Galt's Gulch

What has been the impact of the shut down on you personally?

Posted by preimert1 5 years, 10 months ago to Government
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The government has been "shut down" for over a week now and I have not suffered any inconvenience. Do you suppose the "nonessential personnel" really are nonessential? Have any gulchers noticed any disruption in their personal lives?

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  • Posted by Rex_Little 5 years, 10 months ago
    I don't know the details, but there must be several agencies whose function it is to grant permission for things you're not allowed to do until you get their permission. If those are shut down, the permission seekers certainly would be affected.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 5 years, 10 months ago
    I just have a warm feeling from the knowledge that some of my overlords are experiencing some inconvenience for once. If they don't like it I suggest they go get a real job.
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    • Posted by rtpetrick 5 years, 10 months ago
      Instead of a real job, perhaps they should solve the border wall funding/shut down problem that they created. Doing nothing always has unintended consequences......
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      • Posted by evlwhtguy 5 years, 10 months ago
        I suspect that the people who are most negativity affected are the Federal worker bees....not congressmen. I guarantee the members of congress aren't missing any paychecks. Their exercise room, underground railroad, the house post office, exclusive dining rooms and other perks are all working just fine. All of that should shut down. They should have to send interns to MacDonald's just to get coffee!!! They ought to turn the frigging heat off in the capitol building.....but no such luck, that will never happen.
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        • Posted by $ pixelate 5 years, 10 months ago
          Indeed ... I smile at the notion of implementing your ideas. Someone, somewhere, must determine which personnel and positions are essential.

          In other news, I finally just figured out your moniker.
          Turning off the heat . . . well, you must be a special kind of evil.
          Cheers!
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          • Posted by evlwhtguy 5 years, 10 months ago
            Yes I adopted that moniker because just by virtue of being born as a white male I am somehow evil. It's almost like Original Sin! Nothing I can do can change it so I may as well embrace it. My wife and overhearing me dictate this suggest that I should try identifying as an African-American maybe that would work. I mean it works for men who want to go in the ladies room and peek at the girls. I guess identifying as an African American is a great idea but I'm thinking it wouldn't work, old evil white guys like me just never get a pass.

            If you have ever seen the original Buford Pusser, Walking Tall movie you will see my. Idea in action. Buford Pusser was a sheriff in a rural Tennessee county that was run by moonshiners in the 60s and early 70s . He had a judge who was leaking information about his search warrants to Moonshiners, so old Buford checked with the law books and found out that he was in charge of deciding where the office space was for the judge. So he had the judges desk and Furnishings all moved to a basement men's room in the courthouse. Well the judge wasn't going for that and made a big fuss about it but it didn't do him any good I think he eventually retired. This is supposedly an actual true story.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 years, 10 months ago
    Me an old dino hardly thinks about it. As long as my pension and SS payments keep being electronically wired into my checking account I'm happy.
    Right now I'm far more concerned about a health issue I'm beating and wondering what I owe after my health insurance takes care of business. Glad I don't have that Obamanation Care.
    The only thing that would upset me is the Tangerine Tornado backing down from building that wall, steel slat fence or whatever. Pretty sure that he will never do.
    Last night I heard Hannity say that in about 90 days the public will be viewing efforts to Impeach Trump for looking like it's run by idiots.
    Hope he is right.
    Hope so. Me dino likes to laugh at all the pathetic donkey brains in the Jackass Party.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 years, 10 months ago
    Zero impact. I like the idea the government is shut down, for a while, we have less of it. We all know the wage slaves will be paid in full, just a vacation along the way, but I would like to see a lot of them gone, permanently.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 5 years, 10 months ago
    I suspect that if the shutdown continues into April, I might not be able to schedule a visit to the John Adams Family Farm in Quincy, Mass., as soon as I might like. That happens to be a National Park, and subject to the shutdown.

    As I understand it, Charles Francis Adams basically gave the land up to the government. That was a mistake. A lot of other U.S. Presidential homes are under private maintenance, so the shutdown doesn't affect them. They include without limitation: Mount Vernon, Monticello, James K. Polk's residence in Columbia, Tenn., and Andrew Jackson's Hermitage.

    This could be a bang-up opportunity to encourage voluntary educational charities to buy some of these shrines away from the National Park Service so that this sort of silly business never affects them again. That would be what they get out of it. What we get out of it, is additional privatization of that which the government should never have arrogated to itself.
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  • Posted by GaryL 5 years, 10 months ago
    Shut down, what shut down?
    All the folks affected by this phony shut down should be in DC carrying signs saying "NO WALL-NO WORK" and enjoying their paid vacation.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 5 years, 10 months ago
    Be nice now. We probably really need 6,000 people working at DHHS and 30,000 at the IRS! Now you guys behave yourselves. But actually since you asked? No impact at all.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 5 years, 10 months ago
    Not much. Even though I have been on Social Security, I have still been able to get it. But then, I get it the third Wednesday of the month; but I think the shutdown occurred before that time last month.--Of course, what I want is a job, but that was also true before.
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  • Posted by KRUEG 5 years, 10 months ago
    MY IMPACT = NONE! Only wish that I was physically able to assist in cleanup, etc...
    The "WALL", "FENCE", "CONCRETE BARRIER" must be built. I support what POTUS is doing!!
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  • Posted by gerstj 5 years, 10 months ago
    So far, absolutely zero impact. Don't care about any delayed IRS refunds, can't fire before mid March anyway, but am interested in the comments that taxpayers won't be able to file at all without updated forms or efile forms, however,
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 10 months ago
    Ha, I get to go to Lake Mead here in Nevada without being taxed at the gate for something taxpayers already payed for (Hoover Dam). I say shut down the Park Service budget, at least for Lake Mead, and people can bring out their own trash like they did before.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 5 years, 10 months ago
    "The IRS is not issuing refunds, updating tax forms or answering phone help lines during the shutdown, according to its shutdown plans.

    But anyone hoping that an IRS shutdown means getting a breather on their taxes will be disappointed. The agency's website says taxpayers "should file and pay their taxes as normal."

    As a CPA who was involved in creating new filing forms based on IRS instructions as laws changed, I can tell you that if the IRS hasen't updated their forms, it's LITERALLY impossible to file, either on paper or electronically. You simply cannot file 2018 taxes on a 2017 form or efile (especially with all the changes that have occurred in 2018). So I am in no hurry to get them back to work but I also have no interest in being penalized for filing "late" because they didn't get the forms updated. Depending on how late they are, I feel for my previous co-workers in the tax industry (not government employees). They are charged with getting it right and ON TIME, no matter the hours needed to catch up with government incompetence. They will be working long and hard.

    I still remember the year I worked both Xmas and Thanksgiving days.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 5 years, 10 months ago
    I notice on the mainstream news stories about the Partial shutdown, they always emphasize the negative impact to individuals, such as "Your tax return will still be due on time but you might not get your refund!!! OMG!!!" and (this one admittedly concerns me a bit because a family member flies every week and almost always to huge population centers) Air Traffic Controllers. I know they are working but eventually they WILL go get another job if they don't get paid. TSA I am not as concerned about. They are just a PIA anyway and basically are only good for obedience training.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 5 years, 10 months ago
    No immediate effects from the shutdown. I am planning a trek through Death Valley California with some friends in late April. Even were the shutdown to continue, the impact would be minimal: a few of the trails will be closed (there are dozens of trails) ... all the commercial establishments remain open (per our reservations and dining options). We will haul out our own trash. Impact is minimal. I would like to see the shutdown continue for a few months. We will see that much of the Fed Govt personnel are barnacles.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 5 years, 10 months ago
    Not much so far, personally. The mail goes out and comes in.
    See
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/governme...
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    • Posted by preimert1 5 years, 10 months ago
      Thanks, Mike. Reminds me of the of the guy who fell off the Empire State building and was heard to say as he passed the 39th floor on his way down, "so far, so good." :<)
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      • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 5 years, 10 months ago
        Well, no, actually. I think that we are going to find out that we can do without a lot of government. I mean, it is too bad about the National Parks because Independence Hall and other truly historic sites are part of that, but, really, Yosemite? Who cares? The parks can be run for a profit by management firms like Disney. They should be sold off one at time by open (Nash) bidding. What does the Department of Education do for you?

        You tell me which of these you need. And, OK, I'll give you the Treasury, Defense, and Justice.

        Federal Executive Departments
        Department of Agriculture (USDA)
        Department of Commerce (DOC)
        Department of Defense (DOD)
        Department of Education (ED)
        Department of Energy (DOE)
        Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
        Department of Homeland Security (DHS)
        Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
        Department of Justice (DOJ)
        Department of Labor (DOL)
        Department of State (DOS)
        Department of the Interior (DOI)
        Department of the Treasury
        Department of Transportation (DOT)
        Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)

        Federal Independent Agencies and Corporations
        Administrative Conference of the United States
        Advisory Council on Historic Preservation
        African Development Foundation
        AMTRAK (National Railroad Passenger Corporation)
        Broadcasting Board of Governors
        Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
        Commission on Civil Rights
        Commodity Futures Trading Commission
        Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC)
        Corporation for National and Community Service
        Court Services and Offender Supervision Agency for the District of Columbia
        Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board
        Director of National Intelligence
        Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
        Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC)
        Export-Import Bank of the United States
        Farm Credit Administration
        Farm Credit System Insurance Corporation
        Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
        Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC)
        Federal Election Commission (FEC)
        Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
        Federal Housing Finance Agency
        Federal Labor Relations Authority
        Federal Maritime Commission
        Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service
        Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission
        Federal Reserve System
        Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
        Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
        General Services Administration (GSA)
        Institute of Museum and Library Services
        Inter-American Foundation
        Merit Systems Protection Board
        Millennium Challenge Corporation
        National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA)
        National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
        National Capital Planning Commission
        National Council on Disability
        National Credit Union Administration (NCUA)
        National Endowment for the Arts
        National Endowment for the Humanities
        National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
        National Mediation Board
        National Railroad Passenger Corporation (AMTRAK)
        National Science Foundation (NSF)
        National Transportation Safety Board
        Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)
        Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission
        Office of Compliance
        Office of Government Ethics
        Office of Personnel Management
        Office of Special Counsel
        Office of the Director of National Intelligence
        Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive
        Overseas Private Investment Corporation
        Panama Canal Commission
        Peace Corps
        Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation
        Postal Regulatory Commission
        Railroad Retirement Board
        Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
        Selective Service System
        Small Business Administration (SBA)
        Social Security Administration (SSA)
        Tennessee Valley Authority
        U.S. Trade and Development Agency
        United States Agency for International Development
        United States International Trade Commission
        United States Postal Service (USPS)

        67 Federal Boards, Commissions, and Advisory Committees
        (Mostly volunteers from the communities: Citizens Stamp Committee, for instance. They do entail some operational costs, even if the work of management is freely given.)
        Additional Advisory Committees cost about $350 Million per year
        http://www.gsa.gov/portal/content/249...

        Quasi-Official Agencies
        Legal Services Corporation
        Smithsonian Institution
        State Justice Institute
        United States Institute of Peace

        SEE
        http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/E...
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 5 years, 10 months ago
          I would say it is time to just have an overhaul and eliminate everything that does not directly support security or law enforcement. See what happens and then add only with a 2/3 vote in both houses.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 10 months ago
          "You tell me which of these you need"
          If you have a job or grant for one, you really need it. It's worthwhile to lobby to keep the tragedy of a sudden loss of it from happen. It's not worthwhile for everyone else to lobby for their penny back.

          Two weeks ago I gave the Miraflores visitor's center $64 for my family to see the locks. But I didn't get to send less with the 1040-ES that was due Jan 15.

          I'm one of those people who would actually be for sending them money if they were helping people in need and helping those people fleeing El Salvador-- not as alms, but because we pay one way or another; and I want everyone to be free.

          It's worthwhile to lobby for a penny from every household in the country. It's not worthwhile for people to lobby for it back.

          I don't for a moment believe any narrative with President Trump standing up to this. He supported increased spending and borrowing. And his deplorables didn't send in big quarterly estimates. They're paying nothing but Social Security payroll taxes and kvetching about the places that pay the bills, the irony apparently completely lost on them.
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