I think people like him make social media dangerous. He sounds so sincere, but not one word of what he said has been backed with facts: Even the story where we were supplying weapons through our Libyan Embassy. Oh, sure. I can go find half a dozen stories from online sites that seem reasonable in their reporting that will mirror what this man has said, but they all have one thing in common: lack of evidence. This is how really crazy conspiracy groups like 9’11 truthers get started.
So what do I think of this story? Not bad for a conspiracy theory,but not much more value than that either.
If the 9-11 report was "backed with facts" then the engineers wouldn't be demanding a real investigation. The same thing happened when Pearl Harbor was attacked 12/7/41. Big coverup of the administration's advance knowledge of the attack and orders to the military to ignore the evidence, facts now never included in the history of the time. I remember my grandfather telling me all about it when I was a kid. That history lesson didn't sink in until much later. Read Stinnett's book Day of Deceit. "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." G Santayana That's why contolling the history being taught is so important. (I agree that any serious blogger needs to support his argument with facts; otherwise it's just an opinion.)
blarman posted about this a few months ago, with Allen West telling the same story: http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/posts/7e... West's "evidence" was a report from someone who was involved. I'm curious about what evidence would satisfy you in this case. If you require an official government acknowledgment, that may never come.
I don't see this current admin as being smart enough to do this intentionally. Perhaps the CIA would do this independently, but I doubt that the O admin thought this up.
I think the most important thing about this presentation is that it is NEWS. How many of you despair at reading the news (even Fox or Drudge) and finding grey pap instead of facts, reports, controversy? This video is what news should be, whether or not I agree with it: a convincingly portrayed argument that relates the history of an area with its current actions.
I know more about science than politics (as y'all have no doubt noticed) and I despair at the science reporting on the news, which sometimes presents decades old discoveries as 'new finds' to fill up space. There's tons of actual science news - every day. How can I believe the political news when I can compare it to the touchstone of science news?
What needs to be encouraged, I think, is this sort of individualistic reporting - the sort that incites comment, disagreement, and a search for facts.
Nicely stated. I tend to take it as "news" embedded in "a point of view" aka "editorial". I often wish the "lame stream media" could make this distinction.
The Obama Regime is responsible for ISIS because of it's manipulative foreign policy, which is as ephemeral as Marley's ghost. Through inaction, broadcasting intention and lack of support for Israel it has telegraphed to Jihadists that the Middle East is open season for terrorists.In that sense, Foley can be laid at the Obama doorstep. Even more disturbing, is the utter lack of empathy by the President, who went out playing golf immediately after his speech condemning ISIS. This has been demonstrated so often that it appears as if he became the President in order to improve his golf game.
Even a police officer "seeking whom the crime would profit" must show (a) a crime happened and (b) his prime suspect committed it.
I've heard suggestions elsewhere that Ambassador Stevens was involved in gun-running out of Libya. Suggestions from people I trust.
I wouldn't put it past Obama to build up an outfit like the Islamic State. But I would not suspect him of building a phantom external enemy. I would suspect him as the *agent* of that external enemy.
The notion that "we have no external enemies except those we make" is facile at least. The Koran has plenty in it to convince any skeptic that anyone who sticks to it, would want to kill everyone who doesn't stick. Or is this blogger going to suggest the CIA has a back-step time machine so they could back-time a team of literary forgers to salt the Koran and the Hadiths with incriminating passages?
Nobody wants to hear the truth when it shows that your government has been committing evil.
We armed and paid the people that joined together to become ISIS just like we directly created Al Qaeda during Russia's occupation of Afghanistan. The phrase Al Qaeda was even coined by our government.
This man didn't tell me anything that I hadn't already heard but I wish that at least 20% of our population would watch it.
His premise is contemptible. Obama and the USA chose to ally with the rebels in Syria. I don't agree with feeding Islam in ANY way. Tough for me. Ally, does NOT mean buddy. International relations change.
Is a gun seller now a murderer if the gun buyer kills a bunch of people? However contemptible the choices the gun seller made in choosing who to sell to, Obama and the US did NOT sell or give weapons to kill Jim Foley.
Calling us or Obama a murderer on that count is contemptible and a lie.
Nobody's commented on how all those terrible, intolerable dictators "supported" by the Bush administration... Mubarak, Gaddafi, Assad... were keeping the lid on their pieces of the middle east.
I would not mind discussing "theory" with this dude, who is definitely not an Obama supporter. I see where I can hang a hat or coat should I come over for a visit. Hope he has some beer in his fridge.
i think there's some truth in his idea of the gathering of weapons from Libya. Those were weapons we had funneled to the rebels there that were being bought back through the Bengazi facility and then routed through Turkey to Syria to support that overthrow.
Whether it's all as neatly tied together as the teller relates is another story, but I firmly believe that our hands are in the mix in some way.
This is how really crazy conspiracy groups like 9’11 truthers get started.
So what do I think of this story? Not bad for a conspiracy theory,but not much more value than that either.
The same thing happened when Pearl Harbor was attacked 12/7/41. Big coverup of the administration's advance knowledge of the attack and orders to the military to ignore the evidence, facts now never included in the history of the time. I remember my grandfather telling me all about it when I was a kid. That history lesson didn't sink in until much later. Read Stinnett's book Day of Deceit.
"Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it." G Santayana
That's why contolling the history being taught is so important.
(I agree that any serious blogger needs to support his argument with facts; otherwise it's just an opinion.)
I know more about science than politics (as y'all have no doubt noticed) and I despair at the science reporting on the news, which sometimes presents decades old discoveries as 'new finds' to fill up space. There's tons of actual science news - every day. How can I believe the political news when I can compare it to the touchstone of science news?
What needs to be encouraged, I think, is this sort of individualistic reporting - the sort that incites comment, disagreement, and a search for facts.
Jan
Jan
I've heard suggestions elsewhere that Ambassador Stevens was involved in gun-running out of Libya. Suggestions from people I trust.
I wouldn't put it past Obama to build up an outfit like the Islamic State. But I would not suspect him of building a phantom external enemy. I would suspect him as the *agent* of that external enemy.
The notion that "we have no external enemies except those we make" is facile at least. The Koran has plenty in it to convince any skeptic that anyone who sticks to it, would want to kill everyone who doesn't stick. Or is this blogger going to suggest the CIA has a back-step time machine so they could back-time a team of literary forgers to salt the Koran and the Hadiths with incriminating passages?
We armed and paid the people that joined together to become ISIS just like we directly created Al Qaeda during Russia's occupation of Afghanistan. The phrase Al Qaeda was even coined by our government.
This man didn't tell me anything that I hadn't already heard but I wish that at least 20% of our population would watch it.
Obama and the USA chose to ally with the rebels in Syria. I don't agree with feeding Islam in ANY way. Tough for me.
Ally, does NOT mean buddy. International relations change.
Is a gun seller now a murderer if the gun buyer kills a bunch of people? However contemptible the choices the gun seller made in choosing who to sell to, Obama and the US did NOT sell or give weapons to kill Jim Foley.
Calling us or Obama a murderer on that count is contemptible and a lie.
Whether it's all as neatly tied together as the teller relates is another story, but I firmly believe that our hands are in the mix in some way.
A perfect example of being articulate doesn't make anyone right. No proof, simply an opinion dressed up as if it were fact.
No question about the fact that the Obama administration is incompetent and their motives can certainly be questioned.
Fred Speckmann
commonsensefromaericans@yahoo.com