Birth of a Nation - The CalExit Referendum
Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 10 months ago to Politics
Some Californians want Hitlery to rule them so badly they are proposing secession.
Let them go, and let them take the northeast corridor with them. All hail Empress Hitlery!
Let them go, and let them take the northeast corridor with them. All hail Empress Hitlery!
SOURCE URL: http://www.libertyunbound.com/node/1643
Restoring states' rights as intended by the 10th amendment should give California as much freedom to hang itself as needed, without the turmoil of secession. They're driving people and businesses out at a record rate as is (140,000 more legal residents left last year than arrived). San Francisco is a pig sty, and Los Angeles is becoming property of the drug cartels, so I hope the idiots enjoy their fate.
At that point what is the most likely scenario?
1. The US allows such an Action,
2. The Rep of CA allows it's citizens to actually patition such an action,
3. Some other country gets involved
4. Other actions
5. No such petition will be generated.
What do you people of the Gulch think would happen?
6. Legalize Marijuana and no one cares any more.
Thanks Freedomforall for your post . Consider the Mexican Americam War , the treaty signed gave California to the USA. If Calexit occurs the treaty is null and void. Then the golden bear becomes the golden eagle with a snake in its talons.
Yet, I think for the most part, the LEGAL immigrants have a strong work ethic. Unfortunately they also adhere to authoritarian types of religious beliefs.
Yikes! That's roughly half the length of Trump's wall whereas the Californian-Mexican line is almost nothing in comparison.
Y'all just gotta know those illegals are gonna keep on comin' whether the Pelosian People's Paradise becomes a part of Mexico are not.
Before that, bet the succeeded sheeple of Commune California would elect The Senile One as their addled El Presidente.
Whoa! Something popped into old dino's dangerous mind~
California has a bear. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of...
So does Russia!
https://www.google.com/search?q=Russi...
The bear fetish of southwestern United States (the Zuni for one) was considered a protector. In fact, the White Bear (also symbol of Putin's party, United Russia) was called "The Guardian of the West."
And in some ways, that Russian Bear acted as a bulwark, protecting the people of Europe from invasions from the East: Mongols and other savage raiders.
I wasn't being at all as trivia picky about the respective bear symbols as you are.
http://triviatoday.com/coupons/
Sometimes Trivia will actually ask a hard question.
Oh, sorry about Dumbo's photo.
The west coast ports problem will require taking back the Panama Canal that we gave away. I am sure a deal can be made when an aircraft carrier is parked out in the Gulf.
Other than that I really don't see much of a problem - cut them loose!
Ayn Rand will be smiling and saying, "I told you so."
According to Wikipedia(1) they recieved $343.7 billion in federal aid, but according to http://USGovernmentrecenue.com (2) California added $334.4 billion to the Government.
Any reasonable person would look at this and decide that a deficit of $9.3 billion in one year being covered by doing little more than remaining in a group you don't entirely like would be not a great price to pay.
Then again deficit spending being what it is and Cali already being in debt a great deal, perhaps they won't mind shouldering that burden.
I'm of the mind we should support their withdrawal, if they so decide. I would hate to lose California from the union for many reasons, but I believe an independent California would collapse and the lesson learned by it's failure would not be lost on all.
Not the best references, but my connection is poor today and I'm sick.
(1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feder...
(2) http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/fe...
Edit:
I failed to mention the impact of interstate commerce, loss of a significant entertainment industry, loss of national corporations with branches and headquarters in California, increased travel restrictions and new border control, and a ton of other larger and smaller economic augmentations caused by a seperation of a state from the union that would all impact the numbers. It would be one heck of an experiment.
But maybe I would want to carve out the proposed State of Jefferson, with an extra eastern corridor toward Idaho. That would give us land enough to develop a seaport to replace Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle.
A rational national leader might want nothing to do with California. But these are irrational national leaders we're talking about. They want that territory back, and only because they once stood on it, until Zachary Taylor and such able officers as Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. Jackson took it away from them. They're almost as bad as the Muslims when it comes to taking it as a personal insult that anyone else has the right to stand on territory they, as an ethnic group, once owned.
Many of those people who would not wish to be part of Mexico, live, I imagine, in the proposed State of Jefferson. The rest could move.
ority in California, who just want to live their lives
without being ganged up on by a bunch of statists?
I don't think it should be allowed, if it can be pre-
vented legally.