... but zombies are real.

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 8 years, 5 months ago to Humor
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Laura Bohannon was an anthropologist who worked among the Tiv people of West Africa. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_B...)

Anthro 101 students know her famous essay, "Shakespeare in the Bush"
archived by Natural History magazine online here: http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/edit...

The men of the Tiv had a hard time with the idea that Hamlet's dead father could walk, talk, be seen, and be heard. They did not believe in ghosts. "But you can touch a zombi."

I was going to post this under Science because of a comment in "How False Information Becomes Fact." It is a cogent discussion, but in a few places, it seemed to me, that people who deny ghosts accept zombies. (And that would include me. Just sayin'... it helps to step back and look at your beliefs every now and then.)


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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 8 years, 5 months ago
    Now there's a fine intellectual thread for all you advocates of rational philosophy. Macabre memes, violent inclinations, apocalypse anticipation, political putrefaction.... hello, what is this--a headstart on Halloween?
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
    Zombies are real and living in Las Vegas (and other places probably). They wander around crossing the streets like the "walking dead" ( I call em walkers), with apparently no where to go and nothing to do but collect welfare checks. There were always bums, but it wasnt like it is now. They shuffle along with no apparent purpose. I sure hope they dont vote !!!
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    • Posted by Blanco 8 years, 5 months ago
      It is true that all zombies do live on free cheese handed out by the federal government.
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
        it has to contain soylent green made from discarded old people, though
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        • Posted by Blanco 8 years, 5 months ago
          Yeah, one of these days we're not going to be able to borrow enough money from other countries to afford to warehouse the elderly in nursing homes at $50,000 per year each. One can violate the laws of economics for a long time, but eventually they will come back to bite your butt.
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          • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
            Well, they started off making promises for the future (social security and medicare), then they took the tax money people put into those programs and spent it on other stuff, then they raised the employment and other taxes to partially cover the deficits, then they printed money and hid what they did through federal reserve shenanigans to avoid instant inflation. Then we found stupid countries that would accept the printed dollars in exchange for goods, hoping somehow that the dollars would not depreciate. I agree at some point, they will run out of ways to keep this going. China keeps its money low so that Americans will still buy wht they are making (cause its cheap). Eventually, they will want something of real value, and they will buy businesses and real estate over here, jacking up american prices and causing inflation. When they realize that that very inflation depreciates the value of the dollrs they own, they will start upping their prices in terms of dollars , which will increase our prices to our customers. Then our contrry goes into a real decline and all hell breaks loose.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 5 months ago
    When you're dead - guess what? You're dead!
    There are no vampires, werewolves, zombies, or magic. What all of those are is imaginative superstition. Everything that was magic is either trickery or misunderstood science. There are no beliefs without proof. Which is why vampire movies, etc. no longer are considered all that scary, but slasher films are. If you are fascinated by that sort of thing I suggest a show on Showtime or Netflix called "Penny Dreadful" which lumps all the 19th century scaries into a pot, stirs them up with a little pseudo-science and pours them out in parallel stories that are well written, fun, and oddly get you rooting for the ghoulies.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 5 months ago
      Actually, each one of those legends started out as some mixture of truth - usually involving some mixture of rare physiological conditions or personal pharmacology.

      Vampires were started between Vlad the Impaler (who was really just butchering Muslims to keep them from invading) and a few poor souls who were literally allergic to sunlight (extreme photosensitivity). Add in an overactive imagination and a fear of bats... There were also a few very twisted individuals (sadistic European royalty) who held such literally demented and demonic beliefs that a bath in the blood of virgins could prolong life.

      Witches? Those were people who would concoct hallucinogenic brews (which would typically contain deadly nightshade, hensbane, and other poisonous plants) in their cooking pots (cauldrons) and then "administer" them to themselves rectally using a broom. Their resulting hallucinations made it seem to them that they were flying.

      Werewolves? Also a known medical condition of extreme hair growth mixed with a popular fear of wolves in general and typical druids who worshiped the moon.

      Zombies and walking dead? This one actually gets psychological, as there is a very real and visceral fear associated with being controlled - even if one is dead. The inference is that one is no longer in control of one's own body, but that someone else through necromantic powers has torn you from your rest and tormented you away from a peaceful hereafter only to continue to torment the living.

      Ghouls? These have existed for much of time. They are people who eat other people, i.e. cannibals. Most were simply people who were starved - usually by their own governments - but there were also a few rare psychos who invented for themselves other reasons. Hannibal Lecter is only a more modern personification.

      Ghosts? These actually have a basis in reality. To some they are the spirits of the departed who appear to men in order to impart some kind of warning or message. To others they are the spirits of the departed who are haunted themselves by the actions of their own lives or some traumatic occurrence.

      Mummies? This one is actually pretty recent and revolves mostly around Egyptian mummies and the maladies which struck some archeologists (mainly those interested in the very public Tutankhamen discovery). Leverage that with the mystery of the ancient Egyptians and their beliefs and it gives the creatively-minded all kinds of interesting places to go.

      If you carefully look at each of these "supernatural" events, there is most certainly an element of Hollywood introduce to each, but each in turn originated from some real event or occurrence. If you want to look at the purely fantastical, look at science fiction to nearly every invocation of "aliens" invented. Whether it is Sigourney Weaver, Arnold Schwartzenegger, Wil Smith, or Ender Wiggin facing off, each incarnation of alien is in turn fairly ridiculous - even though they make for great stories.

      (PS - not me who -1'd you)
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