The Most Dangerous Game
Posted by Seer 7 years, 10 months ago to Philosophy
I wondered if any Gulchers had ever read this short story by Richard Connell. I read it (in my "younger days") and found it to be a thought provoking essay on human conflict and human nature. I wonder if the American vs Russian adversaries are allegorical as respects capitalism vs. communism.
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I didn't see the "normalizing" --whatever that means--of brutality and cruelty. On the one side, there was a man, a human, bored with hunting prey that were no longer challenging. In a way, for him, the sport was no longer satisfying, so to improve the risk-taking, perhaps, he could feel he had only accomplished his end (the pleasure of the hunt and outwitting the prey) by pursuing an animal on his own level.
On the other side, there is a man whose only end was in surviving. So the question becomes, who is more likely to expend energy in using the most efficient means of "winning." Whose drives, whose ability to reason is going to outwit the other's?
I didn't see "brutality" as such. It was all about the game for Zaroff. The game became the end, not vanquishing the prey.
There are men who play the game for the "play" itself, as well as for its objective. The fulfillment of those drives evolved of necessity.
I'm pretty sure the kids are taught that as long as it is for "the greater good" then it is moral.
I can also say anyone who can not, or will not, judge another, even himself, has not the prerogative to tell me what's right and what's wrong!
What I take from it today is there is slways someone ready to make others their servant or victim. Occasionally the role gets reversered and the servant/victim becomes the master. In that case they usually become a carbon copy of the original master. This applies to societies as well as individuals.
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There are many examples of the hunter becoming the hunted. I recall a movie called Master and Commander, when Lucky Jack, the captain of and English vessel, was trying to lure in the greatly superior French merchant vessel. The ships doctor noted to Jack, "you are the hunter, Jack."
You are so smart.
I started thinking abut some other aspects of human nature, you might find interesting, this afternoon. And that is that Europeans, and people of the West, seem to be a more direct, straightforward people than those of the East. Compare castles to mosques, scimitars to broadswords. Maybe eastern peoples delight in discovering more indirect ways of solving problems. The world can certainly do with all kinds.
So maybe Lucky Jack had some Oriental mentality working for him.
Interesting point. European history is, if anything, brutal beyond compare. Lest art in the broad sword than the scimitar. A European castle is, if anything, sheer brutality, compared to the mosques. So, you could be right!
I am then reminded of how Britain used opium to control the east.
Sort of a Divine Justice.
What it implies about human nature, masculine nature, to be more precise, is priceless. The challenge and the risk-taking become a fulfillment in itself. In some ways, like any competitive endeavor, the competition becomes the end, if one is not careful.
It does delve into the motivations and psychology of antagonists and combatants. Remains a good story even in todays world.
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I suppose that is where "strategy" comes in.
If, indeed, there has been infiltration---trolling---those involved would certainly not care for the world to know about it, wouldn't you think?
If you wish to make that known (assuming its true) then you need some evidence. All you have done is to offer an unsupported opinion based upon hearsay. I have not seen any specific evidence of statist bias on the part of the admin of this site. Everyone who posts here probably has some kind of bias. Could some of them be agents of the deep state? Certainly that is possible. But to make an accusation as you have you need evidence, not hearsay. Of course, you are welcome to offer your rational objective opinions ;^)
It was a test. You see, I AM Seer.
Thank you for bringing it up, nevertheless. +1
You brought up a good point, I think. Zaroff's need (?)---drive, desire---to eliminate boredom overrode any respect he should have had for the "right" of another to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Maybe that should be "the right of another OF life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
I always found this interesting: the word "routine"---in its meaning of "fixed" and thus conducive to boredom---is derived from "route"---a pathway. So someone tire of routine is looking for a new path.
The other thing that strikes me in this story is Zaroff's cowardice (he had the only firearms and he had hounds). If he was truly a competitor of like vs like, he would be seeking to take on the mind of man. This isn't a chess match of intellectual superiority at all, but a rigged contest based on superior tooling and arbitrary limitations. To me, Zaroff is a weakling - able only to dominate others through situation.
An old Cossack song 'Oy da ne vecher" is part of Russian culture. You look it up on You Tube and it is sung everywhere in Russia.
It is why he does the things he does: back-stabbing, trying to impose his own reality, eliminating competition, sticking it to the other side, reliance on words.
I did look it up. Interesting song, interesting bit of history.
I myself have had more than my share of falls due to excessive pride---some quite ingenuous---but it has never made me pessimistic. Made me a little more humble, maybe!
There was a quote in one of my cipher puzzle books, can't remember the author, but he says pretty soon, it becomes all about the game, and not necessarily about the object.
It could work for anything: a business, a football game, politics...
You might ask then why kill the prey, if it's only about the game. The answer is, that in this way the prey, because his very survival is at stake, will use all wits at his command, and unrelentingly. Sorta like the Courtarena duel in "The Dosadi Experiment" by Frank Herbert.
I believe Connell's story is about the "game" itself. Maybe that's why it interested me more than just a tale of men after men.
"The Naked Prey" sounds interesting. I'll look up the synopsis.
This is where I initially learned of the Cossack peoples, and no doubt it did set an initial impression on me at age 14. Even then I was not so naive to believe an entire peoples could be characterized so narrowly. However, I am no longer 14, and have evaluated Cossacks, muslims, christians, well-meaning liberals, republicans, libertarians and others quite thoroughly.
I am disappointed "naivete" popped up so early. It is an inappropriate word for you to use about me based on our handful of interactions here.
A book you might enjoy is "The Cowboy and the Cossack" by Claire Huffaker.
I have several Russian friends. Two very close friends around here, as well as a young woman that worked for me at one of our divisions a while ago. I was her mentor for a year in our mentorship program.
My good close Russian friend introduced me to a Russian immigrant who was a senior person in the Russian space agency. We visited him in VT. We had to drink some infused vodka before we could talk. I am a pro-drinker, so this was just fine. He was explaining a technique he was skilled in a wrote books on to solve problems, any problems. I was skeptical, but did some research when I got back. He was explaining TRIZ, which I find very cool.
In my experience, Russians are pretty sharp people. I hypothesize they have honed analytical skills due to the more limited computing resources they had (perhaps there are other reasons as well). They seem like hard working, smart people to me, of course, my cross section is small.
Infused with what? Marijuana? Doesn't sound good/
The onion one was ok but not my favorite, as much as I like onions and garlic, but the berry one was great.
I'm working on a theory that perhaps laws and regulations (where needed) should address means and methods, rather than objects. But I don't think it is going to go anywhere.
You strike me sometimes, kh, as a type of Pollyanna, always looking at the good side of human nature.
I imagine the entire world is laughing its fool head off, don't you.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russ...
I couldn't read it; the man's a complete mess.