down your immune system? When head of covid19 taskforce said publicly that the vaccine :erases the immune system" - you have to question their motives.
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        • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
          It's one of many reasons why I will not follow or comply with ANY of what is being demanded (through scare tactics) that the sheep do this or else! What concerns me is how easily people are coerced into killing themself for a plate of beans.
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          • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 2 months ago
            I saw it coming when I first contacted HS classmate Tome DeWeese about what was ging taught in schools just pre Columbine. He informed me it all went back to the UN Agenda 21, which seems always to pop up, vaccines, climate change, brainwashing in schools, and Biden's latest Herigage sites to further erode property rigts of citizens, which the UN wants gone. I have watched the UN for 2 decades now, nailed it when AOC gave them the plaigiarized version of UN Agenda 21. It is a one world gov. catch all aimed at making the UN head of everything.It was UN driven programs along with Rockefeller Fdn. and Ford Fdn. which led to pushing sutdents to hate capitalism and embrace socialsim, to become sheep, for decades now.
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            • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
              ABSOLUTELY and this has been going on for decades. To be honest I suspect it's been happening since we were just a colony. But that is just my opinion.
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              • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 2 months ago
                People are beginning to wake up.
                https://www.brighteon.com/f04cabf8-a6...
                Doctors are speaking out. The health industry has been harming us for profit, but now it is for one wrld government and depopulation.
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                • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
                  The government is rubbing their hands in glee while on the outside they are going whoah is me over all the doctors and nurses leaving the field. Those same doctor's and nurses and everyone else should be opening up private practice's and refusing insurance coverages. Go back to their first Oath to care for the sick and treat with preventive medicine.
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                  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 2 months ago
                    All along they thought that just pitting the vaxed against the unvaxed would do it for them. The ones with the death shot would force the ones who knew better to take it. But no, doctors and nurses know better, people are getting wise to the tactic. They may find they have to show themselves for the Nazis they are.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 2 months ago
    Time for a new religion which says god requires each person to make up their own mind
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    • Posted by $ root1657 3 years, 2 months ago
      We already have it. Right there in the bible, as much as they like to throw Romans 13 at us, ask them if they've ever read Romans 14.... 12So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. 13Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.
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      • Posted by term2 3 years, 2 months ago
        I think it would have to be a new religion carefully crafted to pass muster as an official religion with tenets, bishops, some sort of heaven/hell, etc.

        It would need beliefs that were to be unchallenged and therefore sent down from "god"
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        • Posted by $ root1657 3 years, 2 months ago
          Um, yeah..... That's what we already have.... Except I'd reverse the 2 parts of your last line, in that it's sent from God, and therefore, challenged at risk of your own peril...
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      • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
        EXACTLY, your comment will not get any backlash from me. Funny thing is, I was told i could not do ANY proselytizing in Galt's Gulch? I have said less than you just did here. I guess they like you better LOL Carry On
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        • Posted by $ root1657 3 years, 2 months ago
          Naw, they don't like me any better. I was here in the early days, had that dollar sign next to my name and everything, till a few too many were bashing on Christians far too much. Ironic that here of all places I was expected to pay for the privilege of having people hate me.... And so I shrugged off that dollar sign, and put it in the collection plate, cause it's mine to chose what to do with as I see fit. That whole thing about not expecting anyone to live their life for me sure does ring of Romans 14, as mentioned above... I wouldn't proselytize though. Anyone that wants it can seek it, and anyone who doesn't, wouldn't do em any good to put it in front of them. Each will search for truth, and many here know that A=A.... Only a few will know alpha=omega.
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          • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
            Thats just it i wasn't proselytizing, I was just accused of doing it. It is my desire that when I speak, I speak what God would have me speak. I Pray for you the same fate. Let no man prevent you from being the person God would have you be lest you participate in the Great Falling Away as mentioned by God before His return.
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  • Posted by nsnelson 3 years, 2 months ago
    Can you give details on what went into getting your Religious Exemption? My wife is in the same situation, with her work requiring the vaccine OR ELSE by December 8. They haven’t given instructions yet on how to apply for an exemption.
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    • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
      Seek not a religious exemption but instead seek out the very mandate they use against you. I got a copy on the one used in my state. Once you get past all teh legal double speak there is a single paragraph that addresses those of us who wish not to be masked or jabbed. That is your exemption. I carry a copy with me in case I need it. So far I just show the paper and no one reads it but allows me past. It may also work for you at work? May God go with you, Be strong in His name and claim His power.
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  • Posted by Shannon 3 years, 2 months ago
    My company is headquartered in AZ, but I am in CA. Trying to figure out what to do. I am the primary breadwinner in our home right now and even when I am not, our health insurance is through me (we have an awesome premium and I have an awesome employer). We just bought a house. I have MS so if I lose my job I lose my health insurance and with it the medication that keeps me functional. It has taken 15 years and 7 meds to get into remission. I have a medical exemption. But, weekly tests? Will I lose our insurance anyway? Will I lose my job?

    Our family had C19 and we got over it. It was rough, but we are fine. My teen son developed Ulcerative Colitis and now has his own health regime, expensive meds, and regular procedures. Of course the two are not related (sure..not). I do not think he will get a medical exemption. The governor just mandated school children be vaccinated. He goes to an online school in ID, so there is that.

    Not sure how to fight this. I keep hearing we gotta take a stand. Against who and for who? Over half the country seems to be sheeple. It feels like I am supposed to fight for my country, but my country won't fight for me or anyone else, or our God given freedoms. Any suggestions are welcome. Any words of wisdom for peace of mind and encouragement is welcome.
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    • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
      Sir, if I may, I remind you of the lone student who so boldly stood before a tank and refused it to pass in Tiananmen Square. One man can stand for what is right. I pray God will give you what you need to be such a person in this fight. Most Americans will never wake up. They are the Sheople who sway and bend with the prevailing winds. They will always be asleep. However there are those of us who are awake. I am a Sheepdog and it is my good pleasure to offer you encouragement by word. If I was in Ca. I would do it also in deed as well as my word. There are others, seek them out. God will show you.
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      • Posted by VetteGuy 3 years, 2 months ago
        Our mobs are much less well-behaved than the Chinese military. See Minneapolis, Portland, LA, New York for examples. Or ask Rand Paul, or Manchin..
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        • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
          I have to say when I first read your comment that I do realize the scale of the challenge ahead of you. Thats why I was surprised when I remembered the young man in Tienenman Square so quickly. it was like a flash in my head that I could see so clearly. However when I read your response this morning I must admit a big smile came across my face, because another example for a possible solution came to mind. Both are equally bold in their solution to the immediate challenge. You see I do believe God provides us with answers or solutions to things happening in our daily life. I must also admit I don't always remember this fact when I should, but today is our lucky day.

          As you read on understand that although your problem and both challenges I described here are vastly different, what I call the "Root" solution is the same. That is if you choose to accept it, which is entirely up to you. What I am about to describe to you is how four men tackled a problem faced by a friend of theirs.



          Four men arrive late, carrying a paralyzed man on his bed. When they realize that they cannot possibly get him through the door, (because of a huge crowd) they carry their helpless paralytic friend upstairs to the roof and lower the bed in front of Jesus as He is speaking. Their determination to place him before Jesus displays their Faith that he would be healed. Instead of being deterred by the problem of the crowds, they see the possibilities for solving it. If they could only involve God, they thought, things would go well. The persevering efforts of the four friends pay off for their paralytic friend as they help make possible his spiritual healing as well as his physical healing. Their actions are an example of the apostle James' statement in James 2:18: "I will show you my faith by my works."

          Christ finds faith in the friends, and He honors their faith, rather than any faith the sufferer has. Of course, no one can be saved by another's faith. Yet, another or others can help him along to Christ since only He can deliver him from the bondage of sin. Being pleased with their works, which exhibited their faith, Christ responds to their resourcefulness and perseverance on behalf of their suffering friend. Their faith in Christ, then, is the catalyst in His performing this miracle. Our Savior works where faith is present (Luke 5:20). Obviously, He can perform His work anywhere regardless of human faith, but He often chooses not to act when people lack faith in Him, as happened in Nazareth (Matthew 13:58).

          Hope motivates the paralytic's friends to manifest faith. First, their faith is a wise faith in that it brought the paralytic to the only One who could heal. Second, it is a persistent faith because it is undeterred by seemingly overwhelming obstacles. Third, it is a sacrificial faith in that it gives of its time and effort to bring the paralytic before Christ. Fourth, it is an unintimidated faith because it is unashamedly displayed in public. Fifth, it is a humble faith since the friends do not ask Jesus to come to him but take him to Jesus. Sixth, it is a loving faith because the friends willingly expend great effort to get him real help. Finally, it is an active faith in that they take the man to Christ rather than sit around complaining and grumbling about their friend's woeful condition.





          (3) Then they came to Him, bringing a paralytic who was carried by four men. (4) And when they could not come near Him because of the crowd, they uncovered the roof where He was. So when they had broken through, they let down the bed on which the paralytic was lying. (5) When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven you." Mark 2:3-5
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 2 months ago
    It's about submission, I think. I couldn't stop getting the flu until I stopped taking the flu shot - about 17 years ago now...
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 2 months ago
    methinks they will mix this vaccine with the FLU vaccine...

    The funny thing about the FLU vaccines... The people that push them are ALSO the least likely to take them... I know many doctors, nurses, and pharmacists who won't take one, and don't feel they need one...
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    • Posted by N316Jobs 3 years, 2 months ago
      EXACTLY, do as i say not as I do. Do you REALLY think when they showed pence or any other big wig wannabe taking the shot that they REALLY did get it OH HECK NO!!!!! getting a band-aide put on your arm is NOT getting a jab!
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