Well it is D O N E

Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 11 months ago to News
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Well, it is done. Biden is President. Totalitarians, liars and thieves have taken control. Terrible day.

However, we now have a large granite monument, demonstrating that the legion of rumors promulgated by various sources along the lines of:
- "Heads will roll"
- "Big News coming"
- "Massive indictments on the way"
- "It is all part of a plan"
- "Trump has them just where he wants them"
were complete nonsense. All previous contrary predictions were false.

Likely these were distributed, preying on a hungry audience, with the intention to polarize and paralyze the US by foreign agents.

We have learned something from any false hope, and need not repeat the error. Fool me once, shame on you ... Fool me twice, I don't learn...
SOURCE URL: https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-sworn-in-as-46th-president-of-the-united-states_3664308.html


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  • Posted by Ben_C 3 years, 11 months ago
    Let the games begin. 27 trillion in debt. 22 trillion spent on LBJ's war on poverty and where are we today? I fear for my kids and grand kids. When the bubble bursts - and it will, it is going to get really ugly. No doubt the founding fathers have a tear in their eyes while watching the US move from capitalism to socialism.
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      Not much doubt unemployment and inflation are going to begin. A friend of mine suggested that the service economy we have migrated to lacks stability and could implode. No one wants to do real work anymore. Could implode on the dems, that would be great. Have to hope for something.
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      • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
        I think we are living too far from our roots as human beings. A lot of the goods we buy we dont really need, and that applies to the services we buy too. This is a time to re-evaluate what we are spending our money on and cut back to a simpler and more rewarding life- without facebook, twitter, video games, and so many other things we have been sold on.

        I am not saying we have to go back to raising chickens and cows , but maybe we dont need to go out to eat so much. When I was a kid, we hardly ever went out to eat like we do now. We made and brought lunch to school and work, and the family had dinner together- like every night.
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        • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 11 months ago
          Nothing wrong with chickens and cows -- my folks had a sweet hobby farm and 80% of our nutrition came off the farm. I do see your point though. A good start, for me, would be to simply turn off the internet at a certain hour... sort of a detox / cleansing.
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    • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
      the founding fathers knew that what they created would NOT last. Civilizations seem to last 200-250 years, and we are past that point already. They fail because the people eventually forget what made the civilization succeed in the first place.
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      • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 11 months ago
        Yes, we are in a long period of lethargy, decadence... a stark disconnect between Appearances and Reality.
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        • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
          the founding fathers knew about how long it would take for the country to disintegrate. They tried to make the constitution bulletproof, but they left a glaring hole in it by not protecting property rights.
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    • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
      Read https://themarshallreport.wordpress.c...

      THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!
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      • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
        yeah, its called out pretty much right in Atlas Shrugged
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          Our military has taken their oath to protect and defend us. We are in God's hands now and forever. All will be revealed in His time. Enjoy the show.
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          • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
            the military will go where the money is I think. If biden pays them, they will do what he wants. It sure worked that way with USSR back when the berlin wall came down
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            • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
              Stop your senseless worrying, please. We are under GESARA. Watch this or do your own research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jek1W...
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              • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
                I dont worry. What is going to happen will happen whether or not I know about it or do about it. The only reason to even think about what the government is going to do is so that I can protect myself from IT. Government is our enemy.
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                • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
                  There is a new federation under the first Constitution. The courts are all moving from admiralty law to constitutional law. I can tell you with certainty that a new government is being formed and it is not our enemy. It is global. I think the best think to know is that there will no longer be an enemy. We will all work together and be on equal footing financially, mentally & physically. The currency is gold backed now. Watch the video in the link I sent you previously. Everything is going to change in 2021. When Trump said, "The Best Is Yet To Come," it is. Be patient and believe that what is about to unfold is going to be Biblical.
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                  • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
                    As it says in the Bible, "Nothing is hidden that will not be manifest." The Capitol will be holding the military tribunals and the swamp will be cleaned in a swift fashion for the world to see. Sit back and enjoy the show. Biden's so-called presidency is a fraud and so was the inauguration. There is no president at the moment. FEMA is in control. We the People are in very good hands. You need to read this: https://intothelight.news/knowledge-base/nesara/
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                • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
                  If there is a meltdown, I figure I have much more resources than most, virtually everyone in my financial/high tech/liberal town. Not getting washed in the first or second waves, but a lot of bankers and government technologists are going to wonder how to hunt and defend themselves. Can use my hands, a stick, knives, and the louder things.
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                  • Posted by term2 3 years, 11 months ago
                    The thing that is gong to be difficult is that we will hve to accept a much lower standard of living than we have now. Once the money is destroyed and they make holding gold and silver illegal, it will be much harder to pay for things we are accustomed to
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      Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
      "Let the games begin. 27 trillion in debt."
      There is a good chance the deficit will continue the same as the past four years, resulting in another 8 trillion over four years. In this scenario, people longing for "four more years" will get their wish.
      That means the debt would be $35T by 2024, assuming the monetary crisis that will stop the party doesn't occur before then.
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      • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
        And it will be (would’ve been) better with this parties administration? Spending clearly higher. The only way the debt would be better is if they hadn’t improved the tax plan. Meaning we pay more.

        What about this is better?
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          Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
          "What about this is better?"
          I am not certain it is better. I think this problem is mostly unrelated to who is president. I do not know a solution to the problem.

          My wild guess prediction: Deficits stay in the $2T range for two years, making the debt $31T. Republicans win control of the Senate and maybe the House. They use the issue of the deficit to undermine Biden's agenda. (This is a good thing.) Deficits fall steadily to the $500B range.

          Even that guess makes it seem like the problems are really related to politics and if we just elected the good people, we could beat this problem. That is completely wrong. The problem comes from a) insufficient protections against the people voting themselves money, b) citizens who are often not knowledgeable about economics and are in too much debt themselves, c) no widely understood philosophical understandings on government. There may be other reasons. I'm sure, though, that it's not that we elect immoral people.
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          • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
            Buddy, you are beating around the bush in this discussion, and avoiding the direct answer, again. This has gotten annoying. Thought you were a non-religious, freedom guy, but think you are here for sport, and fit in with the rest of the Madison crowd. I was duped.
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              Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
              Dude, this answered your question, gave numerical details, and then explained clearly why. You respond with ad hominem claims about someone you don't know.

              I suspect it sounds like beating around the bush because you've gotten used to politicians' self-serving facile explanation that problems are caused by bad guys and can be fixed by giving power to the good guys (them).
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              • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
                Dude- this is a massive obfuscation: “I don’t know” “Republicans may win in 2022”. blah blah blah.

                If you think this answers the question, you have never functioned in the business world. Maybe we’ll try yes/no, but I lack the incentive. My assumption is superior, when effort is considered.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 11 months ago
    First, Q was a distraction to PREVENT us from mobilizing and taking action. The message should have been "All Politics is local: Build your local groups NOW, and old style TEXT/Phone numbers".

    I just been notified that despite sending FEW emails on my personal account, they have been showing up in SPAM when they mention gaslighting, etc. EVEN THOUGH they have me in their CONTACTS list... Hmmm...

    Next up. MAYBE It's a good thing Trump ISN'T President: The "Do YOU Miss me YET?" Memes will be plentiful...

    Having this crash on a Democrat will almost be worth it.

    But it MUST CRASH!
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    • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 11 months ago
      Stop trading with the enemy and their economy will be crushed. Trade with local small businesses and buy necessities only. Boost the business of your friends and neighbors. Starve the businesses of the enemy.
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    • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
      Hey, Captain Kirk, I may have to demote you for your mischaracterization of Q. They have informed us since their inception in 2017. Mr. Biden is an illegitimate President and is being thwarted by the Pentagon. Trump will be sworn in. Follow this timeline: https://gesara.news/updates.html
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 11 months ago
        You do you...
        But I followed Q for a bit, then I realized Q and the Anons were Guessing, and NOT pushing in the right direction. I've heard Q Stories about JFK Jr. and all kinds of things that were FUN/Entertaining.

        But the ONLY Heads that rolled, the ONLY people who were CONVICTED were all on TRUMPS Team.

        I know, I know... Minor Setback, Hold the line. Our time will come. The Truth is spreading...

        Non-actionable jibberish... A Better message would have been:
        - Build your networks. Build your phone call/texting trees. Know your neighbors.
        - Find out which neighbors have which skills that may help in the future.
        - Have local Meetups to discuss what you can do locally.
        - All Politics are Local, and if you can't win a seat in your race, and you know everyone, MOVE or GET WORKING!

        Things like that, could have had us LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we are now.

        And Trump made ONE Mistake: Hubris. Both for NOT switching to Parler 1-2 years ago, when he could have done something.
        And also in NOT having the CORRUPTED states being Monitored by the DOJ for the election night counting when they would be processing the VERY PAPER BALLOTS he KNEW were coming. (He trusted the courts. LOL. How did that work for America. They have been against him from day 1, check out the Flynn case if you disagree).

        But I don't FAULT Trump. He did incredibly well, but trusted too many BAD people. Follow Cernovich, he called his win, he called his LOSS, and he CALLED OUT his mistakes along the way. Like NOT hiring his supporters for important jobs. And hiring from the deep state!

        This, too, shall pass. The question is whether or not WE LIFT OUR FINGERS to do anything to help fix it, or just vent online to feel better!
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          You are not equipped to handle this evil, nor am I.
          Leave it to the military. FEMA is running everything according to their timing. Plans can be thwarted unpredictably as we are fighting the satanic cabal. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-07N...
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          • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
            You are fast approaching the "nut job" moniker. As others have pointed out, it is unfortunate to have political alignment with crazy people. Very easy to become painted with the same brush.

            By the way, how long is it until the predictions you've made are validated? Then either you or I admit we are wrong... wanna bet what the Las Vegas odds are?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 11 months ago
    I still can't believe Trump ran for office in the first place. I appreciate that he even gave it a go. Like Howard Stern said to him one night down in Mira Lago..."What are you doing?! You're ruining your life!"
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    • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
      FYI, Trump's administration has been a military sting operation. Please do your homework. Read this for enlightenment: https://themarshallreport.wordpress.c...
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 11 months ago
        That doesn't make any sense..."has been a military sting operation". Let's talk in six months...
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          We will be talking much sooner than six months. We will be done in 30 days. Our military tribunals are not like our civil system. There will be justice served immediately. As you probably know, our justice system is very, very slow & very, very unjust, as pointed out to us after the election. By the way, my husband was a Marine. It was the Marines that asked Trump to run and it is they who surround him. We are in very good hands. Follow the timeline of events here: https://gesara.news/updates.html
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      • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
        Shelly, you need to relax, and stop posting. You are going to hurt yourself.
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          I was a transcriptionist for twenty years. It's second nature to write and never stop. Lawyers were very demanding and their greed is what forced me to give up the profession altogether. At least in my various forums I hope I am able to give hope to those who have had their vibration lowered since the inauguration. Thank you for your kind suggestion. I am usually early to bed and early to rise, so I will say goodnight.
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      I see your point. You are right, it might have gone much better if he pushed away and backed a good option (not Pence). However, power and fame are opioids to narcissists.
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  • Posted by lkparkerjr 3 years, 11 months ago
    FoxNews displayed a poll (can we ever believe them again -- FN and polls): 18% Republicans trusted the news media 53% Demoncrats trusted the media. Overall lowest rating for new media down to 46%.
    In a vacuum people are forced to get information from the gossip tree. The gossip tree is 95% inaccurate.
    Not surprising folks trusted the hopeful gossip. Given the lack of trust in tech and the news media, this will continue and ultimately destroy this Republic -- where our trust in each other (not gov't or politicians) has been the glue keeping this country together.
    Our focus needs to be fundamental:
    -- educate our children and grandchildren via 1776 project so they can sort thru the false facts.
    -- focus on destroying the tech and media that advocates for any tribe
    -- demonstrate to our Demoncrat neighbors that we are not the Devil (racists and tyrants) through kind action and soft education
    -- hold to account gov't and institutions that violate our rights via legal and financial (CANCEL) actions. Yes CANCEL culture works in both directions. Does not hurt to call the owner of Jim Bob's auto to tell him/her that his advertising on the FakeNews media will earn him/her a no show on your next car purchase.
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    • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
      Please stop watching mainstream media including Fox News. Follow alternative media with SimonParkes.org or Redpill78 on Bitchute or Rumble. You do not need to lower your vibration. Following the current NESARA/GESARA updates will prove helpful to you: https://gesara.news/updates.html
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 11 months ago
    My parents got wrapped up in all this stuff ... the list that you articulated ... they are in their 70's ... the illusion of belief. I told them: Jesus is not coming to save you, Q is not coming to save you, the Jehovah's Witnesses are not coming to save you, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not coming to save you. This is all an illusion, optics, tail wagging the dog. My parents are old -- they get a Fed pension on behalf of my dad. They are, quite literally, irrelevant... certainly non-essential. Just a cold hard fact. All the Biden exec orders will very likely have no effect on them at all, as they do nothing but eat, sleep, watch tv. As long as the Eagle keeps shitting every month, they are fine. Me, at age 50 and with connections to the Real World, I have a different story. The next decade is going to be very rough.
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    • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
      This will be the best part of your life. Stop the rough times narrative. You and your parents cannot watch Fox News or any mainstream media. It lowers your vibration. Watch SimonParkes.org for updates and join his Connecting Consciousness group.
      We are fighting evil and mainstream media has been a part of it in order to brainwash the unsuspecting masses. They will not succeed. I implore you to STOP watching it. Watch Redpill78 or X22Report on Youtube or Bitchute or Rumble. Keep you vibration high and watch the real news.
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  • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
    For all of those naysayers, please educate yourself. To understand why the Capitol in Washington, DC is under lockdown and what is truly going on read and be of good cheer! https://themarshallreport.wordpress.c...
    Even the blind will see that "The Best is Yet to Come." Semper Fi
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      Ok, chicken little. Print this out, and sign it. We'll be back to talk in a week.
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      • Posted by $ pixelate 3 years, 11 months ago
        I was thinking the exact same thing. It's been a very long time since I was a Jehovah's Witness (ok, I was only 4, but Thank God my parents saw through the silliness of the Church:)
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          FYI, no matter what religion, kindly remember this nation was founded as ONE NATION UNDER GOD, and your mention of thanking GOD is commendable.
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          • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
            You realize that God crap was added by the Eisenhauer administration, right? It has no place in government.
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            • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
              Let me preface my remarks by telling you that it is very hard to win an argument with me. I didn't work in court for twenty years, listening to both sides, to lose, and I will forgive you your ignorance. I think we can agree that it is extremely difficult to change a closed mind. However, I am going to share one more thing so that perhaps you will broaden your mind. I am more well read than you because I embrace everything I can for enlightenment and not for exclusion. Hence, suffice it to know that the spirit of God is in everything. Watch this, if you care to, as your mind seems to be made up on a very all-encompassing subject. https://rumble.com/vd3kcr-1.21.21-our...
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              • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
                If winning an argument with you means you admit that I win, I have no doubt that it is "very hard". just like convincing a religious person they have no evidence, but remain "believing".

                However, an objective person has already made a decision.

                Oh, and I won't be clicking on all the little links you send. Still not convinced you aren't a Chinese bot. If I made a bot to disrupt the US, you would be the mold.
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      • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
        The sky is not falling. The storm is upon us and the military tribunals will be carried out in the Capitol. This is being handled by FEMA. We are in God's hands (those of the military who have taken their oath under God to protect WE THE PEOPLE) As far as your timetable of a week, remember the timing of the military is TOP SECRET and is being handled in a timely fashion, not to allow the swamp to follow their moves. I will give them all the time they need.
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  • Posted by Sorgy 3 years, 11 months ago
    Good news everyone...Trump had to leave to make the plan complete. We are under military law and the world-wide cartel will be going down...I know this is stunning, but start with our new 2nd Declaration of Independence. https://rumble.com/vczvtl-2nd-declara...
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      This is precisely the type of tin-foil-hat noise we do not need. No, we are not under military law. I spoke with the Navy this morning.

      Wake up people! No one is coming to save us. There is no great uprising. Stop thinking like Harry Potter millennials!

      Biden is here. He signed a massive executive order, reversing a pile of what Trump did to get us out of global-borg-socialism. We better get ready to deal with reality, and win in 2022, or these guys are going to walk over our rights like we walk over bugs ... and oh by the way...yes we did land people on the moon.
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      • Posted by Sorgy 3 years, 11 months ago
        I live in Southern California...there are warships all up and down the coast...read the 2nd Declaration. I am not a tinfoil hat guy at all...I would not post this without multiple sources of confirmation. By this weekend you are all free to trash me...or not.
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        • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
          Ok. You know San Diego is a major Navy base. SURF PAC, the senior surface operational three star leads from there.
          Winter Fury, a Marine operation is going on.
          The USN is testing am airborne submarine system (MQ9B), and
          the DDG1000 group is testing USVs

          Accept having an open mind over the weekend, and seeing. Standing by, aye.
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      • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
        Nothing Biden does is legitimate. He is an illegitimate president. The military has thwarted every effort of Mr. Biden and that is what is most important for you to understand. No one is walking over us. Crushing the cabal & deep state is the most difficult job for the military because they have infiltrated every aspect of our lives. Follow the timeline: https://gesara.news/updates.html
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 years, 10 months ago
    We were not created by Trump, we must go on as before, a force unto ourselves for freedom. We existed long before Trump, who proved to be too naive in hiring his people, thus the false narrative of convictions coming. No, we must start again, we did not always have Google, Facebood or then God, Twitter, but we did communicate, and we will. When Obama walked out of teh WH the last time and told supporters outside on camerae wiykd be back, as he did have his "shadow government," red flags should have gome up for sedition, but he spoke to the wind, and no one believed. Well, lest us hope that does not happen again. Biden said they had pulled off the bigest voter fraud in history, as results becgan to come in, again, no one listened to him, impeachemnent worthy, news thought he was rambling ike a snile old man, he was not!
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
    Yes. The conspiracy theories were nonsense. The boring reality was people like me contributing money to Biden's campaign and reminding people to be sure to vote.
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    • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 11 months ago
      Banks colluded to stop doing business with Trump. How does a 70 year old man jeoporduse everything he's built when he has a family he hoped to leave his empire to? There were/are too many facts on the table to shrug it off as conspiracy. Trump acted out of self interest by walking away. Objectivists should be applauding his shrug, no?
      Bidens fraud is visual as DC us on lockdown and fully armed. It was the left burning cities and hurting/intimidating people and never the Trump supporters
      In disappointed to hear that you helped fashion the chains biden is poised to use against us and future generations of Americans (if the nation survives in more than just name)
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      • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 11 months ago
        "Trump acted out of [rational] self interest by walking away." I figure the same.
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          Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 3 years, 11 months ago
          I have to agree. He will walk away with no prosecution now.
          I’ve said before, IF HE actually TRIED to do something AND LOST, they would Romanov him and his family. His other option. Go play golf at Mar-Lago and live the life of a millionaire. And that was guaranteed. Trump has shrugged. Can’t say I blame him. I’m feeling kind of shruggish myself.

          His heart was NEVER in it anyway. When he didn’t “Lock her up”, redacted the JFK files, didn’t pardon Assange or Snowden. He fell into the swamp he said he wanted to drain. It was just another accomplishment. Another “LOOK AT ME” moment.
          That’s why I say don’t go to DC on some damn fool adventure in support of a guy who didn’t have the webos to do it himself. Heck, he threw Pence under the bus to try to fix it all. You were the Damn President Don! All he needed to do was enforce the law this summer in regards to the elections. As far as the “Patriot Party” goes. No thanks. Fool me once... That’ll end up being a honeypot. Just like Parler.

          He did leave us a gift however. We now see that what we’ve suspected all along is true. If your faith in the narratives of the MSM is not DESTROYED now, I don’t know what can be done for you. I guess just take the blue pill. Plug back into the Matrix. And believe whatever you want to believe. Mmmm the steak is good.

          This cannot be fixed at a ballot box. Nor can it be fixed on a battlefield. People need to suffer the consequences before they’ll begin to question the desired narrative. Hunker down. Protect you and yours. Go where you are treated best. Don’t make it burn. Just let it burn.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
        "Banks colluded to stop doing business with Trump."
        I suspect he's nearly broke and not bankable.

        "How does a 70 year old man jeoporduse everything he's built when he has a family he hoped to leave his empire to? "
        He inherited around $400B, lost it all, then made most of that back when he got a break as an actor on reality TV, which with royalties earned him the $400B+ back. Then he lost some of that (we don't know how much) in bad business deals. You don't pay taxes in inheritance (the estate pays), so he never really made significant money and therefore does not owe taxes. He built nothing. His run for presidency was a continuation of the reality TV act. Royalties from that had been dwindling. By a fluke he won, and I suspect he tried to milk it for all the personal gain he could.

        "Trump acted out of self interest by walking away. Objectivists should be applauding his shrug, no?"
        In this absurd scenario, maybe he was the one who recording the conversation with Georgia officials asking for them to find votes that would make him win. It was all part of his act to hide the fact he lost on purpose because he was tired of supporting the world on his shoulders.

        "Biden's fraud is visual as DC us on lockdown and fully armed."
        Trump's supporters have been sharing bizarre conspiracy theories about a civil war and Trump conspiring to become a benevolent dictator. His supporters believed this stuff, broke into the the Capitol and threatened to murder people. Maybe they knew this civil war and military conspiracy theories were crap, so they're surprised that they increased security.
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        • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
          We don’t want Trump at a barbecue. We don’t want Biden at one either. Trump speaks like a buffoon, but his is not an evaluation of who is the best conversationalist or buddy.

          Which one has policies better supporting freedom? Without question, Trump.

          We don’t need two pages of quotes, and a diatribe to discuss this. It is simple. Keep it simple. What policy of Biden’s will offer more freedom than the parallel policy of Trumps?
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
            Trump openly joked about flouting the law, admiring cruelty, and admiring dictators. I know it's a joke. Everything he said could be thought of a joke. He didn't have policies. The hurtfulness and nastiness were the point. He was so disgraceful I can't compare him to a normal person.
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            • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
              Ok, so you hate him. Fine.

              Now, explain more freedom from Biden. If you can’t, you just voted for the pretty person, and compromised our beliefs... personally, I am beginning to doubt your beliefs are consistent with this group, rather you are engaging here for entertainment.
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
                "explain more freedom from Biden."
                I don't think the president increases freedom, so I'm not sure he will. It's similar to my answer about the deficit. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

                "you just voted for the pretty person"
                Partly correct. I think of the president's role as a) administering the government as it is and b) as a figurehead who represents America, a pretty person. I do not think of the president's role as moving the government back toward a more limited role as when the country was founded. On the contrary, the power of the executive branch increases with each president.

                " your beliefs are consistent with this group, "
                Correct. My thoughts are almost the opposite of this group. I like that it has a reference to and Ayn Rand book in the name. I love the Ayn Rand books I've read.

                "you are engaging here for entertainment."
                Yes, but not entertainment just from disagreeing. I really like the four books I read.
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            • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
              I am very disappointed to see such a shallow decision process from you, and a missing defense for the freedom-basis.

              The assertion that he didn't have policies is simply wrong.
              Just in the Dept of Education, his administration pulled government back as fast as could possibly be imagined.
              With foreign policy he forced other countries to begin to carry their weight, where the US had been footing the bill for decades
              With foreign policy he got several countries in the Middle East to recognize Israel
              He pulled us out of the Paris Agreement (you may not like this, but you also refuse to do other than "believe" in it, as we have previously argued).
              He reduced taxes, in particular, the ridiculous AMT
              Unemployment was the lowest in my lifetime.

              All of these increase our freedom.

              - If you just hate him, and had to vote for Biden out of hate and spite, fine, but admit that you prefer spite and hate to freedom.
              - If you actually believe that Biden's admin offers more freedom, defend this position.
              - If you are just silent, I will have to assume as others have, that you are a troll here, which is very disappointing.
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              • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 11 months ago
                Circuitguy can think, but he's more comfortable with stupidity. I've actually forced him to engage and defend his positions on occasion, and he's admitted to failure, at times, also admitting that he feels more comfortable wallowing in the unthinking morass of socialism.
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                • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
                  Well, I'd like to hear his version, in something less than two pages of obfuscation.

                  "Believe" is an approach. It works for the religious, and CG has asserted that is his approach on AGW (although he fails to accept the parallel). However, I have no interest in discussions around "beliefs" and cognitive dissonance.
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                  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 11 months ago
                    For believers like CG, government has become a secular religion, and the war between liberals and conservatives is like the wars between Christians and Muslims. For them, Joe Biden occupying the White House is the equivalent of a Byzantine cathedral being converted to an Ottoman mosque. It becomes a holy issue, and any criticism is considered blasphemy.
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
                The assertion that he didn't have policies is simply wrong.
                "in the Dept of Education, his administration pulled government"
                I am not knowledgeable about this, but it's great if he did.

                "With foreign policy he forced other countries to begin to carry their weight"
                Sort of. I would call this false because we did not see any savings in spending. Spending increased. I’ll give it “sort-of” because he tried to pull the US out of its post-WWII police-force-of-the-world role. The military establishment resisted it because, as I understand it, they see US having a global empire-like presence as responsible for the Long Peace. My impression is he was not good at processing the military leadership’s objections and then finding ways to address them. Instead, I think he kept asking, they said no, he’d lose interest and focus on the how he beat Clinton in ‘16, and then eventually he’d ham-fistedly order troop withdrawals. I am not sure what would have happened if he had been focused and intelligent about it. Maybe there was no way to get the military to agree to withdraw from the world.
                I still give rate this as partially true because he at least brought up the issue of why America is always the police officer, which no president in my lifetime brought up. President Obama once said that part of American exceptionalism is that we have the military power to intervene around the world. I hated that b/c it means close to the opposite to me. President Trump really did raise the issue.

                "He pulled us out of the Paris Agreement”
                Yeah, as I said, I think this is a very bad decision.

                “He reduced taxes, in particular, the ridiculous AMT”
                I give no credit for this because government spending increased. It was just postponing the taxes to future generations and moving them to the hidden form of government debt instruments competing with private-sector investment.
                I will give credit for how the tax cut was structured. It had three goals: a) reduce taxes overall, b) simplify taxes, and c) not too many people should have tax increases because of the simplification. B and C are in conflict, yet the tax cut pulled off all three goals well. If it had come with spending cuts, it would have been great.

                “Unemployment was the lowest in my lifetime.”
                Yes, but it has nothing at all to do with the government or the president.

                “If you just hate him, and had to vote for Biden out of hate and spite, fine, but admit that you prefer spite and hate to freedom.”
                This is utter-nonsense. I never gave any thought of supporting anyone other than President Biden.

                “If you actually believe that Biden's admin offers more freedom, defend this position.”
                I do not. I do not believe the president can do this, except on the edges. By that I mean, if spending and debt grow but at half the rate they would have grown with Trump as president, we could say that offers more freedom, but I consider it insignificant. I don’t see government spending actually decreasing in cost and intrusiveness due to the actions of one person.
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 11 months ago
              Trump didn't have policies? Black and Hispanic employment broke records. So did the overall economy. This is before before the CPP's sneaky germ warfare attack that theysaid was all our fault, of course.
              We became and still are fossil fuel independent. For the moment.
              Now we're drifting back into back into that sad Obamanation land where heating and vehicle fuel costs will soar back to the levels I remember.
              Obama wanted to to take America down a few notches and did. Now it's Quid Pro Quo Joe the voter fraud Thief-In-Chief's turn to degrade the USA.
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                Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
                "Trump didn't have policies? Black and Hispanic employment broke records. So did the overall economy."
                This is correct. The popular view that the president drives the economy is completely false. The economy is people voluntarily serving one another for money. It has almost nothing to do with the president.
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                • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
                  Funny that it didn’t happen before. Must be just correlation, but not causation. You are an expert.
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                    Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
                    "Funny that [record low unemployment] didn’t happen before."
                    It did. There's no correlation or causation. The economy expanded coming out of the recession of 08-09, with unemployment falling, GDP growing, and for reasons I don't understand, no inflation. Debt has nearly tripled. At some point there will be a monetary crisis that will force a balanced budget.
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 11 months ago
                  It also has everything to do with government getting out of the way. Recall Trump specifying that for each new regulation written two old ones had to be removed. As for presidents, recall the economy sputtering with long lines at gas stations under Jimmy Carter and the economy. improving when Reagan was president. I also recall seeing a coal miner cry on TV for all the job-squashing Obama was doing to that industry.
                  I have nothing much good to say about the Royal House of Bush. Sometimes it is more about the president than the party. Read somewhere today that Trump may crank up a "Patriot Party." I was thinking of suggesting a "Freedom Party" in a letter to wherever Trump is in Florida but "Patriot" works for me. The trouble with the GOP is that it's infested with too many Deep State RINOs. Me dino sez back up the real freedom fighters with new patriotic blood.
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        • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
          You have not done your homework. Please read the following report so you can inform other naysayers: https://themarshallreport.wordpress.c...
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            Posted by CircuitGuy 3 years, 11 months ago
            From the blog: "It is a genius move. God is in charge of this nation and is now leading his elect to restore this great nation called by his name."
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            • Posted by shellgardens 3 years, 11 months ago
              Indeed, this is a war of good vs. evil. Please watch the following important intel sent today and share it with your network of friends so that they will not feel so despondent. It is difficult for our military to drain the swamp because it has infiltrated every aspect of our lives. Everyone needs to hear the truth even if it is difficult to accept. Simon Parkes is a healer of people's consciousness when they have been brainwashed by the cabal. Unfortunately, most Americans have been brainwashed by the mainstream media. Stop watching it if you still do because it will lower your vibration. Learn to mediate. Have a pleasant week.
              https://www.simonparkes.org/post/21st...
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    • Posted by $ 3 years, 11 months ago
      Not sure how you support Biden's policies over Trumps, but choose to participate in a site supporting capitalism and freedom. Recall you supported Hillary too, and it seems similarly in conflict...unless of course, you are just a objecting (vs Objectivist) observer.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 11 months ago
        CG supported Hitlery and O before.
        A disinformation device in the Gulch. Hasn't supported free markets or individual liberty since arriving.
        The real nonsense is what the left proposes and it will result in their economic and political demise. Too bad so many innocents will die as in every socialist scheme.
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