An Angry Repressive idiology created by Angry, repressive unhappy People.

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September 30, 2020
Why Marxist Utopian Dreams Always Fail
By Annie Holmquist
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SOURCE URL: https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/why-marxist-utopian-dreams-always-fail-/


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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 years ago
    "...created by Angry, repressive unhappy People." One needs to look no further than the ideology's main creator/proponents:

    Karl Marx - a miserable drunken ne'er do well who hated actually working for a living. He was a moocher and con man who's only skill was flowery academic language skills used to fool anyone who would listen to his drivel. The closest he could ever get to being happy was finding a sugar daddy to pay his way through life.

    Friedrich Engels - a self-loathing spoiled rich kid control freak definitely messed up in the head. His greatest need was to find someone - anyone - that could make him feel good about himself.

    The partnership made in hell - the con man moocher and the hating rich kid. They'd never be happy and anyone captured by their spew wouldn't be happy either.

    So, there you have it in the nutshell.
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  • Posted by $ Commander 4 years, 2 months ago
    These folks want to be free as an absolute.
    Liberty requires an awareness and understanding of personal responsibility.
    Dale Halling and I had quite a go-round over this years past.

    Miss his and Kalli's presence....with very fond memories.
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    • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago
      I think that is correct. Post modernism itself is devoid of personal responsibility.
      20% of the culture wants to be: "What ever they will"...at any given moment...without consequence.

      I know of no dimension in space where that possibility exists.
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      • Posted by $ Commander 4 years, 2 months ago
        Is not "20% of the culture....consequence" the definitive of Liberalism?
        This is an interesting honors thesis from a youngster at Eastern Kentucky U, Arthur Martin. https://encompass.eku.edu/honors_thes...
        "Liberalism was doomed from its inception as all ideologies are.
        The question to ask then is, why is it the case that ideologies will fail? According to Deneen, Liberalism is not the only modern political ideology. Fascism and Communism are the other failed modern ideologies. The root failure of ideology is its philosophical anthropology. Ideologies are based on falsehoods about human nature, and anything based upon a lie is doomed to failure. Due to the falseness of their premises, ideologies are ultimately incapable of keeping their promises. While an ideology may be initially successful, as time progresses, the gap between the claims of ideology about lived human experience and the actual lived experience of human persons widens, and the regime instituted by the ideology loses legitimacy.3 When an ideology comes to that crucial breaking point, it has two options, “Either it enforces conformity to a lie it struggles to defend, or it collapses when the gap between claim and reality, finally result in wholesale loss of belief among the populace."
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  • Posted by stk2urgns 4 years ago
    Great article! Thanks for sharing. I'm all for standing on my own reasoning, but it's nice to find someone else out there who came to the same conclusions as I did about our cultural divide. To me, it seems like that emptiness in people that the author refers to has grown more common in recent years. I've heard a couple of older adults (I call them "older" because I'm 23 which is supposedly an adult age, but these people have seen a lot more of life than I have b/c they've lived longer than me--that's why age matters) saying maybe that emptiness comes from the fact that we got rid of religion at some point. If someone wanted to put up the argument that a lot of bad things have been done to people in the name of religion, I'd agree with them. But I think that by doing away with religion entirely, we "threw out the baby with the bathwater," as a teacher of mine liked to say. He used that phrase in reference to doing away with western civ, but I think it applies to religion too. Sure I don't think a religion should be used to divide people into cliques or coerce people into doing things. But I think we could've thrown out the bad actors while preserving the basic values and beliefs worth keeping. We could've found a middle ground that gave us the meaning, ideas, stories, and sense of safety we all crave. Instead people apparently tried to fill that hole with government and politics. The hole-filling scheme was pointed out to me (and the rest of the class, I'm not special or something) by the aforementioned teacher--that part specifically I didn't come up with on my own. When I look at my peers (and the internet), it seems to me like we look to a strong central government for safety (Marxism/Communism doesn't work without that codependence in the culture), and political messages for meaning/depth. I've seen it in the way some people get a little scared at the thought of cutting government services, and the way they perceive differing political opinions as immoral. Maybe those feelings are what enable people to do what they've been doing this year (2020). But hang on, aren't the vindictiveness and coercion perpetrated in the name of religion exactly what those involved with the cultural shift away from religion (and also the shift we see today) were trying to avoid? If so, why do they seem to be turning into what they wanted to get rid of? Doesn't that sound familiar?

    Sorry this was so long, and that I chose to keep it the length that it is. I guess I'm prioritizing a desire to share thoughts over the thought that I should leave people alone.
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    • Posted by $ 4 years ago
      Thanks for the Thought Filled reply. Religion- the organization of the teachings of Christianity is a problem...not the teachings itself. Those teachings give "Conscious" man (humans) a moral and ethical guide to living in mutuality with one another, not to mention, keeping us humble by realizing that there is a much bigger picture we live in.
      In short, no matter what we do or create, we are working within a biological/physical/quantum system we took no part in creating...in other words, getting too big for our pants usually bites us in the ass. Laughing.

      I'm saying that in-between those two points, (the beginning and the end,)... "the sky's the limit", (another ole saying), which will likely keep us busy and creative for eternity.

      I explain that in contrast to my work, discussing those that cannot, will not, could never be conscious, have a proper conscience and have no mutuality with mankind as a whole...I call them: Parasitical Humanoids and they have plagued our path forward since, just after the beginning, what ever that was..
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      • Posted by stk2urgns 4 years ago
        Thank you too for your thoughts. I've been looking for those teachings that give us a moral and ethical guide on how we should live our life, like you mentioned. And your joke was funny :) Humility is important, you're right. The trick is finding a balance between humility and also a healthy belief in yourself. That's just one of many balances to find--like you said, this will keep us entertained for a long long time.

        I'm curious about the parasitical humanoids, and whether there's a point past which they can't return, in regards to their world-view. In a general sense, I haven't figured out how I'd address the problems their emptiness creates. And in a more concrete sense, I also don't know what I'd do if I were to run into one on the street (I'm thinking antifa) and accidentally out myself as....I'm not really sure. Whatever they don't like.
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        • Posted by $ 4 years ago
          It's hopeless if one cannot achieve access to the mind from what I can tell. One of the indications is psychopathy, coupled with extreme hubris cuts off all chances to gain introspection. There is no conscience and there is no cure for that; but I think for some, the worst of the worst, it's more than that. It's a genetic trait and the only connection in history I can find are the Nephilm/human hybrids...(Think Nimrod. Many of the global delete class trace their ancestry back to him.)

          Introspection is achieved when both sides of our bicameral brains cooperate. For the creatures we are looking at, it seems, like many leftest and psychopaths, use only 1/2 the brain. Our old testament biblical ancestors were similar in that respect but only in the sense that they were not aware of their own awareness nor the voice of self; thought of as the voice of others: gods, rulers or ancestors. The only thing that kept them from the abyss was their fear of unseen forces. That changed for a small section of the population about 2500 to 5000 years ago; (think the Greek Civilization). To this day, only about 50% worlds population attained some respects of self introspection. Still, the majority of others have the possibility to gain that awareness but to date have not.
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          • Posted by stk2urgns 4 years ago
            Maybe it's hubris, maybe it's self-hatred/insecurity masked as pride. I think it could go both ways, as long as it's one of the extremes. Either way, it doesn't sound fun :( Maybe some will hit rock bottom and then figure it out?

            And about your 50% ratio, it's a shame that self-awareness/introspection isn't mentioned much in schools today. Math, science, history, art and all that are important, but so is learning how to think critically. I've seen a lot of teachers tell students on the 1st day of the semester we need to develop critical thinking skills, and then never give us any examples of critical thinking during the semester. And surprise surprise, students' responses to questions in class don't get increasingly thoughtful throughout the year, mine included.
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            • Posted by $ 4 years ago
              Your "Mind's Eye View" Will widen here my friend. I call the concept in my book, Wide Scope Accountability...not my invention but I was the one that gave it a proper definition.
              All those subjects you mention have customarily only required compartmentalized information...had schools, at an early age, taught students what all that compartmentalized information means to them and the big picture, students would become integrated. More than likely, that integration would combine all those subject areas...this is what the "Mind" does, it integrates. The Brain can only compartmentalize.

              I have a little ditty where I use an English Grammar phrase to demonstrate what true full integration looks like: Remember, Me, Myself and I ?...Me is the brain inside the body of myself, made whole, conscious and connected by the "I" and/or the Mind.
              "I" in this context means, a cosmic or quantum sovereign entity with a unique identity.

              You see, I theorize that we are made of the very quantum fields we physically exist in...therefore, our individual Minds are intertwined with these fields just outside our heads, our bodies...it's the only way one could achieve Self Inspection, a view of self...from outside the body. So far, science has not identified anything in your head that can view or judge itself.

              Also...where could "Insights" come from?,... thoughts, theories, knowledge one has no academic right or foreknowledge of...can we say...wave transfers between entangled particles?...Science does say that wave transfers Are the transfer of information, does it not?
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              • Posted by stk2urgns 4 years ago
                I cant opine on your quantum fields theory since I'm no physics expert. But I agree with you about relating together all the things you learn in life--it's such a valuable skill. In many circumstances, the ability to relate 2 separate things you learn or hear is what creates the difference between just rote memorization and actually learning something. It's a lost skill!!
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  • Posted by $ 4 years, 2 months ago
    "Oftentimes, it is the very things that progressive Marxists rail against that offer a way out of the depression and unhappiness they are trying to overcome. "
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