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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
    There is substantial evidence that Columbus was secretly Jewish.Since there is so much anti-semitism afoot nowadays, this will at least give those nut-cases a more traditional time-tested reason for their hatred, or if they are of the Defend All Minorities school, get them to embrace Columbus.Who knows? They may turn the 3 little pigs into villains for giving the Big Bad Wolf emphysema.
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    • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
      Why do they think he was Jewish?; just because the King and Queen of Spain were so thankful for getting rid of the muslims that they planned to free the Jews from the muslim take over of Israel?

      As for the 3 little pigs, it wouldn't surprise me. They already destroyed the Cat in the Hat with their stupidity.

      Columbus was clearly Christian
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      • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
        Well he signed his letters with the Hebrew letter shem, which Mr. Spock used as his hand configured representation for his "live long and prosper." That alone is good enough for me, but there are many facts about his origins, his relatives, his brother, that you can look up if you choose to. Also, he wasn't from Genoa, nor was his real name Columbus or even Colon. In any case, I have it on good authority that he was a swell guy.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
          Possibly a Majorcan Jew The history of the Jews in the Balearic Islands goes back more than a thousand years.

          Jews have lived in the Balearic Islands in the Mediterranean, belonging to Spain. These are situated to the east of Valencia, the three principal of which are named Majorca (Spanish, Mallorca), Minorca (Menorca), and Eivissa or Ibiza. The group first formed the Kingdom of Majorca; later it became a Spanish province under the domination of Aragon. According to the chroniclers, there were Jewish inhabitants in the Balearic Isles as early as the 2nd century. In the 5th century, at the instigation of Bishop Severus, a persecution of the Jews took place in Mahon (Magona), the capital of Minorca. As a result, a number of Jews, including Theodore, a rich representative Jew who stood high in the estimation of his coreligionists and of Christians alike, underwent baptism.

          The mystery begins with Cristobal Colon, “love child” of Prince Carlos IV of Viana, Spain and Margarita Colon of Mallorca, Spain, born circa 1460.

          Someone else, called Cristoforo Colombo, was born in 1451 in Genoa, Italy. This person was poorly educated and a dealer in wool, not a sailor much less an explorer.

          Cristobal Colon (the real “Christopher Columbus”) had extensive seagoing experience. At the age of 12, the unacknowledged offspring of Prince Carlos IV, who was by then dead, had crewed for the Mediterranean pirate Rene d’Anjou. By the age of 14, Colon knew enough to be allowed to navigate. Colon sailed far, eventually to Iceland and to the African coast.

          Just some info I found. Herb who knows .....
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          • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
            I suspect that the life of Columbus, or Colon, or Bernie Schwartz would make a thrilling adventure story. If all the facts were known, he'd come off as a cross between Errol Flynn and John Wayne.
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            • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
              It is what , that is between the ears that matters and it is gray matter. When you get to that level of tissue it is impossible to visualize a heritage or ethnicity.
              How it is used is the difference maker . If he had to change his name to avoid some type of persecution so be it. It is a shame that after all these years too many pick evil in the choice of good or evil.
              To Captain a ship with 50 men , setting sail for a undetermined time to a unknown location with limited resources that is a leader. The confidence to lead has to come from ability and expirience no matter the lineage.
              I enjoy reading Moby Dick, Robinson Crusoe, Treasure Island, the sailors knew that danger was ever present and lived with a reckless behavior.
              Daring and courageous or knuckleheads and muscles or skill and fortitude all characteristics
              That are necessary to sail away another day.
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              • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
                Gotta agree with you.
                Many years ago I took a one day trip on a Columbus type ship. I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't survive a week. Those guys had moxie.
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                • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                  I learned from deep sea fishing for a couple of hours on the Gulf of Mexico that I would be too seasick to do anything.
                  That boat was hardly bigger than one of Columbus's "ships."
                  I did catch one whole fish, though.
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                  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
                    I went deep sea fishing twice. The 1st time, I caught a Marlin and sold it. Broke even. The next time a couple of sea mackerals . If I'd gone to the supermarket and bought enough fish for the whole family I would have gotten away cheaper.
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                    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                      I caught a dinky sea bass. Woulda tossed it back if I knew I wasn't going to catch anything else.
                      I offered it to the fish butcher on the Panama City Beach pier where the boat docked. He said it was too small.
                      I've eaten large bream that small but I was staying at a beach side motel room without a stove.
                      No matter. When the fish butcher turned his back, I tossed it onto his pile of fish and left.
                      Oh, I have sinned! Bwahaha!
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          • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
            That is great research but Columbus' other name reminds me of a character's father in my failed novel, Cycnus, Son Of War, (recall you finding a scene with catapults on sale funny) that was really a therapeutic exercise of mine following a divorce. (Hesiod wrote of a Cycnus, son of Ares, who was killed by Hercules).
            Anyway, that other character with a father is Polyps, son of Colon.
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        • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
          Interesting...maybe he was an admirer like I am...seems he may have had that in common with the spanish King and Queen.

          Shalom, Herb
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          • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 2 months ago
            He was a brilliant sailor and was made an Admiral, which I think went to his head. Anyhow, he wound up bonkers crawling around in a cell eating his own waste. The Italians claim him for their own. The great navigator from Genoa, but he wasn't a navigator, a Catholic, or likely not born in Italy.
            "He studied China and China's lingo,
            And promptly bumped into Santa Domingo."
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            • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
              In learning of the Majorcan Jews I found this amongst other things (horrid human behavior committed against them)

              that gun control was part of the story.

              The greater the indebtedness of the Christians to the Jews, the more inimical became their attitude. As a result of this state of affairs, the governor of the islands forbade (1390) all Jews to carry weapons, even in their own quarter, or to leave their homes two hours after sunset without carrying a light. After the outbreaks in Valencia and Barcelona (1391), the governor had to interfere for the safety of the Jews' quarter in Palma de Mallorca. On August 24, 1391, the long-dreaded calamity fell upon the community of Majorca. Jewish homes were sacked; and even the houses of Christians sheltering Jews in concealment were not spared. About 300 Jews were put to death, 800 saved themselves in the royal castle, and the rest underwent baptism. When Queen Violante was informed of the outrage, she condemned the inhabitants of the islands to pay a fine of 150,000 florins (or, according to some authorities, 104,000 florins). A year later (1392), however, Juan I granted full amnesty to all who had practised violence against the Jews or "the Calle," because they had done it for the welfare of king and state; and he further declared all debts of the Christians to the Jews to be null and void.
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  • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 2 months ago
    I am skeptical of anything I read in newspapers and e-mags but I do care about history and read many biographies written by historians and which include extensive documentation. Even academic efforts are open to interpretation but they are more likely to be closer to the truth than what some blogger or op-ed writer throws out. I also give some credence to organizations that have a history of providing factual and thoughtful analysis of subjects. I found this Heritage Foundation's treatise on Columbus to be more believable than most articles I have read.

    http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/06/the...
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Thank you for that article. The truth may be somewhere in between the article above and that thing I quickly found by typing in "Columbus chopped off hands."
      What I find appalling is that the left wants to erase history. I do believe they dream of a socialist society in the future which no one knows anything about our Founding Fathers and the U.S. Constitution.
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      • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 2 months ago
        Just think, millions of years with humans and their ancestors on this planet and one cadre of literate farmers put together the document that describes the greatest nation ever for its citizens and the world and they want to erase it. What must we do to stop it?
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          Elect patriots like Trump. Well, try to~
          Me dino with my one vote views the future to be the luck found in the toss of a coin.
          Libs are trying to turn that into a heads I win tails you lose kinda thing.
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          • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 2 months ago
            In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter much who is in the oval office. If he was great, congress would block everything he proposed. If he is an idiot we would get the same results we have now. We have to educate our kids in how to reason clearly and wait for them to take over or at least prepare a road for our grandchildren to do so. In my case it will have to be my great grandkids and I don't have any.
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
              Electing patriots applies to Congress too.
              Unfortunately, self-serving professional politicians are not patriots.
              It's hard to find even one good man in a swamp.
              Mewthinks swamps drown those kinda guys.
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  • Posted by wiggys 7 years, 2 months ago
    I have never understood why we celebrate Columbus since he never set foot on the soil of the continent called America, he never even saw it from the sea. he landed on Watlings island in the Bahamas. of course he is not celebrated there because his presence and that of his crew ultimately caused the inhabitant of the islands to die. the current Bahamians were originally slaves from the Carolinas left there by the Tabaco and cotton growers after they found out you can't grow stuff in limestone soil. of course history is written incorrectly but you knew that.
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      Yesterday I walked to the mailbox and place two letters inside. Just I began to raise the box's flag, I said, "Oh, crap! It's Columbus Day. Mail doesn't run."
      Me dino took the letters back inside.
      I do not agree with vandalizing monuments and trying to erase history to advance the lib cause, but that's about all Columbus Day means to me.
      The mail does not run.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 2 months ago
    I think we already have the goggles. It's Indigenous People's Day in Madison, and I'm going to an event with Senator Warren next week. :)
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    • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
      LOL! Please give Pocahontas a rousing cry of Woo-woo-woo-Warren!
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
        I heard the real story derived from Columbus's diary...boy did they get it wrong. Even the supposed slaves he took back to spain. They were the sex slaves of the cannibals in the Caribbean, and as the article states...same thing was happening on American soil also. They would impregnate them and eat the babies...Columbus freed them from that slavery and brought them back to spain to have a normal life.
        And why, would anyone blame anyone for unknowingly bringing new diseases to a new land when no one in those times had any clue about such things.
        Columbus made friends with indigenous people where ever he went...but we can't say the same for the spanish crews on those ships. Columbus dealt with Them harshly.

        Will be learning more in the future and will provide links as I learn.
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        • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
          I remember reading about those baby-eating cannibals a long time ago. If you think about it, daddy is eating junior. Ugh!
          My son said he read that Columbus punished slow-working Indians by having their hands chopped off.
          What am I doing? I'll look it up myself.
          Ta ta! This article is really bad~
          http://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/10...
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
            Where oh where do these creatures get this crap?
            Here we go again with the liberal's refusal to accept the authority of the original author.

            The spanish crews were vial creatures, much to the horror of of Italian Columbus...I am sure he punished them...not the non flesh eating indians.
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
              I don't think anybody was Mr. Goody Two Shoes back then.
              Today? It sure isn't lib thugs who want to erase history by tearing down monuments and beating up people who don't agree with them.
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              • Posted by coaldigger 7 years, 2 months ago
                525 years into the future (if there is one) people will look back and judge us by their standards. Will that be fair?
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                • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
                  If the libs have their way, they won't know nothing to judge us with period. Always look forward! Sacrifice for the greater good of the state!
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                  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
                    And save documented REAL history before it is changed so that we might be judged fairly...the future should know the truth of it.
                    For those things of which the outcome is unknown, may we have the chance to change the missteps of today, tomorrow.
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              • Posted by lrshultis 7 years, 2 months ago
                Although history is full of evil doers, one should not wish that it never unfolded that way or that one should somehow punish those whose ancestors might have been taking part in the evil doings. That wish would logically mean a wish to not have been born. Unless there is a god who implants souls in bodies, then, since the conditions where conception takes place with a particular ovum and some lucky sperm entering the ovum, would very unlikely have not taken place, meaning that a particular human would not have been born. So, with most accidental happenings, do not try to change the past but rather see that the future does not continue evils of the past. Otherwise, depression will ruin one's life.
                By the way, I do not blame you, an allosaurus, for for all carnage done by your ancestors some time ago. Predators must eat and reproduce until some space thing wipes them out. Human predators, though, can learn to mend their ways, especially with the help of conservatives and others who believe that there are never enough incarcerated persons.
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                • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago
                  One thing mankind must realize: If this life and our ascension into conscious awareness was to be so damn easy...there would be no need for forgiveness.

                  Sound mystical?...not really, that too might be quantum physical. Think, reconciliation of two previously entangled local quantum particles.
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          • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
            Wow, he sounds like a Clinton right down to Haiti. I never heard any of these things about Columbus.
            Is this common knowledge?
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            • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago
              I don't think it is.
              I also don't know if everything in that article is accurate, but it is a fact that Europeans tended to look down on anyone of another color and particularly pagans back then.
              The conquistadors who followed were very cruel.
              None of this alters the fact that Columbus led the gutsy expedition that discovered "the Americas."
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              • Posted by Dobrien 7 years, 2 months ago
                Yes I read Aphrodite's Island: The European Discovery of Tahiti. The discoverers (well I guess the folks who lived there quite nicely and knew how to get around had previously discovered the isles) had a mentality that they were so civil that they natives life was not so valuable. Yet there was three or four gentlemen who were conscious and recognized these were humans and intervened on the natives behalf the best they could.
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