Amen!!!!!!!! BT

Income Tax IS Slavery because the TAKER also DECIDES the %.

Which literally says "I own your output, but I will let you keep 48% of the proceeds, I need the 52% for other things. And those who are self-employed understand either flow through, or ~39% business tax + 15% capital gains.

I start seeing the value of striking!

The income tax law isn't enforced or implemented as written. They screwed it up in order to collect more revenue. Go figure. Source: losthorizons.com

When a loaded gun is pointed at me, my life is threatened by definition. I agree, LBelle..

Nor did you know if it was only going to be a dime.

Hear, hear !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. So much yes.

Besides "protection", there is also "retaliation", that is, punishment after the fact. I agree that one should not take the law into his own hands_ after the
fact_, unless the government has somehow been derelict in its duty to rectify injustice that has already taken place.

True: Atlas Shrugged never once discusses the origins of Ragnar Danneskjold's ship. To Henry Rearden, Danneskjold says he never robbed a military vessel, because the military of any country have a legitimate function.

I had thought his vessel would have one of two origins.

1. Francisco d'Anconia built it for him. Or:

2. It is the former USS Enterprise CVN-65, which was on her way to the boneyard when Danneskjold's crew hijacked it. He might even have managed to insinuate enough of his recruits onto that ship, for what was supposed to be her last voyage, to represent a majority. Thus the worst crime anyone committed, was barratry--when the officer-in-charge steers a ship to a port other than where the owner wanted her to go.

The crews and guards of the ships were hired with money stolen from the people to deliver materials and goods also stolen from the people; this was done to the point that the people needed those stolen goods and materials to survive.

When an individual is stolen from; the intent is to send the police to recover, using force, the stolen property and to punish those involved in the theft. When an individual has their life threatened, it should always be right and just to defend that life with whatever means at hand.
The man caught eating the face off a homeless man a few years ago may have felt threatened by the police officer who shot and killed him; but his right to life and safety was forfeit by his own prior actions. Had he managed to kill the police officer who shot him; he would still have been in the wrong despite his fear of threat from the officer.

Atlas Shrugged gave us a world where, knowingly, the government and police are the thieves; stealing everything they could, threatening the very lives of the people and even killing them.

Ragnar used force to retake things that were stolen by force and deliver the value of those recovered items in as appropriate a manner as he was able. A job and a paycheck do not morally entitle anyone to steal or murder those they steal from.

I've wondered about that myself. Sure his objective was to take what was theirs, the company or government, as an object lesson and means of protest. Even so, those he had to face were intimidated, threatened, FORCED into compliance and into surrendering their cargo.

Ragnar only pirated ships carrying looted cargo, especially looted by governments. If I were a seaman I would not sign on to the crew of such a ship. BT

P.S. If I could not identify the cargo as "not loot" I'd walk the wharf until I found one. If not that, I would seek other work.

JG answered that: "When someone tries to deal with me by force I answer him.....with FORCE!!!!!!!

Very unequivocal !!! BT

If you are pulled over by the police, you may have
inadvertently been doing something to the detriment
of the safety of the other people on the road; I do not think that simply being pulled over gives you the
right to shoot the cop.

It is true that the roads ought to be privatized, but until they are, you are not the only taxpayer/victim of the government.

In any argument, once the use of force is introduced, the person introducing it is automatically wrong.

My greatest threat hasn’t been thugs, but government people. They don’t want a dime. They want big money. At what point do I just say NO ? $1000, $10,000, $100,000

You believe that "social pressure" is a greater problem than the threat or application of actual physical violence? I'm not sure what kind of non-violent social pressure you mean, but I can't think of any example which would inspire me to agree with this statement.

you ask questions when a gun is pointed in your face?

I am what most in this forum would call and independent, I do not vote for something because one party or another says it is what is good, I look at the issue and weight the long term results before casting a vote. Still I am also an extreme Constitutional law believer. IT is stated: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Now I am maybe no lawyer, but necessary to keep is more than a right. So all that being said there is a point to standing up to the thieves and terrorist in the world even if it cost you your life. WWII was the greatest generation because they stood up and were ready to die for what was right, our current military members deserve our respect for being willing to do so.