Jack Phillips wins! SCOTUS rules Christian baker's rights were violated when Colorado tried to force him to bake gay wedding cake

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 6 months ago to Government
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A degree of sanity restored. Private ownership finally gets a win. In this country an owner of a business should sink or swim on his decisions alone. No business owner should be forced to provide service to anyone for anything he/she chooses not to for any reason.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 6 months ago
    I cant believe the stupidity of this. Of all the things important, forcing someone to bake a cake for you is insignificant to say the least. To litigate this is insane. If someone doesnt want to bake your cake, find someone else who will undoubtedly do it for you- and move on.

    Entitlement is a curse on our country. Gays are entitled, blacks are entitled, women are entitled. And men are disparaged as stupid and insensitive cowards- even in TV commercials.

    This country is definitely going down the drain quickly.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 6 years, 6 months ago
    beg to differ...this ruling did not affirm an individual businessman's right to privacy...it was about the Colorado Civil Rights Commission being discriminatory...
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    • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 6 months ago
      Correct. This ruling just said that the Commission acted in an arbitrary and capricious manner when it imposed its ruling on Jack. The Court's decision didn't really address religious liberty at all - just the unequal enforcement of the Commission's actions.

      The Justices specifically said that their were other cases on the docket which would more closely focus on the issue of First Amendment Rights.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 6 months ago
    What didn't help the litigants' case was the fact that the baker often served gay customers. That proved he didn't discriminate against gays, just the idea of gay marriage. I would bet that if a liberal baker served gun owners, but refused to make a cake celebrating the opening of hunting season, a case could be made that he wasn't discriminating against 2nd amendment rights, but against an act he didn't approve of (killing animals for sport) being perfectly legal. No religion involved in that case, but the principle is the same.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 6 years, 6 months ago
    The decision is pretty narrow. They seem to have been mostly persuaded by the fact that the commission was explicitly hostile toward religion and found it violated the "Free exercise" clause of the first amendment. Most people ignore that clause when declaring separation of church and state.

    While I agree with the concept that the market, not government, should deal with business discrimination, this will probably not move the "dial" very far in that direction.

    Still,a win is a win.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 6 months ago
    Exactly. In fact, that is what is wrong with the Civil Rights Bill of 1964. Though it was long overdue in striking down state laws authorizing segregation in publicly-owned facilities (courthouses, public schools, etc.), it went wrong in violating private owners' rights to make the rules on their own property. (The way to fight that sort of bigotry is by boycotts, etc.) And that part should be repealed. Just because somebody works with the public does not mean his business is owned by the public. (I don't recall that the Supreme Court has ever ruled on that issue. As to its Constitutionality, it might be somewhat addressed by the "taking's" clause in the Constitution). There is also the matter of Amendment #13, regarding "involuntary servitude".
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 6 months ago
    While many are hailing the decision, I think it to be premature. The case's only true outcome was to declare the Colorado Commission to be in gross violation of any standard of fair application of the law. It did not rule on the legality of the law in the first place, which is what remains to be decided and a future decision is very unlikely to be a 7-2 verdict.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 6 months ago
    Not a win at all! This gay couple shopped for a baker they knew would refuse just so they could sue and get the publicity. The shop owner might have won the battle but he surely lost the war that was very costly to fight. Too bad we don't have the rule "Loser Pays" the legal fees.
    Go in to a Muslim owned T shirt shop and order 100 shirts with the Ten Commandments printed on them and see how that goes.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 6 months ago
    "Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented."
    These two biased jurists continue to make statist anti-freedom rulings as they have for decades.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 6 months ago
      Correct. Both should have recused themselves. Ginsberg acted as a Justice of the Peace for a homosexual couple prior to even the ruling that such was legal and Sotomayor isn't even qualified to sit on the Court. What surprised me was the Kagan - who argued the homosexual marriage case on behalf of the government - sided with the majority.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 6 months ago
    I support the baker's right to discriminate (and my right to have nothing to do with companies that discriminate), but the case was about the procedure, not the merits of the law. The media, esp in headlines, imply that the court was responding to the merits of the case, i.e. the baker's right to choose his customers. My understanding is the ruling did not take that into account. It was a ruling on unrelated procedural issues being appealed.
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