Dr. David Kelley to Retire
Be forewarned, esoteric reading ahead...
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"Open Objectivism" - The recognition that Objectivism is open to expansion, refinement, and revision. Objectivism is a body of rational knowledge rather than a fixed, closed set of doctrines like a religion.
- Dr. David Kelley
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I first met David in 2010 while we were preparing to release Atlas Shrugged Part 1. David had been a consultant on the production of the film and I had been brought in only a few months prior to the film's release to help with marketing - I was a HUGE Rand advocate and damn near kicked the door down to work on the project (but that's another story for another day).
Prior to meeting David, I had only a cursory knowledge of the Kelley/Peikoff rift and looked forward to peppering David with my very hardcore "Objectivisty" questions, "Isn't Objectivism only what Ayn Rand said it was?", "Isn't Leonard Peikoff Ayn Rand's named successor and intellectual heir?", "Why must you name your philosophy 'OPEN' Objectivism!?"
I was ready for a fight. I was going to put David through his paces and I was determined that he would be mental mush when I was done with him. “Open Objectivism” my a**.
Yep. And, that's exactly how it went down. Or, at least... eh ehm... in my mind, that's how I thought it was going to go down.
Then David showed up.
"Great to finally meet you Dr. Kelley. I've read so much.", I said hand outstretched ready for him to just brush me off.
"Hey Scott! I've heard so much about you! Want to get a drink?", he exclaimed eyes piercing and fully engaged.
"Um... sure... yeah... a drink.", I murmured taken aback.
But, I wasn't going to let his "I'm Mr. Awesome" routine throw me off. I had business to attend to - a legacy to protect!
"So David," I continued, "Isn't Leonard Peikoff Ayn Rand's named successor and intellectual heir?
He laughed and did a dry spit-take as he sipped his wine, "Nice to meet you too."
I remained stoic. I wasn't budging.
The night went on, and we talked... and talked... and talked. David welcomed every question, every jab, and every poke. He was engaged, he was funny, he was thoughtful, and he was smart - like really smart. Like, "For Christ's sake, Seriously!?" smart.
During our conversation, I kept asking myself, "Why is this legitimate Professor of Philosophy not talking down to me? Why isn't he at least being a little defensive? Why is he so open to everything I'm throwing at him?"
"Why is he so open to every question... open to every assertion... open to every angle I present... open to every..."
"Oh."
"Wait."
"Oh no."
"Did he just...?"
That night, David took me by the hand, and showed me what "open" meant. Not by defending anything. Not by asserting anything. Not by digging in his heels.
But, by being "open", the epitome of open - open to criticism, open to challenge, and open to differing ideas in a way I had never before experienced.
David taught me by his action, what "open" meant.
So tells the story of the night I beat-up David Kelley, and the night David Kelley acquired a new student for life.
Well done David.
Scott DeSapio
Associate Producer, Atlas Shrugged
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David Kelley’s Greatest Hits
The Primacy of Existence:
https://youtu.be/AVBgfamJxFk
David Kelley on Egalitarianism and Welfare Rights Theory
https://youtu.be/GIud6F1XeE8
Selfishness: What and Why
https://youtu.be/R9ESgm28yM0
Good Judgment
https://youtu.be/bo0pGB7nyuA
Choosing Life part 1
https://youtu.be/xPeVYL61Xhg
Choosing Life part 2
https://youtu.be/lOZ1AF2dbpk
David Kelley on the Morality of Individualism
https://youtu.be/xmp4AfFRmAU
Interview with Dr. David Kelley
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
John Galt Speech Raw Footage
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
Producers ONLY: Scripting the speeches in Atlas shrugged
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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"Open Objectivism" - The recognition that Objectivism is open to expansion, refinement, and revision. Objectivism is a body of rational knowledge rather than a fixed, closed set of doctrines like a religion.
- Dr. David Kelley
- - - - - - - - - -
I first met David in 2010 while we were preparing to release Atlas Shrugged Part 1. David had been a consultant on the production of the film and I had been brought in only a few months prior to the film's release to help with marketing - I was a HUGE Rand advocate and damn near kicked the door down to work on the project (but that's another story for another day).
Prior to meeting David, I had only a cursory knowledge of the Kelley/Peikoff rift and looked forward to peppering David with my very hardcore "Objectivisty" questions, "Isn't Objectivism only what Ayn Rand said it was?", "Isn't Leonard Peikoff Ayn Rand's named successor and intellectual heir?", "Why must you name your philosophy 'OPEN' Objectivism!?"
I was ready for a fight. I was going to put David through his paces and I was determined that he would be mental mush when I was done with him. “Open Objectivism” my a**.
Yep. And, that's exactly how it went down. Or, at least... eh ehm... in my mind, that's how I thought it was going to go down.
Then David showed up.
"Great to finally meet you Dr. Kelley. I've read so much.", I said hand outstretched ready for him to just brush me off.
"Hey Scott! I've heard so much about you! Want to get a drink?", he exclaimed eyes piercing and fully engaged.
"Um... sure... yeah... a drink.", I murmured taken aback.
But, I wasn't going to let his "I'm Mr. Awesome" routine throw me off. I had business to attend to - a legacy to protect!
"So David," I continued, "Isn't Leonard Peikoff Ayn Rand's named successor and intellectual heir?
He laughed and did a dry spit-take as he sipped his wine, "Nice to meet you too."
I remained stoic. I wasn't budging.
The night went on, and we talked... and talked... and talked. David welcomed every question, every jab, and every poke. He was engaged, he was funny, he was thoughtful, and he was smart - like really smart. Like, "For Christ's sake, Seriously!?" smart.
During our conversation, I kept asking myself, "Why is this legitimate Professor of Philosophy not talking down to me? Why isn't he at least being a little defensive? Why is he so open to everything I'm throwing at him?"
"Why is he so open to every question... open to every assertion... open to every angle I present... open to every..."
"Oh."
"Wait."
"Oh no."
"Did he just...?"
That night, David took me by the hand, and showed me what "open" meant. Not by defending anything. Not by asserting anything. Not by digging in his heels.
But, by being "open", the epitome of open - open to criticism, open to challenge, and open to differing ideas in a way I had never before experienced.
David taught me by his action, what "open" meant.
So tells the story of the night I beat-up David Kelley, and the night David Kelley acquired a new student for life.
Well done David.
Scott DeSapio
Associate Producer, Atlas Shrugged
- - - - - - - - - -
David Kelley’s Greatest Hits
The Primacy of Existence:
https://youtu.be/AVBgfamJxFk
David Kelley on Egalitarianism and Welfare Rights Theory
https://youtu.be/GIud6F1XeE8
Selfishness: What and Why
https://youtu.be/R9ESgm28yM0
Good Judgment
https://youtu.be/bo0pGB7nyuA
Choosing Life part 1
https://youtu.be/xPeVYL61Xhg
Choosing Life part 2
https://youtu.be/lOZ1AF2dbpk
David Kelley on the Morality of Individualism
https://youtu.be/xmp4AfFRmAU
Interview with Dr. David Kelley
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
John Galt Speech Raw Footage
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
Producers ONLY: Scripting the speeches in Atlas shrugged
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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I didn't know he was a professor or open Objectivism. It's nice he can make is so plain for people who aren't into the philosophical debates.
You used a curious phrase: "doing it in the name of someone else's ideas while subjectively redefining the name under the banner of 'openness' is not honest." (end quote.) Who, exactly, is "subjectively redefining the name" of Objectivism? Your thinking, here, is muddy. Merely saying that Rand was wrong about X, Y or Z, (or that Peikoff is wrong about X, Y, or Z), is not "redefining the name" of Objectivism. If any Objectivist wishes to challenge Rand or Peikoff on any issue whatsoever, he or she does not cease being an Objectivist by so doing.
Frankly, ARI-affiliated Objectivists are wrong to refrain from attempting to defend their positions from serious critiques from fellow Objectivists. For example, I would have loved to have seen a thoughtful and timely attempt by Peikoff to respectfully challenge Nathaniel Branden's classic, "The Benefits and Hazards of the Philosophy of Ayn Rand"; (if a rebuttal, indeed, was possible).
I have been interested in analyzing this "taboo" against open dialogue, (Peikoff's/ARI's position), in terms of the analysis in Mary Douglas's 1960's anthropology classic, "Purity and Danger". Based on my reading of Douglas, I ask myself: Just what is the (actual) purpose served by the "taboo" against accepting and debating with Objectivists who openly admire Nathaniel Branden? Or David Kelley? or [insert name of person it is taboo to admire or even read].
I am still thinking about the implications and possible applications of Douglas's findings, to the Objectivist community. What Douglas inspired me to consider is that it is inadequate to just "assume" that the taboo against the Branden's, et al., is merely a "power play" by Peikoff, or emotional immaturity, or whatever. I think something else is going on. Rather, thinking of the Objectivist community as a culture, it then makes sense to analyse that culture as anthropologists (or sociologists) would.
What culture does not have taboos, of some kind? WHAT PURPOSE IS SERVED, by having THIS set of taboos, instead of another set?
I do not know what the results of such a study might yield, but there could be a great doctoral dissertation in this, for someone.
To demand that one's owns ideas be regarded as inherently part of a philosophy formulated by someone else through what she wrote and said is just as dishonest as plagiarism claiming to have originated another person's ideas. Those promoting this flim flam in the name of "openness" know fully well that Ayn Rand chose and publicly used the name "Objectivism" for her philosophy; they are appropriating the name because she used it, not because they have a superior regard for "truth" without regard to a supposedly arbitrary name.
Those most loudly and insistently making this "open Objectivism" demand are typically the worst offenders of ignorance and misrepresentation of Ayn Rand's philosophy, demonstrating the purpose and expected results of cashing in on the ensuing confusion by a combination of crack pots, incompetents, and amateurs who may or may not know any better, and who don't deserve the audience they are misleading and seek to capture under the banner of Ayn Rand's philosophy.
This was the case even within Ayn Rand's own lifetime by those appropriating her name and cashing in on her fame while advertising themselves as "teaching" her ideas, "rewriting them", and/or "revising" them to whatever contradictory ideology they chose, from Libertarians to anarchists and more. She properly denounced it as half plagiarism and half contradicting her. They are typically those who don't know what much or most of her philosophy is, treating what they have read as a hodge podge of slogans and feelings on a philosophical Chinese menu. On such fringes today we even see the spectacle of "Christian Objectivists" insisting they are perfectly "compatible". It's not enough for them that they agree with some of her ideas despite their own contradictory premises, they demand that their own antagonistic views be packaged under the name of Ayn Rand along with those selected ideas of hers which they regard as required for their purpose.
Even if one formulates ideas that are compatible with Ayn Rand's philosophy, it is up to him to honestly acknowledge their status, with the true combination of sources, while demonstrating why he thinks his ideas and their formulation are implied by or an application of or an elaboration of her philosophy, distinguishing between it and his own work and not calling it her philosophy. If he contradicts it then they are flatly not Ayn Rand's philosophy regardless of what he thinks of it.
Ayn Rand's philosophy is radically different than most prevailing philosophical premises in all the historically major realms of philosophy. One of the central ideas is the importance of knowledge as an integrated, consistent, logical hierarchy, based on direct experience of facts of reality in a process of objective abstract concepts -- not a subjective hodge podge of ever-evolving "pragmatism" or constructed "models", or intrinsic (mystic) "Truths" to be "discovered". Leonard Peikoff realized in accordance with this the importance of maintaining the integrity of the philosophy as a basic principle of the educational organization he founded to address those who take ideas seriously. Ayn Rand's philosophy cannot be understood by watering it down with a maze of contradictions, poor rewrites, and floating abstractions coming in from multiple sources, muddying it and obstructing understanding what it is by obscuring its identity. ARI is not based on "taboo" and does not tell anyone what he must think. It focuses on its own intellectual and educational goals and integrity, and does not concern itself with unimportant distractions demanding an audience.
Nathaniel Branden has nothing to do with this and is not relevant. He discredited himself a half century ago through his own psycho-implosion and actions, personal hostility trying to undermine Ayn Rand, and fundamental changes in his ideas (including forays into New Age mysticism), all of which few pay attention to.
The axioms and premises defined by Ayn Rand are objectively universal. The world did not stop when Rand left it. It is the nature of existence that things evolve and more knowledge becomes available. Objectivism is a template, not a prison door. It cannot be a closed system, never allowing any new developments to enter human consciousness. Its principles can be and should be applied to any newly emerging events that can be measured against those fundamental principles.
The wisdoms Rand stated and defined are permanent tools for evaluating any ideas, relevant beyond the author's lifetime. They are not invalidated by changing contexts.
I guess I’m just not smart enough to figure out things like: “Can God make a rock so big he can’t lift it?”
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