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  • Posted by XenokRoy 11 years, 11 months ago
    No, they do not.

    Just because society has decided to legalize theft does not make it something they have the right to do. It something they can legally do. When theft becomes something a society can legally do, that society is doomed to failure.

    Never confuse the legal ability to do a thing with the right to do a thing. He also has the right to say no, and face all the rest of the legal might that has been created for our current king-men.

    Only by having enough of these people with money say, nope your not doing this time will they enforce the right they have to stop it from being legal.

    We need 1000 of them willing to risk it all, to go to jail and to move every last dime out of the US and this non-sense would end. The legal "civil" method of theft would not work and it would force the government to expose the fact that they are only a thug taking what they do not own and have not earned. The greedy bastards need to learn that people wont take it any more, but as long as people like Peter Schiff keep taking the abuse the government will keep making it legal to steal from them.

    All that is needed to fix this problem is for 1000 like him to not simply move there money elsewhere but to stand together against the nonsense. They have the power to change it, but for some reason choose to stand by and do nothing; or stand alone. This inaction allows the Obama crowd to do what they want; make whatever they want legal.

    It is the inaction (and by it acceptance) of the rich that have made them slaves to the government.
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    • Posted by jorellyoung 11 years, 11 months ago
      I would like to endorse this most basic, but most essential argument - but before I can, I would like to draw some attention to the Hank Reardon's of the world, whose inaction comes in many forms. It's very easy for us to want people of substantial influence to take a stand, but in doing so we aren't acknowledging a few matters that I feel are important realizations.

      1) We drastically underestimate the power, duplicity and competence of the powers that be. The days of embarrassing Government foul-ups are long gone - where the government could be publicly shamed for events like the bay of pigs, agent orange, medicare, ruby ridge - there are an endless list, but they have learned that overt forms of propaganda are far inferior to the subtle methods of marketing that do far more to bolster reputation than the traditional indoctrination. When you think about Barrack Obama's first campaign, we are tempted to think of all the awful things he so openly stated in his interviews and debates. Those of us who were paying attention knew FULL well that he was a scholarly groomed socialist, and were met with very little surprise.

      What we should be realizing, is the incredible accomplishment that the Obama administration by successfully garnering support from a vast majority of the country by getting millions to completely ignore policy, ignore party, ignore principle and vote ENTIRELY on emotion. Yes, it was disgusting and degrading to libertarians who still had any degree of patriotic feelings for this nation - but we need to realize that we're not dealing with bumbling Fed's anymore; these people know how to promote their product and are only going to get better at it.

      If the Hank Reardon's of the world take a stand, they will not be renowned as the heroic visages we would like to think, but rather they will be publicly derided and crucified with every form of fabricated reputation slander imaginable... or their noble efforts will be concealed entirely by a media whose journalistic integrity has been sacrificed to their perverse means to their progressive ends. In short, these acts could very likely never be known or celebrated. Call me paranoid, but I don't think we are far from scurrying political enemies away to some contemporary Château d'If' on fabricated charges and evidence, We need to realize that progressives widely agree that the ends justify any means, while our methods are constrained by our rational morality.

      2) Remember that the Hank Reardon's of the world are human beings. They have lives, they have families, they have love. These people may not be willing to sacrifice themselves, their work, their lives for this cause, or any cause - they may just prefer to move to Barbados... and which of us can blame them for that? Should the cause of reason demand a handful sacrificial saviors?

      I don't mean to be pessimistic, just what I feel is realistic.

      EDIT: Just to be clear though, I completely agree with your sentiments in principle - just wanted to point out these matters which often get overlooked. :)
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      • Posted by XenokRoy 11 years, 11 months ago
        I do not disagree with you. I would only add this.

        55 men once risked it all to have 150 years of freedom. Because they were willing to do so, and had the mental ability to do so, the wisdom and resources to do so and the faith that it could be done, it worked.

        It could be done again today and things set right, but there will have to be a small group of dedicated people willing to risk it all to make it happen. That group will have to have the mind and skill to do it as well.

        Small groups of dedicated people are the only things that have ever changed the world for good or bad. It is the only thing that will right our course today as well.

        Today is no different. It will take small group of skilled, dedicated people with the resources to change it again. Nothing else ever has and nothing else ever will.

        If they do not want to take that risk, that is there choice. I would never remove another person agency from them.
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    • Posted by itisntluck 11 years, 11 months ago
      Dear XenokRoy, I don't think it's right to expect 1,000 "rich people" to risk losing everything and go to jail just to save the hides of the rest of the chicken sh*ts that don't have the guts to do anything but bitch about the government. Go Galt, damn it, then you will be doing something for yourself.
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      • Posted by XenokRoy 11 years, 11 months ago
        I do not expect it, and did not insinuate that I did expect it. You may want to read my response to Jorellyoung below as its also applicable here.
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        • Posted by itisntluck 11 years, 11 months ago
          I read your response just like I read the post I responded to. My cognitive abilities are just fine and I didn't insinuate anything. I take what others say (write) at face value. I don't speak in code nor do I read in code.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 11 months ago
    Nobody on the side to raise taxes on the wealthy gives a damn about the deficit. They just want to punish, even things out to be" fair."
    Some will Galt, some will just move away and some will bear it. The point is, the country will not sustain.
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  • Posted by $ bigjim 11 years, 11 months ago
    Interesting that I watched this video of Schiff saying that rich people will move there money, against the protestations of the other commentator saying that they won't do that, and then I immediately run across this article: http://allhiphop.com/2012/12/13/super-pr...

    Dr Dre is moving millions of dollars of his business to Ireland to take advantage of their lower tax rate.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 11 years, 11 months ago
    They have the power, the force, the might… but might does not make right.
    O.A.
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    • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 11 months ago
      I love when I hear that $200,000.00+ in the Northeast is a lot of money. What the news media fails to mention is that approx 39% of that gets greedily lopped off by our voracious gov't. That $200,000+ isn't the net amount that gets taken home. But of course, the media will make those of us in that tier and upward appear to be rolling in cash, and filling our bathtubs with Cristal!
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