Why can't we build something cheaper than cities?

Posted by andrewph 7 years, 4 months ago to Government
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What are we doing letting government rip off the tax payers? Granted it's in Canada. But even canadians are known for their common sense!
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 3 months ago
    Some anarchists started repairing potholes in the streets of Portland - all while wearing their black masks as to not be identified. That really cracked me up.
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  • Posted by ReneeDaphne 7 years, 3 months ago
    Canadian common sense:
    Two national languages
    National Health Care
    Still tied to England as a subject
    It's the same Agenda 21 regardless of country. The real problem isn't the bureaucracy. It's the fact we are still sitting down.

    These are the opportunities where we can win.
    Enough letters to the editor (don't bother with the bureaucrats)
    Picket lines around city hall preventing them from using what they need to use (like the stairs). DEMAND an explanation why the city needs to spend $65,000 but the job only cost $550 to fix. We had a small bridge on our street that took 18 months to complete. The whole time a brand new piece of equipment sat at the end of the street and only got used twice. An "exactely the same" bridge on a major road took only 2 weeks to complete.

    The problem is us folks, not them. We never demand accountability of them.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 3 months ago
      All laws are social experiments. Require the laws to be written along with a definition of an objectively measurable outcome. If the outcome is not achieved, the law is automatically voided. Then the vote can be partly driven by the outcome, not the hypothesis, and it is accountable.

      If you want people accountable, just apply statistics to the accuracy of the legislation of decisions they support, and promote/demote based on it.
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      • Posted by ReneeDaphne 7 years, 3 months ago
        How do we make that happen? It seems far easier to start holding people accountable in my own sphere of influence and that will "trickle" up as we create a principled populace. I don't see any way of doing it from the top down. For me it's NOT "OK" when someone fails to fulfill their commitment with me and I do let them know in rather clear terms. The skin is so thin these days however, that even pointing out discrepancies (let alone down right lies) will net you a few less friends each time.

        I guess it's true. You have to choose between having friends and having freedom. They seem to be pretty much mutually exclusive for the most part except on the rare occasion. What do you think? Can you have both?
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        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 7 years, 3 months ago
          You can definitely have both, if you are consistent and hold yourself accountable.

          I used to manage a lot of engineers (~800), and now have a smaller staff of executives. Being demanding is absolutely ok, if you demand of yourself and are sensitive to when you ask too much. Many people (particularly engineers) want to please others, and in doing so may attempt to promise more than they can achieve. You have to watch this, and ask them to provide what they can. There will be some issues as you identify the margins, but once done, it is simple to ask them to do what they can, and groom them for what is next. If you just let people promise, and then berate failed promises, the smart/lazy will gravitate to your good graces and the well-meaning/hard-working will be weeded out. The smart/well-meaning/hard-working will always succeed in all circumstances.

          I have MANY friends among my peers, subordinates and superiors/customers, many that are just acquaintances and some that dislike me. Without reservation, those that hate me are bums to be managed out.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 7 years, 3 months ago
    “We just can’t have people decide to go out to Home Depot and build a staircase in a park because that’s what they would like to have.”

    Ok...When I read that statement I thought, "This is why we're F&%ed." See the total collapse in logic? It's over...
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    • Posted by ReneeDaphne 7 years, 3 months ago
      Get your butt out the door and go TALK to some millennials. Don't instruct them, LISTEN and ask questions.

      Our message isn't getting out there because WE aren't getting out there.

      Go to meetup and find a local "discussion" group in your area - there are thousands popping up everywhere. Join, Talk. EXPOSE LIBERTARIANISM!!!!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 7 years, 3 months ago
    I wish that every citizen when they saw a simple problem like this just pitched in and fixed it. One look at the picture and the guy did a nice job and even built a handrail. "They're not up to government specifications." What a load of tripe. It's your "government specifications" including permits and hush money that makes a simple project like this cost 1000x what it should! And having the homeless guy help out with the project was brilliant! Heck, if he got paid $100 to help for the day, that would have been $100 very well spent - more profitable to both the homeless guy AND taxpayers!
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    • Posted by ReneeDaphne 7 years, 3 months ago
      You start DOING the little things:
      Clean up the sink area in a bathroom that's open to the public or pick up the paper on the floor.
      Take down the out of date posters when you put yours up.
      You hear someone spouting bullshit about principles or acting unprincipled in public, speak out.

      If you're waiting for a leader, like Steve Winward's song says - "take a look in the mirror".
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  • Posted by chad 7 years, 3 months ago
    For $65,000 (even Canadian) I could build some fine stairs and take the rest of they year off. How do I contact these imbeciles?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 4 months ago
    These are the people the world needs...they should leave his stairs alone because it seems no one has reported seeing any sly parasitical trial lawyers hiding behind any of the bushes so they must be ok.

    My issue is, why do we need cities...Period!
    In days old, Cities protected their citizens...today, the citizens need protection from the cities!
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    • Posted by EdGoldstein 7 years, 3 months ago
      Where else are the moochers and looters going to be stockpiled? You cannot just let them roam the countryside looting and mooching at random.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 3 months ago
        I was thinking some deserted island surrounded by sharks and salt water crocodiles...that way there we can use the cities for entertainment, knowledge and proper culture making them places to visit but not to live.
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