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What do you all think of the Tea Party?

Posted by OH45458 11 years, 12 months ago to Politics
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As far as I can see, the liberals in the Democrat Party, and the spineless progressives in the Republican Party are leading this country down the economic road to oblivion. That being said, I am open to a new party that more closely matches my philosophy and desires, and will promote policies that will serve society rather than enslave it.

While I am not a member of the Tea Party movement, I sympathize with their intent, at least with what I perceive as their intent: that being smaller, less intrusive government, and a return to the founder's original intentions in this regard. However, my understanding is that this movement is just grass roots, with no real central national platform, and certainly with no vetting process for the candidates that it backs.

Can this movement be successful without organizing at the national level?

Is this movement viable? Will it become, like the GOP did just prior to the Civil War, the dominant party of the country?

Just interested in opinions...


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  • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
    Right on. You hit the nail right on the head.
    Libertarians believe in EVERYTHING. They resist nothing. Freedom for Freedoms sake is their idea.
    Freedom requires work and to some point 'sacrifice". It requires work and defending when necessary.
    They don't seem to believe in doing anything beyond empty words of "everything should be free" or whatever their physiology is.
    Have they ever REALLY stated what they believe and will defend?
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  • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
    GOD is not the god of the Jews, the Baptists, Catholics, or any other group.
    GOD is GOD.
    He is the universe and everything in it
    (He / She / or whatever God is, is. (Period)
    God is all around us all the time
    He is in your sense of wonder, your sense of self worth, your desire to live another day, the desire to help others, to help humanity despite many of their short comings. He is not in the heart or brains of murders, rapists and such.

    Put simply - "God is." We can't go beyond that definition one fraction of an inch.
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    • Posted by Solver 11 years, 11 months ago
      I use, God is contradiction. There is only one, or three or many, and everyone of them seems to be different in some way to everyone. He created everything, expect himself. He is all powerful and thus can create himself. If he created himself, God would not be God.
      Then there are those who just don't think He / She / or whatever, exists.
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    • Posted by $ puzzlelady 11 years, 11 months ago
      So that could be substituted for with Rand's axiom: "Existence exists." She also defined God as "the highest good" as humans are able to conceptualize it. If you really think God is in everything,and created everything, how can you exempt him from being in the hearts or brains of evildoers? He gets all the credit for what is good and none of the blame for what is bad (as we understand good and bad)? Oh, what a Joker in the deck.
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      • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
        GOD is what you want GOD to be. Some want a violent vengeful GOD, Others want a peaceful GOD. Others want a GOD who is benevolent, out of sight and out of mind. GOD is what you make of (HIM< HER <IT!)
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  • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
    The tea party (I am a member) are primarily people who have no spines left to do much more than talk amoung like mined people, they are 99% likely to vot for liberty and against Commies / Socialists like Obama (Osama) however they lack the ability to actually do anything positive. They will not fight, they will shy away from open confrontation - for the most part they are spineless like the majority of those that consider themselves "True Blue Americans".
    Above all - they will not fight back, they will passively resist but not openly and THAT is just about it
    They are like 98% of those who oppose Obama and the Democratic take over. They have lost their hearts and are scardy cats.
    I AM LOOKING FOR FIGHTERS WHO WILL DEFEND GALTS GULTCH AND THE AMERICAN IDEAL.
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    • Posted by $ puzzlelady 11 years, 11 months ago
      Sorry, you lost me there. Do you mean active violence? Assassinations? Rioting in the streets? How is that the American ideal?

      In a conflict of ideas, you need persuasion, not guns; talks, not tanks. Maybe the Tea Party folk could take a lesson from the Occupy Movement, if they're willing to be peppersprayed and arrested for peaceful (passive) demonstrations.

      Whom would you go out and fight against, and how?
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      • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago
        Hmm. And was this Country formed by people who spent all their time "persuading"? Or did they use guns? Just wondering how deep is your knowledge of history.
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      • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
        Yes, I mean be active. Counterproductive to their way of life. If they use violence you do them one better.
        If they take free programs from the government you take the same programs. It bleeds the source of money and accelerate the downfall.
        Assassinations - only it there is no other choice and that depends on THEM.
        Rioting in the streets? Isn't that how they get what they want. We have to do the same thing and get "our fair share) (as they like to refer to it as). The American ideal is not working. We have to show the "Takers (moochers) that we can take also leaving them just that much less.
        THEY do not listen to persuasion. Have you not been listening and watching TV? They want this. They want that, They Demand, They Deserve, They require etc.etc.etc

        How do you deal with people who WANT but are not willing be civil to others. Do you give them everything they want. NO! Bad children need spankings, to be sat in the corner but they do not need to be allowed to DEMAND.

        The Occupy Movement is a VIOLENT organization of spoiled children and needs to be treated as such. They need public spankings, be jailed until such time as they mature and are remorseful. Personally I would prefer public spankings where you drop their drawers (in public) and pound on their butts until they cry.
        ------ and do it each and every time they throw one of the tantrums until they stop.
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        • Posted by $ puzzlelady 11 years, 11 months ago
          Fascinating. Some countries do practice public floggings, even stonings. Americans tend to condemn such acts as brutality when done by others. Are public beatings part of Objectivist philosophy? What would John Galt do?
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          • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 11 months ago
            Simple. Let fools do what fools do best. Let the lazy and incompetent display their buffoonery for all to see.
            Bring the press and stand in the shadows and the the show commence for the whole world to see what complete and utter nonsense issues forth from ignorant, Incompetent and lazy fools.

            Just stand to the side and let the world see the type of people the liberal left support.
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