The Common Core cluster F

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 4 months ago to Education
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Here is the blueprint for the progressive takeover of the children of this country. It behooves us all to stop it, or start homeschooling. School districts and states need to get off the teat of the Federal Govt.
it's only too clear what happens when they become involved in areas they don't belong.
SOURCE URL: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/common-core-curriculum-educations-final-frontier/


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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 4 months ago
    The following quote on parents, children, and education comes from the Communist Manifesto. Marx to Dewey to the NEA to Common Core to you.

    "Do you charge us with wanting to stop the exploitation of children by their parents? To this crime we plead guilty.

    But, you say, we destroy the most hallowed of relations, when we replace home education by social.

    And your education! Is not that also social, and determined by the social conditions under which you educate, by the intervention direct or indirect, of society, by means of schools, etc.? The Communists have not intended the intervention of society in education; they do but seek to alter the character of that intervention, and to rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.

    The bourgeois claptrap about the family and education, about the hallowed correlation of parents and child, becomes all the more disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labor."

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      Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago
      Are you being ironic, or do you have a problem with comprehension? Karl Marx was saying exactly the same thing you are: modern society is destroying the family. For his complaint that children are "articles of commerce and instruments of labor" you can put the hand-wringing here about "parents as ATMs" raising children to be consumers.

      The "home education" he opposed is only different in detail from the "home education" you dislike. In other words, you and Marx both disliked the homes for not teaching the children what you (and he) regarded as important.

      Television has been with us for 70 years. All along people complained about kids watching "too much television" but here we sit at our computers... It is to our age what books were the Renaissance. And in those days, people complained about those who "read too many books," rather than living a "real life."

      What I perceive in this thread is the third aspect of conservative agenda: anti-intellectualism. Conservatives who saw one movie and maybe read one book once through, have no interest in epistemology or metaphysics. They want to blame Pres. Barack Obama for everything wrong in the world, but have no opinion on whether you always have to exclude measurement when you form a concept. They complain about education, but have no idea what a concept is.
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      • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
        I don't usually come in and lash out at anybody. The most is to ask to explain a certain perspective.

        I am now going to break that rule here. I have grown quite weary of seeing you go off on self aggrandizing rants, fawn over someone who might agree with you, but then lash out against anyone who does not.

        The childish playground bully tactics are not appreciated, by posters or other commenters. Name calling because someone doesn't agree with you just places you squarely in a spoiled child category in my view. Leave the pettiness off the forum, or no one will play.
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          Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago
          You think that I am a bully. I think that you have a gang. Minus 4 for me; Plus 6 for you. I said before that the conservatives here follow the high school cafeteria model of social media. Give yourselves a group hug.

          "Individualism" and "collectivism" are not just political philosophies. They are what Jane Jacobs called "Systems of Survival" i.e., how you get along in the world. You warn me that if I criticize other people's ideas that I will stand alone; but I already do.

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          • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago
            the comment you lost points for started out questioning someone who has a post graduate degree, their ability to comprehend. you may disagree in this post, but you insist on throwing out wild ass accusations without backing them up with facts. This is why you lost points.
            President Obama is a socialist, whose agenda is to destroy most of what this country was founded on. That's a fact. Every time that is brought up, one does not need to provide a detailed thesis backing that assertion or the consequences of socialist policies. There have been extensive posts on Common Core in here, including a post about Mr. Jebb Bush backing it. You are choosing to ignore evidence already presented.
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          • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago
            I have no such "gang" as you put it. I don't force anyone here to espouse any opinions I may have. Theirs are from their own experiences, etc. that they choose to feel as I do, well, that's their choice; I have not coerced them into making them.

            I also so not name call. Anybody. I don't disparage them in a public forum. If I disagree, I use tact. Your opinions are your own. I respect that. I don't respect infantile diatribes.
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      • Posted by $ johnrobert2 11 years, 4 months ago
        Mike, Mike. Almost all of us here are not anti-intellectual. We simply think that fuzzy thinkers become too abstruse in their suppositions and solutions. Most of us live in a concrete world, with concrete problems, and are used to solving them with concrete solutions. Granted, none of us are perfect and we don't always see the totality of the threads we have woven into our solutions but we work from a basis of common sense and proven foundational bases. The premises on which this country was founded are being eroded. It might be well to remember the words from George Washington's first inaugural address, "The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself hath ordained." This message was hidden in the foundation stones of St Paul's Chapel at Ground Zero ands not found until the towers fell and cracked the foundation.
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        • Posted by $ winterwind 11 years, 4 months ago
          OK, this has only happened to me a total of about 8 times in the last 20 years.

          I had to look up the meaning of abstruse.
          It wasn't bad, because the dictionary [the fat one that lives under the office work table] gave me "incomprehensible", "esoteric" and "difficult to understand" in the definition, which fit your use perfectly. [I did know the Latin, though]

          johnrobert, I award you 10 word geek points. Use them well.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 4 months ago
        Saul Alinski Rules For Radicals Rule #5 ; "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." This is all you are, Mike. Most of us in the Gulch think Reason is man's most important weapon. Especially against people like you. Go away Mike.
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  • Posted by kfaye 11 years, 4 months ago
    I am blessed to have a strong academically conservative school for my children as they are in lower and middle school currently. If it wasn't for our school we would be homeschooling no doubt!
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    • Posted by kfaye 11 years, 4 months ago
      Strong academically, conservative school...Meaning Strong academically with conservative values. My apologies for lacking proper grammar, I am a product of public school that didn't cover grammar. MikeMarotta. Not Sit down and shut up.
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      • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 4 months ago
        I aint that good at that grammar thing but I got it. You are lucky kfaye. I was fortunate enough to live in one of the best school districts in our area. I didn't realize it until I went to college and saw how far behind the other students were. Best of luck to you and your kids.
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      Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago
      "Academically conservative." What does that mean? Sit down, shut up, and do as you are told? Montessori methods are experimental and interactive. Over 100 years old now, they, too, might be called "conservative."
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      • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago
        interesting angle, but I've been a visitor to two Montessori schools in the US, and they're not completely following the method. Lots of focus on sharing and draconian rules on what you can bring to lunch and for snack. Although you can work on projects independently (many of which are based on erroneous premises "save the rain forest" puzzles) for periods of time, everyone comes together for "circle" in which emphasis is on socially accepted behaviors and plenty of socialist thinking. That, of course, would be on a school by school basis.
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      • Posted by $ johnrobert2 11 years, 4 months ago
        kf may be referring to the academically conservative curriculum which would, more than likely, teach by proven methods, not the experimental claptrap which seems designed to obfuscate, instead of make clear. You may have seen something floating around which takes a page out of a math book from ca. 1900. The problems were concrete and related to teaching the child how to cope with every day problems associated with life at that time. Granted, the times have changed from those but the underlying premise of teaching children hard and fast mathematical skills hasn't. I've been a 'victim', several times, of watching, and waiting, for one of younger geniuses' trying to make change without having the advantage of a cash register which tells them what to do. Skills, skills, skills.
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    Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago
    1. This is from UTAH, not Massachusetts or Illinois. So, the deluded politicians who empower progressive teachers to pump children's heads full of lef twing propaganda are apparently conservatives.

    2. Myself, as a writer, I appreciate the fact that this lesson plan shows children how OTHER PEOPLE use emotionally-laden words to manipulate their opinions. It works both ways.

    3. Remember that Hillary Rodham started her political career in Youth for Goldwater. You have no way to predict what this child or that will learn from this lesson or from some other.
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    • Posted by lmarrott 11 years, 4 months ago
      Being from Utah I say I think my state is overall doing well for itself.

      We have a fairly large movement against common core here (www.utahnsagainstcommoncore.com) and I hope we are successful. Last year when I was first learning about common core I had a hard time finding actual information and facts. However this year many of my kids papers have a "Common Core standard x.x.x.etc" on them and it is horrendous. I found a video yesterday showing a Language Arts (I think this has already been referenced) which made me sick.

      I'm am submitting forms to opt my kids out of the common core testing and tracking and trying to educate people I know to do the same. I'm also working to influence our politicians to get rid of it as well.
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    • Posted by $ johnrobert2 11 years, 4 months ago
      Utah is not monolithically conservative Mormon. It has been reported SLC has a very large gay population. (raised right eyebrow) So, any place can have a population which is contrary to the normative. Even Austin has conservatives and Libertarians. I'll bet there are even some Tea Partyers there.
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