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  • Posted by Eyecu2 5 years, 7 months ago
    I believe that Comey would have committed Suicide (by shooting himself in the back of hte head 5 or 6 times) just before anything actually happened.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 7 months ago
      We think pretty much alike. I imagined a sales receipt found near his body would indicate he (the slip just indicating a smelly Walmart customer) had just bought a set of steak knives that he evidently dropped as he fell down to get all those knives stuck in his back.
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  • Posted by mminnick 5 years, 7 months ago
    Bernie Sanders would have been Democrat Nominee
    2. Trump would have won both popular and electoral vote
    3. We would not have had 2.5 years of Democrat and MSM Hysteria about Russian Collusion
    4. Comey would still be head of the FBI

    These are my fearless predictions. Obviously no one can really tell what whould have happened.
    Love to hear others predictions.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 7 months ago
      I thought of that, but I'm not so sure Hillary would have conceded her position as the nominee. The DNC was terrified of Sanders as the Democrat candidate, sure he would lose, and might have stood by Hillary.

      If that happened, and she wound up being convicted after winning the election, we might be looking at President Tim Kaine now.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 7 months ago
        Kaine’t imagine how depressing things would be if Donald J Trump was not our President. As far as predictions go looking in the past is 2020.
        Past will prove present. #45 has been attacked and ambushed and has had the Armor coat of the military who has stymied assasination attempts.
        He has been on the defense now it’s time to counter punch. I expect we will soon see the systematic take down of the traitors(way too many
        To list )
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      • Posted by mminnick 5 years, 7 months ago
        Party rules and the political elite would have forced her out. Willingness on her part would not be a consideration. If indicted there was no way should could have won.
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      • Posted by exceller 5 years, 7 months ago
        Had Comey continued to be consistent, as it looked for the first 3/4 part of his speech one week before the election and submitted his recommendation for prosecution (which was not his job but that of Lynch, but considering the irregularities of the time Comey could have done that), Clinton would have been the subject of criminal prosecution. Lynch may not have let it proceed since she considered the Clinton case a "matter", nevertheless the hanging of a criminal indictment over her head would not have helped her win.

        Time was very short: Comey did this a week before the elections and by that time the DNC booted Sanders out of contention.

        So Trump would have won either way but we probably would have been spared of the Mueller probe since the chaos was a result of the Dem's incompetence.

        No surprise there.
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    • Posted by $ Sgtill 5 years, 7 months ago
      Maybe, maybe not!? Hardcore Bernie voters abandoned the democratic party and Hillary over his blocked nomination. Odds are good, had Bernie won the nomination, hardcore Hillary feminist voters would have abandoned Bernie and the democratic party and still gone with someone like Jill Stein. It's probable that any other democratic nominee would have worked the states far differently than Hillary's arrogant approach, and that my have given the election a different outcome!? But it is fairly certain that Russian meddling would have taken place regardless of who won either of the parties nominations. Under a Trump win we still have democRats rioting looting and blocking the right of others. Democrats would Probably still be doing Putin's dirty work of undermining our system of government. It's a good bet that, one way or another, President Trump would still be considered a fascist, aa tyrant and Hitler in the eyes of todays liberal fascist democratic party.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 7 months ago
    If Comey had done his job, he wouldn't have:

    - allowed several Clinton Aides to be granted immunity prior to deposing them
    - allowed those same Aides to be present during the depositions of other Aides and even Hillary Clinton herself
    - read into the statute/law an intent provision so as to justify a non-indictment
    - signed the FISA warrant authorizing spying on Carter Page and the Trump campaign
    - disclosed confidential data to a professor friend intending it get leaked to the public
    - disgraced the office of Head of the FBI

    Comey's pension should be revoked, he should be disbarred permanently, and he should be tried for treason.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 7 months ago
    Hillary would be in jail. The election in 2016 would have gone to Trump as it did. We would have saved two years of stupid russia investigation
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  • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 7 months ago
    I don't think anything would have changed. The Russian Hoax was already brewing and would have still happened no matter what happened to Hillary. Once it started it took on a life of its own. Just my opinion.
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  • Posted by Solver 5 years, 7 months ago
    Hillary would’ve become a martyr. More absolute proof to the loud angry entitled juveniles everywhere that the world is like so unfair.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 5 years, 7 months ago
    Comey didn't have authority to indict anyone. He could make a recommendation to indict, but the DOJ would have declined to do so. Then Comey would have been forced to resign amidst non-stop ridicule by the leftist press and a lefty mob beseiging his house and office.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 years, 7 months ago
    We would not have all the far left liberals in office. Comey was told to stand down by Lynch on indicting Hillary, however. Then, he came back, having looked at Weiner's laptop, weeks after having it, found a photo of Hillary with Huma, and an underage girl in a compromising situation, and wanted again to charge her with being with a minor, but again was told tol stand down. Maybe, had he indicted her, Trey Gowdy might have had some takers on dismantling the DC Congressional pedophile ring. As it stands they still make millions farming out children as sex toys Who gets the money? Has anyone paid tax in the numerous years it has been in existence, prior to Bush Sr.?
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  • Posted by NealS 5 years, 7 months ago
    Depends on how far before the 2016 election. Perhaps Trump wouldn't have even run. He only ran to spite the naysayers and Hillary was one of the biggest. Things actually could have been much worse, just think of all the graft, greed, and nonsense that Trump brought to light. Should we not actually thank Comey, and/or Hillary publicly for forcing Trump to run in the first place? Or did he know he was going to run and just playing a game for a while? I always think about the Trump / Rona Barrett Interview from 1980, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ7ib... Perhaps this is an entirely new subject.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 5 years, 7 months ago
    Hillary's large donors effectively bought her the nomination by demanding and getting "superdelegates" pledged to her. Thus any change in the nominee would have required their, or her, approval and would be unlikely to happen unless she were convicted of a felony (and thus rendered ineligible) in time for someone else's name to be printed on the general election ballots. I don't see a how a trial could even have begun by election day.

    Now, if some event had removed her from the running early in the primary season or even before it? Then I would expect to see either Sanders or Warren as the nominee. Sanders, at least, would have done better than Hillary did because many of us were much more anti-Hillary than pro-Trump. Does he beat Trump? I still give Trump the edge but it would be much closer.

    Incidentally, I don't give Sanders a chance if he runs in 2020. We all know more about both him and Trump, which is good for Trump. Even though he hasn't built the wall yet, he's gotten us a good economy.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 7 months ago
    This is just an example of how politicians talk about their opponents being indicted on some technicality rather than talking about issues.

    I think people who follow this closer overstate how many are fooled by this and really believe the other politician is a criminal. I suspect, although I don't have survey evidence, that there's a silent majority would never fall for this.
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    • Posted by 5 years, 7 months ago
      Comey "reimagined" the law in dealing with Hillary. I've worked in numerous highly classified jobs, and was even a security official. I've seen people lose their clearance, forced to retire early, and some convicted and served time for careless handling of classified material. None that I saw punished had any intent to make classified information available to the enemy.

      Hillary was indeed demonstrating "gross negligence" (the official term that Comey avoided) of the worst sort, putting special access material on an unclassified server. The NSA confirmed that at least six foreign agencies hacked that server, thanks to her disregard for protecting the material.

      Some would say she was just preoccupied with her job as Secretary of State, but the State Department had protected servers for her use, so why did she deliberately set up a private server? Paranoid, maybe? What made things worse was that after she realized Comey was investigating her, she had her staff destroy her laptops and cell phones, which is clear obstruction of justice.

      I realize there are political machinations that imply crime where none actually exists, as Mueller exposed, but the facts of what Hillary Clinton did are clear. The political machinations in this case were to protect a candidate who, it was hoped, would continue the Obama policies.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 7 months ago
      I know you're a Democrat and that its hard to admit when your favored political party supports corruption, but in the Hillary case, it was as clear as day. Comey let Hillary Clinton off because he read into the statute an intent provision which did not exist. Putting classified materials on a private server was a clear and blatant violation of several laws - and the obstruction she committed in wiping the server and destroying personal devices to hide these violations was also cut and dried. The ONLY way Hillary wasn't indicted, tried, and convicted was because her exoneration memo had already been drafted before the investigation had concluded.

      Wait for the IG report on the mishandling of the investigation. It will prove to be instructional to say the least.
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        Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 7 months ago
        "Putting classified materials on a private server was a clear and blatant violation of several laws"
        I see this as an IT technicality. I suspect she had no idea where here files were stored. I don't care about these technicalities, regardless of party.
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        • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 7 months ago
          The law doesn't care about IT technicalities - and she directed the installation of the server. She knew what she was doing and she knew it was wrong. Remember, she had a White House email and staff while serving as First Lady. She was familiar with security protocols but deemed herself above them because she wanted to hide some of her pay-for-play from the public FOIA laws. There is simply zero justification for what she did.
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        • Posted by 5 years, 7 months ago
          Emphatic NO to that. It's been proven she did not use the State server system, and had her own staff set up a private server. There's also no record of her taking the required security briefing, which included all the cautions against what she did. Deliberate ignorance does not excuse "gross negligence."

          It's obvious that you haven't worked in a classified environment, so let me give you an analogy: Suppose you were working in an environment with hazardous materials that had the capability of a deadly explosion. You don't take the course in safety precautions, make mistakes, and another person, or persons end up with serious injuries because you didn't follow instructions. Wouldn't you be held at fault, even if you didn't intend to hurt those who suffered as a result of your negligent behavior?

          The State Department classified files contain important diplomatic agreements naming key people, some of whom are also connected to our intelligence agencies. What Hillary did was leave exposed files that could have resulted in some of those key persons being assassinated, or cause a conflict to start. That is not an "IT error."
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    Posted by PeterSmith 5 years, 7 months ago
    Bernie Sanders would be president.
    Given how awful and left wing the Trump administration has been, it's hard to say if that would've been a worse outcome than what we have today.
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    • Posted by hawk1776 5 years, 7 months ago
      I disagree. People on the right were way more ticked by big government than anybody else. Also, this administration, to me, has been a definite reprieve from politics as usual. There are a few things I don't agree with but it's been certainly better than anything Bernie could've put up and folks were and are tired of establishment politics.
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        Posted by PeterSmith 5 years, 7 months ago
        I'm not sure who these "people on the right" are that you're referring to, but I hope it's not the religious leftists of today's conservative movement.
        Also, what part of big government has been shrunk by Trump?
        The Trump administration has failed to repeal Obamacare, passed trillion dollar spending bills, is currently apparently negotiating with Democrats to pass even bigger infrastructure spending bills, are regulating trade and immigration beyond anything we've seen for a long time.
        Not to mention the most appalling appeasement of the worst regimes on the planet we've ever seen. I mean, even Obama wasn't hopeless enough to prostrate himself before Kim Jon.
        This is basically a third Obama term in every respect, except far more appeasing of America's enemies and even MORE left wing in areas like immigration and trade.
        Sad that these very obvious and important points are being so heavily down voted here, but oh well.
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        • Posted by RevJay4 5 years, 6 months ago
          TDS much, Peter?
          You do remember the stimulus packages which stimulated 0zero's buds bank accounts with not much in the way of results. Don't you?
          The ten trillion increase in debt during the 0zero admin?
          Etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum.
          And you do know that Bernie is at the very least a socialist, right? You do understand that socialism is what Cuba and Venezuela are suffering under, right?
          Suggest you study a bit on the socialist/communist systems of governing prior to your next post.
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          • Posted by PeterSmith 5 years, 6 months ago
            If you didn't read my post, why are you responding?
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            • Posted by RevJay4 5 years, 6 months ago
              I did read your post. Don't agree with it. Which should be apparent from my comments.
              What you see as "appeasement", I see as taking a different approach to settling the potentially deadly situation with some of the world's worst regimes.
              The trade thing is just an attempt at levelling the playing field, so the US didn't come out on the losing end, again. Trade deficits ring a bell?
              Immigration is not the problem. ILLEGAL immigration is the problem. Inherited from the previous administrations. The laws on the books are also leftovers from the 0zero days.
              Nothing "left wing" about the Trump administration. Because you think it is, does not make it so.
              Wait a minute, isn't that one of the "Rules for Radicals"? Say something over and over again, until it becomes believable. Or something like that.
              How's that economy working for ya? Sad that ya can't, or won't, see the good Trump has done since he was elected. With no to little help from the swamp creatures.
              You really do need to have that TDS checked out. It sounds serious. Good luck, Peter.
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