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What is the definition of a "HATE CRIME"?

Posted by mminnick 8 years, 4 months ago to News
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Many people are talking about the rise in "Hate Crimes" since Mr. Trump was elected. Exactly what is a "Hate Crime"
It seems to me if you commit a violent crime against anyone, a certain degree of hate was involved. I know that this term came about because certain violent crimes were committed because of a persons race, ethnicity, religion and/or sexual preference. But, IMHO, all Crime involves somne degree of hate toward the victims. White on Black, Black on White, anybody on anybody.
For example in NYC there were 64 "hate crimes" since Mr. Trump was elected. does that men there were 64 additional crimes that were reported that met the requirements bor gbeing a hate crime or there were 64 crimes reported in the normal course of events theart ere construed to meet the definition of hate crime?
Another questions in this area that has puzzled me, but I haven't been able to find a clear answer to: If a white person attacks a black, it is generally taken to be a hate crime until shown not to be. If a black person attacks a white, what is it counted as? A hate crime or just a crime? NOT trying to start a huge race debate here, just looking for an answer to this puzzling (to me) question.


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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 4 months ago
    Generally, the perpetrator does not hate the victim. Obviously, the perpetrator has no regard for the victim: criminals do not consider the victim at all. They are concerned only with their own goals. Largely, those are immediate goals, range of the moment. Shoplifting and other white collar crimes are somewhat different from that in that they are planned. White collar criminals (including shoplifters) are planfully competent actors who calculate their gains and risks. But they do not hate their victims.

    Prejudice is offered as an excuse or justification. (Those are different, offered by different kinds of criminals.) But with criminals, we have a basic problem in their own almost complete lack of self-awareness. They are not thinkers. If they were thinking, they would not be criminals. But they do have mental processes, even as they are largely unaware of whatever is going on "inside."

    And it is not just them. Any pollster will tell you that people say what they think someone else wants to hear. Working in real estate, I learned the saw: "Buyers are liars."

    Perhaps the largest lacuna in the law is ignoring the fact that rape is a hate crime. See my comments in the discussion on Hip Hop:
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
    and
    https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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    Just for reference on topic:
    The Hate Crime Statistics Act (28 U.S.C. § 534) defines hate crimes as “crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, gender or gender identity, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity.” The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) measures crimes perceived by victims to be motivated by an offender’s bias against them for belonging to or being associated with a group largely identified by these characteristics. For a crime to be classified as a hate crime in the NCVS, the victim must report at least one of three types of evidence that the act was motivated by hate: the offender used hate language, the offender left behind hate symbols, or police investigators confirmed that the incident was hate crime. Bureau of Justice Statistics here: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&ti...

    The FBI agrees: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civil...
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    • Posted by LarryHeart 8 years, 4 months ago
      Speech in anger is not hate. There is no evidence of prejudice under the temporary insanity of anger. Reasoning is overwhelmed. The most one can say is it is offensive. If someone says in anger 'I hate you" like a teenager say to their parents or classmates or when jilted, is that evidence of hate. Or "I will kill you". Is that evidence of criminal intent?

      Unfortunately these people who came up with Hate Crime are terrible judges. They have no real standards to go by. Solution: Make standards that Congress and all regulations must go by. Oh wait there is a constitution. Oh wait no their isn't. There is only a piece of paper that more judges have erased and changed to allow the illogical and power hungry to write on it anything they want. We need a standard of American Mores to guide us.
      See http://02f8c87.netsolhost.com/WordPre...
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