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The coming reckoning

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Short video: where we are as a nation. Were truer words ever said?
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    Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 1 month ago
    In spite of everything the media says, the truth is I believe Trump, a goal oriented businessman, is the one that will carry out what he says he'll do. I have no faith whatsoever in lifelong career politicians and there isn't any other that has any chance of beating Hillary which is the most corrupt lifelong career politician to date to ever run for the highest office. Like Truman said, the only way to become rich in politics is if you're a crook. We've seen that happen many times in our own lifespan.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      Trump doesnt have to do this. He has a great family, business, and he has worked hard and successfully to overcome many obstacles. Hillary and the media have just tried to destroy him, as they would destroy ANYONE who posed a threat to their power. Its that simple.
      If Trump loses, he will be the last one to stand up to the establishment, in my opinion. What he has gone through will be a message to people coming in the future- leave the establishment alone until they crash on their own.

      Even Rand thought that and you can see it in AS. Before John Galt rose, the establishment had to crash. Today, its just too strong- kept strong by the hard work of us citizens.

      I think that it would be fitting for all of us to reduce our expenditures by 10% if Hillary wins- starting Jan 20. The less we spend, the less we need to make, and the less taxes they get.
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    • Posted by bbuckeye 8 years, 1 month ago
      No one will do what is said during the campaign because after election the reality of the political world takes hold and opposing forces prevent action.
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      • Posted by 8 years, 1 month ago
        They can try but our nation's unique separation of powers mostly prevents them. Which is a good thing.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
          I used to believe the separation of powers was a way for compromise and restraint on the 3 bodies of govt. pushing their idealology. Today the power has been seized by the executive branch. All to eliminate Liberty and Justice from all. Thanks RINO's and careerist Generals for not fulfilling their oath.
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  • Posted by ferrariwarner 8 years, 1 month ago
    Politics, every form of it, is a one way street to ultimate failure. It's way past the time to try slowing down the inevitable. There are no political solutions. A real free market economy and the realization that socialism is a nefarious form of slavery must be recognized.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      ABSOLUTELY. At this point the system must be allowed to simply freefall on its own. What we can do is try to anticipate the actions the government will take to protect itself, and beat them to the punch by protecting ourselves from them.

      When the government minions arent paid, the system will fall of its own weight.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
    Let's hope that the voters are listening and believing.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      Some are for sure. Trump gets my vote this time.
      As an aside, I am pretty much thinking that anyone who would vote for Hillary this time doesnt deserve to be my friend any more, and I will cull them out. Who needs to "profile" and face PC hell, when a really good way to categorize people is whether they vote for Hillary or not.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
    Breaking the grip of the global oligarchy is going to be a challenge. If the oligarchs sense defeat by Presidential election, expect to see sitting elected members of Congress subjected to blackmail and threat. If Congress defies the pressure, expect to see a resort to violence, with the judiciary targeted for assassination. That pattern has been successful in inhibiting third world governments that have attempted to institute democratic reform.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      I think the establishment is simply strong for a frontal attack. They must we weakened first. I am suggesting people cut back their purchases by 10% from any outlet where the government profits. In addition, try to buy as many services for cash from people who dont vote for the establishment (thats easy this time- they have to NOT vote for Hillary).
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    • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
      Hi, Doc99:
      What you have posted labels you a Conspiracy Monger. Never mind that history and even current events show the truth of your statement. The thoughts about your contention run pretty much to "that could happen in a 3rd world country but not here in the USA." If Mrs. Clinton is elected how long will it be until we are a 3rd world country?
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
        It's ironic that many of the suspicions of "conspiracy freaks" have been proven true lately. While I don't expect to see any reptilian aliens in charge, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the most shocking conspiracy projections come about, especially under another President Clinton.
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        • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
          The labeling of "conspiracy freaks" and associated "reptilian aliens" just stifles any consideration of the issue. Many Secret organizations populated by the malignant fascist govt. officials aren't social clubs. The irony is that
          With control of the money ,the education, the state dept. , the media, the FBI, the IRS that people still think it is not a plan or ,
          Oh my I'll say it a conspiracy (definition plot, plan, scheme, subterfuge, deception)
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        • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
          I doubt if they'll come out under her administration. Perhaps in a "disreputable" publication where it can be discounted as trash.
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          • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
            Or as Wikileaks outbursts, with claims of Russian/Chinese skullduggery while ignoring the content of the leaks.
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            • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
              I am puzzled by Wikileaks. They reveal the most damaging stuff against Clinton but no one pays anymore attention to it than if she wears Depends. Can the Republicans be as lousy at campaigning as they appear to be? I guess they are the political version of "The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight."
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              • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 1 month ago
                Herb7734WFA,
                The Republicans had the ball teed up after the last 8 years and they can't field a candidate. Shame on them but it does fit into an organized plan to destroy our constitutional republic. The brain washing is complete. Bill Casey said "Our job is complete when everything the American public believes is false"
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              • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
                Nearly all media outlets are shameless propaganda mills, bought out by wealthy globalists. I stopped watching them when I realized they were all speaking from the exact same script. Most are so eager for access to the White House they dutifully repeat what the WH press office prints out. That's why you aren't hearing anything about Wikileaks revelations except through alternate media.
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                • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
                  I realize that, but I'm not the one who has to have the message aimed at. I realize that the media is in collusion with the collectivists but there are inventive ways to get the message out, such as social media.
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                  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 1 month ago
                    The Wikileaks disclosures are flooding the social media, so many are getting the message. However, since the MSM control most of what we hear, it's easy to think no one cares. It's really discomfiting to see that there are thousands of non-citizens registered to vote (local media in Colorado, and that's repeated in other states, thanks to motor voter laws), but see in big print in the NYT that concerns about voter fraud are "nonsense."
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 1 month ago
    Like it or not, we have reached the point where the one question is, do we want to save the Constitution, because, no one running but Trump can do that. Hillary feels it gets in her way to be Ms Dictator. She lies and tells blacks she will get them better schools, while coming from a CFR meeting where she admits their goal is to dumb down the schools! We are headed fro a "Brave New World" setting, and Trump is the only one who will appoint people to slow it down, as a total fix is not even close.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      Trump has my vote. If Hillary wins, she will never be MY president, and I hope whatever is left of congress stands in the way of everything she tries to do.
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      • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 1 month ago
        Obama, from day one referred to citizens as them and us, those who voted fro him. Division from the beginning. Hillary studied the same Alinsky playbook, and will she us ever as "deplorables". But don't count on Congress for resistance, they have not acted thus fare to stop Obama, even on giving control of the Internet to the UN. Speaker Ryan is married to a Hillary clone Democrat who is pals with Soros and voted for Obama. Even his prior girlfriend was a rabid liberal. He does not wear the pants at home, so is not likely to stand up to anything Hillary offers. The RINOs are in bed with the globalists, with plans to be the special ones, while the rest become minions in a global gulag..
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
          Hillary with her "stronger together" slogan. Who are they stronger together against except the people who don't support her. I take it as a declaration of class warfare.

          Now we know who the enemies are- those who support Hillary. Makes it easier for me to select friends actually. Those who support Hillary are excluded from the list- period
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          • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 1 month ago
            It is sad really, they are NOT together, as Hillary is looking down at them, and they are not allowed to look hr in the eye, one of her rules. Sad so many people who can't reason and are brainwashed as the CFR wants. Worse, they will take us all down with their stupid choice! I am not happy with them, but I have won some over. It takes weeks of explaining, but it can be down, butswo little time left.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
              Its exhausting when they come up with things like "Trump will push the nuclear button...." when thats the last thing HE would do. She is more likely to go to war with Russia
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              • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 1 month ago
                Completely agree. All she has to do is have one of her seizures, and there go the nuke button. With her forgetfullness, she might even both the code. Now WikiLeaks is shut down, by whom, Hillary's mafia? No one even knows if he is alive. I think the only one left to tell us the truth is Russia, I trust them more than the Clinton crowd. She did approve Bill selling the uranium, and what is that used for? Proof of her profit over safety stand.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
                  I trust that it was Clinton who interrupted Wikileaks, either through threats or just cutting the wires. I suspect they will be up and running shortly, unless its been a hit operation. Assange and Snowden are our friends, not our enemies
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                  • Posted by 8 years, 1 month ago
                    WikiLeaks up and running Monday pm according to reports.
                    Now it's reported a State Department Deputy (under Kerry's watch) tried to bribe the FBI to declassify a highly classified Hillary email (to protect her) in return for added overseas slots for FBI people.
                    The corruption that pervades our government is far, wide and deep; Gingrich said tonight it's "100 times worse than Watergate."
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                  • Posted by $ Stormi 8 years, 1 month ago
                    Well said! They are our enemies, as are people like McCain and Ryan, who do not share our middle class values. Hillary demands those in the WH never look her in they eye, they must look to the floor when passing her. Who the H--- does she think she is?Is this really what blacks want to see looking out for them. Is this what women want, this is not the first woman president to be proud of. I want someone who is smart, honest, and able to relate. She never has been able to, but says Trump won't, which is projection of her own crappy personality. I am Hillary's age, slightly higher IQ, and I like to converse with all kinds of people -Hillary talks at them, like a sledgehammer. Is this what union guys want running their country?
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    • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
      We are between a rock and a hard place. But, we know what a rock is, and we don't know the nature of the hard place as yet. Reagan had the same kind of fight as Trump, but at least he had the record as governor of California.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 1 month ago
    What I think is ironic is that reckoning very likely is going to come, but I think it's going to come in spite of whomever takes office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. At one point, I thought that this nation could be turned around policy-wise. I no longer believe that - based mostly on the unwillingness of the Republican Party to uphold Constitutional values and the determination of the Progressive Democrats to destroy the Constitution. I wish that our Republic could be saved and that Donald Trump could do it, but I simply think that ship was scuttled in harbor when Obama beat out Mitt Romney. I think Ted Cruz might have made a go at it, but Trump's open disdain for Cruz's "vote for the Constitution" speech at the Republican Convention told me all I need to know about Donald Trump: that he has no concern for the Constitution.

    I think that our own policies are going to destroy us. Our economic policy of inflation and manipulation devalues our currency more and more every year and destroys bit by bit our power in the world economy. Our foreign policy of intervention to distract from scandals at home is a disgrace in every way. Our spending policy of buying things we can't afford and expecting our children and grandchildren to pay for it is in the words of Hypocrite #1 (President Obama) "irresponsible". And our moral policies which ignore the virtues our nation was founded upon invite the open scorn of nations around the world as well as bringing about the consequences of those actions.

    It absolutely is coming to a time of reckoning. But none of our politicians will be our savior. I am afraid that Atlas Shrugged just may become reality.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
    He is absolutely right on this. Its amazing to me that people would actually VOTE for Hillary, given what she is.

    I suppose those supporters just want to hop on the bandwagon of cronyism, hoping against hope that THEY will be able to enjoy the fruits of her power. Little do they know about human nature and the way the world works, but they will find out if she is elected.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
    Yes, what Trump says in the short video is true.
    Unfortunately Trump has no plan or intention to fix the problems that he refers to in this speech.
    "There is nothing that Trump won't do, no lie that Trump won't tell, to hold his prestige and power at our expense."

    I have wanted to hear these words spoken by an ethical candidate for a very long time. I would admire Trump for saying them if I thought he would remove the unworthy and traitorous from power and restore the republic to the size and power that existed when the Bill of Rights was written. Trump has stated no plan or intention to do so. Trump has proven by his actions and rhetoric that he is not worthy to be elected president. Hillary has proven by her actions and rhetoric that she is not worthy to be elected president.

    Trump is correct that this is a time of reckoning and the time for accepting and voting for the lesser evil is past. I can not accept, nor will I consent to be enslaved by Hillary or by Trump. The choice is clear and the candidate worthy of our votes is Gary Johnson.

    The real Trump has been removed from this abbreviated clip of the speech. If you want to see Trump the megalomaniac who is really interested in power for himself, not in a constitutional republic, watch the parts that were removed from this short clip. The entire speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBdft...
    Trump is not a man who can be trusted in the office of president.
    Arrogant, condescending megalomaniac.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
      I think you are totally wrong about Trump, as you know. To battle the establishment at this point in time takes a very strong and thick skinned person, which unfortunately for all of us, Johnson is not. The establishment would decimate him in a general election, and you know that.
      The establishment has to be weaker and fall from its own weight before a frontal attack can work. I remember the fall of Russia. It was the failure of the communist regime to pay its minions that brought it down. Before that, they just killed off any dissention.

      In America, the killing off is done by PC, massive media blitzes, and by relying on the groups of citizens who are not very educated, or who want to feed off the establishment.

      I would say that its too hard to "shrug" as in AS at this point in time. Wealth is concentrated in big corporations, not people like Hank Rearden and Dagny Taggart. Decisions are primarily made by committees, which would never "shrug". But we consumers CAN shrug by 10% without a lot of trouble. Most, if not all of us, can cut our expenditures by 10% and reduce the size of government by starving it. Keep that car a couple of years longer, dont move into that bigger house, dont waste food, stop going OUT to eat and cook at home, etc.

      10% shrugging would have a big effect on the economy. 50% would be impossible for most of us, but 10% is almost always possible without a substantial cut reduction in our lifestyle.

      A thought. In the meantime also, its education, not political efforts that will make a difference.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
        Yes, we disagree on trump. On johnson as well to some extent.
        A 10% consumer strike based on a well advertised principle of individual liberty would be very effective, but I can't estimate the unintended consequences.
        BTW, decimate means to reduce by 10 percent. It has been misused by the media for years as if it was a massive amount. Back in the days before that statist scum Lincoln authorized Sherman to use total war on civilians and their property, a decimation really was a big thing. It should still be, but governments are run by psychopaths who think nothing about murdering millions.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
          I am thinking of some way to indicate our collective distrust of the crony establishment. I like the idea of tying it to a well advertised principle of individual liberty. If Hillary wins, she will take her win as a vindication of her crookedness. She is already saying that her programs wont increase the national debt by a single dollar. The ONLY way to do that and further her "progressive" agenda is to wildly increase all forms of taxation. She does lie, so I am not sure which part she is lying about- no new taxes for middle class, or no further increases in national debt.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
            Several conservative states legislatures join together in a secession pact listing general terms (all considered unconstitutional under strict construction) any of which that will trigger secession by all the states into a confederacy. Enough of this rubbish statist defense. It has not worked. People must make the feds understand that the feds are the servants, not the slave masters.
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            • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
              Dont you think secession would result in armed conflict with Obama/Hillary just invading like they did in the civil war?
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              • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
                Such a multistate agreement would draw a constitutional line that reclaims states rights. Hitlery would have to take unconstitutional action before secession occurred.
                If Hitlery is as f%^&ing stupid as that statist looting slave-master Lincoln, then she could decide to violate the constitution and her oath of office. First, that would likely cause a lawsuit by the states to prevent Hitlery and the feds from taking that action at all and also an impeachment proceeding based on violation of her oath of office. If the so called conservatives in con-gress prove again to be cowards, then it is possible that the executive branch would attempt to get the military to carry out their unconstitutional plan and a military coup could be a possibility.
                You might also see hundreds of thousands of armed citizens moving to defend the people of the states who represent individual liberty.
                The people have been too patient, and consorting with the enemy must stop.
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                • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
                  Certainlyl possible. But remember that the establishment offers a lot of goodies to a lot of people and those would have to be voluntarily given up. Probably means that Romney's 47% would oppose secession because it would upset the status quo. There would be a period of adjustment that I suspect most people wouldnt want to risk at the present time. Once the state runs out of money and cant pay its minions, things would be different though.
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    • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 1 month ago
      freedomforall, we have two people vying for the office of president, based upon what has come out in the press who do you think is the better choice; no explanation required.
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      • Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 1 month ago
        You're right wiggys. These elections, it's a two horse race. Anyone else is filler, a distraction. Stein, nor Johnson nor the egghead I can't ever remember the name, Romney's patsy, cannot win, and I can't even imagine who's funding them.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
        There are 3 candidates for president in all 50 states. The only candidate that supports individual liberty, free markets, and constitutional law is Gary Johnson.
        Of the other two candidates, I conclude that either would be an unacceptable risk to liberty as president.
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    • Posted by Animal 8 years, 1 month ago
      "I would admire Trump for saying them if I thought he would remove the unworthy and traitorous from power and restore the republic to the size and power that existed when the Bill of Rights was written."

      Not me. Absolute power, once seized, tends to be passed on. And while the first Dictator may be a benevolent one, the successors rarely are - see Caesar Augustus.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
        I did not say I would admire Trump as a dictator benevolent or not. I said specifically:
        "he would remove the unworthy and traitorous from power and restore the republic to the size and power that existed when the Bill of Rights was written. "
        With a government reduced to minimal size and resticted from expansion again by the chains of the constitution Trump would not be a dictator because he would have very little power at all.
        But that is not Trump's plan because he is motivated by power for himself at the expense of the sovereign people. It is clear from his actions that he has little respect for others.
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        • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 1 month ago
          How will a man so manifestly unworthy to be POTUS possibly remove the unworthy? He is not in control of himself, much less a fit judge of others. He doesn't care about freedom or the republic but only seemingly about the ego of one Donald Trump. He shows no evidence of any understanding of freedom.

          How does putting a political incompetent in the most powerful political office in the world and a vindictive fellow at that make any sense at all?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 1 month ago
    Hillary will take the house. I do believe the election is rigged. I'm preparing for the coming disaster. The action of "going Galt" will occur down into the upper-middle class, I believe.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 1 month ago
    Trump is a very evil and flawed man. He is totally incompetent to be POTUS. He doesn't apparently have a politically astute bone in his body. He has alienated almost everyone he would need to work closely with in the position. Total FAIL.
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