Every government failure is but practice for the next one.

If we close all the schools, there will be no school shootings also. If we eliminate all students, they cant be shot also. These are ideas just as stupid as eliminating guns. If I was so inclined, there are OTHER ways to cause harm to people. We are making so much fuss over 17 people, when it is NOT hard to kill 17 people before law enforcement gets anywhere near to stop it. Small chemical bombs set off in very crowded and confined places could easily kill more.

The liberals should be HONEST and just say they want to disarm ALL citizens so THEY can be in control Thats the beginning and end of their arguments really.

The police officer who choose NOT to do what he swore to do as a part of his job should be questioned intensely to find out why he "stood down" when the shooter was active. There are to many aspects of this situation that smell like a dead fish.

Well said.
However, any class action lawsuits should be against those "personally" in charge and not recompensed with taxpayer money.

It's time Everyone be held accountable!

Since e the shooters deceased adopted mom left an estate of $800,000, it seems they are ripe for civil suits from parents of deceased students. However, I am more interest in why this keeps happening. Why did a kid, with a mom with those resources, end up so messed up? How did he end up in the care of a woman who has been arrested for theft and fraud, who know wants to control the estate. She has committed the younger brother since the shooting to a mental institution, land filed to control the money. Now, with a set up like this, where were children's services, that a woman like that got those kids, and how bad was it that the shooter moved in with friends? How old was he when he started acting weird, and what saftey net of social services did he fall through. Was he on psychotropics? Was the CIA screwing with him online, with a goal of gun control? No child is born evil, so something went sadly wrong. Also, if a kid is blocked from guns, will he plant bombs, poison gas (ingredients available online), come with a sword, use a car to attack them as they wait for the doors to open? I don't believe an armed teacher is trained to handle all these scenarios. It takes someone with more training, more than that cop in Fl. had, who never went inside.

I think gun-free zones should be gotten rid of. They are an invitation to thugs.--Also, having some of the teachers armed would be a good idea. In that respect I agree, for once, with President Trump.--One thing that incenses me about it is that many people use such incidents as an excuse to strip the American people of their means of self-defense.--And, understandable as it is for those student-survivors to be upset, it is not right that a bunch of hysterical children should determine national policy.--When a vicious murder occurs, the court does not put the murder victim's family members on the jury.

Good luck with that....it is hard to sue city hall and the jury realizes that the cost will come back to them directly in taxes. They also all want to dump their kiddies on the schools because they need someone to babysit them. so they are less likely to find against the schools for the actions of a madman. It is far easier to demonize an evil corporation in court. No one cares that a madman did it. If he once worked for Exxon Mobil a jury could be more easily convinced that it is Exxon Mobil's fault. [I am exaggerating here for effect....but actually not much when you see some of the wacky courts decisions!

I STARTED ANOTHER THREAD BASED ON THIS BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE POSTED HERE, ALSO. SERIOUSLY DAMNING TO THE WHOLE SCHOOL/COPS CHICANERY.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/96...

100% correct...a massive financial judgment in the parents favor, along jail time for school officials would incentivize them to solve this problem they created by making schools "defenseless" zones...

"thus, is responsible for the safety of the children"
To me that means you would act as a reasonable parent would to keep the kids safe. If a room is on fire and the kid panics or doesn't realize the gravity of the situation, and adult should remove the child from the area.

I do not think the law should require schools to protect kids against every freak peril. Even with good parents present, freak perils still hurt/kill children.

Some people have this neurosis that if someone obsessively watches children and restricts their every movement, no harm can come to them. Sadly, it's not true.

We used a Baptist church's summer camp last year. I disagree with most of the religious stuff they teach, but I love how they let kids play and don't obsess about safety: "If God decides it's time for you to come home, there's nothing you can do. It's all part of a greater plan we're not meant to understand in this life." We shouldn't have to believe in gods to find that equanimity.

Yes, you are correct. This is part of the reason private schools are legally liable for their negligence in protecting students from, say, sexual abuse being perpetrated by other students if/when the school knows about. However, because public schools are run by the government, sovereign immunity shields them from suit. You can't sue the government unless the government has consented to suit.

Sovereign immunity stems from British roots; one could not go into the King's court's and claim the King had done something wrong. The doctrine was literally "the king can do no wrong" because the king defines what is right/lawful and what is wrong/unlawful. A wonderful concept to bring into the United States' system, but we did. And here we are.

This is just like the shooting in Palm Bay in 1987, when I was in college. One old man shot a bunch of people, and took hostages in a Kmart. People who were shot, but alive lay in the parking lot. The police of several towns wrung their hands, moaned and peed on the floor. Before, he got to Kmart, he shot two police officers. One in a car, the other emptied his revolver at the guy across the road, fumbled his speed loader, and was found sitting on the ground by the cruiser shot. Many hours later the guy was apprehended or surrendered. It was a pathetic demonstration of small town law enforcement cowardice, just like this.

These same guys don’t act quite the same when collecting speeding ticket taxes or pestering high school kids.

A report released Friday claims four of Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel’s deputies waited outside Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School while the attack was occurring.....Now CNN reports that the Coral Springs police officers claim three other Broward County deputies were outside the school but failed to go inside as well. They quote “Coral Springs sources” who said the three “deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles” when Coral Springs officers arrived. They said “not one of [the deputies] had gone into the school.”

Seems a valid point to me.

I agree.