Weigh in on the New Atlas Shrugged Movie
Ayn Rand's masterpiece Atlas Shrugged is just under 1200 pages. And, no matter how hard we try, there is simply no way to squeeze it all into a single movie verbatim.
Now that preliminary work has begun on the new Atlas Shrugged movie, there are some tough decisions to be made before things can really get underway. One of which is, what storylines from the book would be considered not critical to Ayn Rand's message as a whole?
So, you tell us, what scenes can be left out and still result in a movie that does Rand's message justice?
Now that preliminary work has begun on the new Atlas Shrugged movie, there are some tough decisions to be made before things can really get underway. One of which is, what storylines from the book would be considered not critical to Ayn Rand's message as a whole?
So, you tell us, what scenes can be left out and still result in a movie that does Rand's message justice?
In any event, as I say in another comment, we're talking about putting this on a streaming service. First prize is to get it on Amazon Prime. Second prize is to get it on Hulu. Third prize, maybe the Lifetime Movie Club, or Showtime, or some such service.
I prefer NetFlix, Amazon Prime over Cable or Satellite but that choice is a balance between audience size and monetary return.
We must remember to realize that the more young progressive minds we can reach the greater the conversion to a true Founders republic will can ascertain.
Fight on Freedom Fighters...FIGHT ON!
That's where the balance comes in; we need to get as many 'good' souls together as possible to strengthen the resolve of this 'Great Experiment' know as these United States of America.
I do not know the answer; I believe no one truly does..but, which crossroads do you take?
That would argue for mini-series so that you know up-front what pacing to follow. Of course, the nature of television is that if they come back and say "give me more", few producers would say, "No, I told the whole story."
Besides, you would not shop this to CBS or NBC or ABC. Those guys are the Bertram Scudders of electronic media. You would shop it to HBO, Starz, Showtime, or maybe the A&E family of channels: either A&E or Lifetime. Or perhaps Hulu. Or, as I said, Amazon Video. And people would look forward to streaming it on their Roku or Amazon Fire TV devices, or onto their iPads or Android tablets.
Try to get each episode to stand alone dramatically with minor reference to the place in the big story.
Each should be worth watching, and give the message by being true to the theme.
Maybe there is no need to get to the end, there are many sub stories- 20th C motors, the tunnel crash, the big rail contract, the emptiness of academia, sabotage at Reardon Metal, the contribution to Friends of Social Progress, the train drivers v. their union, ..
'In a country not far away..'
Characters can't demand higher salary's after the 1st or 2nd season.
This process is a movie type production which the director runs the whole season; knowing their episode cut offs which are split out in the film room.
This form would make for a better show because the Actors remain 'strong' in their characters during the complete filming making for a much higher believability for the viewer; giving the series higher ratings.
It could take a '3 movie' filming which should last no more than 3 months each with a one month break [hopefully negotiated down to less time off to keep the 'flow' of the characters at a high level]
Hopefully halfway through, some actor for a vital character won't shrug the Shrug because he's not being invited to Hollywood libtard shindigs any more.
Since the book is divided into 30 chapters , it could be filmed in 3 seasons of 10 chapters each.
In my opinion, the setting should be kept as late 40s/early 50s. Trying to translate the metaphor of the railroad to a contemporary or future setting wouldn't have the impact. Filmed as a "period piece" gives enough psychological distance for the viewer to think about the ideas. It also provides a certain "romantic" atmosphere that draws people into the story (Think Casablanca or more recently, The Man in the High Castle).
There is obviously a big job in translating the novel with its long monologues into something more suited for the screen ("show don't tell), but I am guessing that there are any number of writers up to the task. And I am certain that there are good writers who are students of Rand so that the script could be written to be less didactic while still maintaining the essence of the philosophy.
This is the golden age of long-form TV and I have waited for this day since the late 70s when there was a rumor that Ted Turner was going to back a miniseries during the first flowering of multi-night television. (Think Roots and Shogun).
I am hoping that I won't have to wait 40 more years to see another attempt at bringing a high-quality version of Atlas Shrugged to life.
As to translating long monologues: you'll probably have to have several cuts throughout the speeches involved, especially the Great Speech. (You might even ask an actor to record it all for a special installment, licensed for separate streaming.) But--well, take Eddie Willers' dialogues with John Galt. Some of those you could translate into action--like Ragnar's raid on Orren Boyle's mill on the coast of Maine.
Does anyone really believe that any of the three movies was so bad that a complete remake is worthwhile?
They need to get those main characters from Part 2 to act in the new movie. That would be perfect for me.
Joan Carter also provides some insight in her eBook: http://amzn.to/2d3QmZm
Question: If you could choose ANY director for the new Atlas Shrugged movie, who would it be?
The first ride on the John Galt Line.
Dagny's entry into the coffee shop after her conversation with Akston. "I won't stop looking…" and the man she's looking for is sitting right there. I love dramatic irony. My eyes well up every time I watch this scene.
Rearden's first meeting with Leonard Small
Francisco's interaction with the party goers at James Taggart's wedding.
Dagny's conversation with Jeff Allen. I can feel her mind working, putting all the pieces together. Another case of damp eyes for me.
"What are your demands? Nothing,…."
Galt's meeting with Thompson.
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I also love the idea of a mini series....or a Netflix release, like House of Cards, but over at least three years.....or three "seasons"
I would have liked to have seen more of the transition of Dagny,s brother, and point out his level of corruption with the politicians and what it leads to. His marriage and subsequent decline of same, to me, is more important than the disintegration of Hanks marriage.
I would not identify John Galt as early in a new movie.
I think the early development of the problems were given short shrift in the trilogies. To reach the uninformed, they have to be shown more definitively what it is exactly that they are losing. They are losing their freedom to the government, and that is the most important concept to get across.
Lala land at the end is all fine and dandy for those that get there, but I don't think the trilogies identified strongly enough why they were compelled to leave after Galt comes and has his little chat with each of them. Maybe it can be shown in flashbacks. Their cumulative frustration and disgust with the government needs to be built up better before they finally say "screw this" and leave.
Keep up the good work!
I don't know whether it should be in the movie, but I liked those scenes in the book. They were addicted to Hank's gravy train yet contemptuous of him. It rang true for me.
Ayn Rand worked as an artist for many years to compose her masterpiece. Its sales are due not only to the "message", but also to the great novel-writing art that she displayed. Readers get emotionally involved in the story and that keeps them all the way through 1200 pages. It is the story of Dagny Taggart (and many other things, as you know).
"Updating" that story by reproducing it in the new medium of a 2 hr. movie is nonsensical pursuit. You should have already learned that in the three-part attempt. Would you try to "update" the Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel to a cellphone snapshot?
Learn from the great success of Downton Abbey. Find a top notch writer. Perhaps the same guy. Assemble a first class team of director, cinematographer, scenes and costumes designers. Then select a uniformly very good (not top Hollywood star! - they are too spoiled and already lefty indoctrinated) team of actors that are enthusiastic about the project and hungry to show what they can do. Then produce a similar series, maybe even over two seasons. Get the best experts to help you translate a great novel into a great moviesque show.
Is it risky? Of course. Is it expensive? Enormously. Is worth it? It is vitally important. We are talking about a best seller for more than a half a century.
That is all I can say. I wish I were a creative genius and accumulated billions. I would fund it gladly.
More on reasons by people who joined movement. Good luck! I like the mini-series idea!
I like this idea. I'm not sure how well it would fit into a movie, but suppose the script writers consulted with people who believe in self-sacrifice and altruism. Suppose they left it open so that supporters of altruism could watch it and think the altruists were right and it was just mismanagement that caused the gov't-managed system to fail.
I clearly do not agree with the altruists, but it's nice to have villains whose motivations you understand and some points you can sympathize with them on.
This would be a wide interpretation of AS. What I got from AS was "look at what happens if you take these bad ideas to an extreme."
I really like your idea of less 2-by-4 to the head, but I would not know how to make it work for AS.
What scenes do you think should have been shortened?
All three parts of the movie ought to have had the same cast. Can you imagine how unsatisfying watching the Godfather I, II, and III would be if the casts were all different in all three parts?
We are not asking for feedback on the Trilogy.
...sometimes you might find you get what you need.
Rudeness in disconnecting James during his phone calls. Yeah, he's a looter, but she could still treat him civilly. Acting in an uncivil way reduces the attractiveness of her character.
Throwing the porch furniture carelessly onto the lawn. There's never any excuse for trashing perfectly good stuff. If she doesn't want it any more, give it to someone who might appreciate it.
Dagny's calling for volunteers to take the first run on the John Galt Line.
Dagny's radio "confession" to her affair with Rearden.
Lillian discovering that Hank has divorced her with zero assets.
"Think Downton Abbey" !
This should be a series with the best possible writers and actors.
There will be an initial following...and eventually a growing and loyal audience.
Please: No 2-hour-length movie.
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