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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 6 months ago
    The mother is right ... and wrong.
    RIGHT:As a parent she should be able to choose whether to submit her child to indoctrination and whether to submit her to vaccination.
    WRONG:However, she is only one parent and she ignored the father's "equal" parental rights. (Rarely are the fathers rights considered equal unless it increases the power of government agencies, imo.)
    WRONG: The government is creating racist propaganda to justify the actions it is taking.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago
    I find it difficult to accept the idea that a parent can "kidnap" her own daughter over whom she has shared custody, and apparently had custody at the time of the alleged kidnapping...

    What was that gibberish about wanting her to learn about the Confederacy but not black history? The two are kinda, sorta somewhat linked, I would say.

    Is she also going to be taught Filipino history? Eskimo history? Asian history? And if so, why?

    I'd kidnap her to keep her out of preschool, period. A child has no business in school before the age of six.

    And anyone who claims that our schools are not indoctrination centers is either a complete idiot or a complete liar.
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    • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago
      When the father has partial custody, and the mother takes the child away so the father can't see the child, that qualifies as kidnapping.
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        Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago
        But the mother didn't take the child away so the father couldn't see the child; she took the child away so it couldn't be subjected to indoctrination at too early an age.

        She would have been just as justified if the father had been molesting the child; in a way, he was, by sticking her in preschool, he was molesting her mind.
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        • Posted by 10 years, 6 months ago
          That's idiotic. Preschool is not indoctrination. You're seriously starting to sound like one of those conspiracy theorists.

          And the mother's motivations are irrelevant. Even if she took the child away for reasons that had nothing to do with preventing the child from seeing her father, if the result is that the child doesn't see her father, then the mother is violating the terms of the court order, as well as the rights of the father.
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          • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago
            The hell it isn't.

            I sound like a conspiracy theorist?

            In the 1960s, Heinlein and his wife visited the Alma Ata collective farm in the Soviet Union. The schoolchildren there put on skits for the tourists. Some recited poems, some sang songs... Heinlein's wife spoke Russian; every last one of them dealt with the need to protect the revolution, or with the next five year plan.

            The children started school at 15 months of age, and afterwards saw their mothers perhaps 2 hours a day thereafter.

            While they were there, the U2 incident happened. Before the incident, everyone was relatively friendly and open with them. The night after, they were given the cold shoulder and treated rudely....
            Then the next day, after the government adopted the tolerant regret official response, everyone became friendly again.

            One night on the way to the opera, a group of Red Army cadets accosted them, all excited over the man they put in orbit.

            The next day, there were news reports of the unmanned capsule the Soviets lost, and their intourist guide looked them up to assure them that the cadets were wrong, that it was an unmanned capsule.

            Time and again governments have tried to control the minds of the population, from ancient times to present. This isn't conspiracy theory; this is just history.

            It's just that it's now our turn in the barrel.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 6 months ago
    Not sure what your comment is about.

    Should a parent allow others to determine what their children are subjected to? Including putting foreign substances in their bodies and foreign thoughts in their minds?

    Please don't misconstrue that as bigotry or racism. But don't parents have the right to choose to what their children are exposed? And if not, then who gets the right to determine? If you say the "state" then aren't you just another collectivist?
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    • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago
      Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why the state gets to relate their version of history on a child, emphasizing the parts they think important, even when they're not, and yet the person who created the child, the person who could have, without consulting anyone have ended the child before birth, doesn't get to decide what historic narrative her child is exposed to.

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