Why Leaders Lie

Posted by khalling 8 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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An extremely astute article on the state of American politics. I think worth the time to read and then discuss.

Jerome Huyler is a former assistant professor at Seton Hall University. He earned his PhD in political science from the New School University in 1992 and his bachelor’s degree from Brooklyn College, where he majored in philosophy. He is also the author of: Locke in America: The Moral Philosophy of the Founding Era. And Everything You Have: The Case Against Welfare.
SOURCE URL: http://www.anamericanwarning.com/2015/02/leaders-lie/


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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 3 months ago
    I have often thought that the US is headed toward chaos, ending in dictatorship. Our lives are so constricted and controlled even now that a dictatorship would not seem foreign to most of us.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago
      I think the thermometer (my phrase is taking temp) will be when you start to whisper in the street. or people leaving social media and finding ways to meet clandestinely. It is already happening.
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      • Posted by Maritimus 8 years, 3 months ago
        Hello, dear Kira,
        As you know, I lived for 21 years where, if you said loudly a politically incorrect truth, you might be expelled from school, loose your job, put through a phony trial on the way to jail, or just put against the wall and shot dead. I have to tell you that I spent a lot of time thinking very hard about why these things become possible. In the end, I extracted what I consider an axiom, a quasi scientific principle (definition: a self evident truth which nothing in human experience ever contradicted): PEOPLE GET THE GOVEERNMENTS THEY DESERVE.
        Derivatives: if you do not rebel, you accept; if you do not have the courage to take the risk of opposing tyranny, you cannot possibly earn your own freedom etc. etc.
        If the axiom is true, how do the people "deserve" tyranny? At the bottom, I believe it is because of inadequate education (for me, education = parenting + schooling). I say this because I think, on the surface, people "deserve" tyranny by being irrationally optimistic, by being self-delusional about reality, by being unable to read and listen between the lines of the sophisticated propaganda thrown at them, by not being trained in careful thinking and unable to stick with the inviolate logic.
        Over there, I found myself, in my twenties, in a place where majorities accepted the propaganda of the "peaceful" tyranny in the aftermath of the horrific WWII (10% of the population dead). My choices: (1) join the party and thus become a 1st class citizen (and eternal liar), (2) remain silent and "safely" never achieve my potential, (3) try to organize rebellion, which at that time I considered nearly suicidal (my goal number one was to raise kids that will become better people than I am, not to let the tyranny indoctrinate them into subservience). I concluded that I had to leave and I did. I achieved all my important goals because I became free to do as I wished.
        I think that in the real world the Rand's Gulch does not exist, but behind it is the idea that a shared vision of a better world leads to the creation of that better world.
        For me, all this means that my kids' generation will have to find a way to enlighten a majority of Americans that there is a much better world than the one collectivists (progressives, leftists, socialists, communist, liberals - let's leave for another day the "out-of-focusness" of all these labels) try to impose, or split the country (ever heard of blue and red states?) and save only a piece of it as a beacon of free life, individual rights and unbridled innovation in pursuit of happiness. I never ceased to be impressed how tiny Athens of Pericles and Florence of the Medici were and how enormous and eternal influence they had on humanity's development.
        As an aside. Not all leaders lie. I claim that I never lied to my kids. As the owner of my own business for 20 years, I claim that I never lied to my employees nor to my customers. I believe that it is true that George Washington never lied.
        What say you?
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        • Posted by $ HeroWorship 8 years, 3 months ago
          Nicely put. Thank you for adding your experience to the conversation. I have not experienced true dictatorship. I have only read We The Living. :-)
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          • Posted by Maritimus 8 years, 3 months ago
            Thanks! I have told many people that by far the best description of what I saw in the first 10 years or so (1944 - 1954) of Tito's tyranny in Yugoslavia is Rand's "We the Living". We were ordered to empty our home in 24 hours (because one of the ministers want it). They stopped rationing food in 1951 (not that after that food was abundant or even always available). Etc. etc. ... ad infinitum.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago
    They lie because they can do it and get away with it. Like Hillary and Obama, and Bush for that matter. We, as citizens, just have to assume that anything a politician says is said to support a hidden agenda and just not accepted as fact. The agenda must be identified before accepting anything they say
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 3 months ago
    Excellent article. It also gives insight as to why the fight against ISIS won't win using the strategy used for the last 70 years and we must us a new means to end the threat (not end ISIS) along the lines of Ron Paul's suggestions in this book "Plowshares."
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 3 months ago
    Because for some of them...there are no consequences. IE: our friends in the Democrat party get a pass from the majority of the press and no one else has the wherewithal to make enough noise for the majority to hear. Also the "progressives" have been putting like minded judges in place for the last 100 years.....so the courts obstruct any blowback.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 3 months ago
    The fundamental function of politics is the acquisition and maintenance of power. All other considerations are secondary. If the people benefit from the actions of a politician it is a useful but not necessary byproduct of the political process. Most politicians truly believe that the end justifies the means so any actions, regardless of how nefarious, that they take to acquire and maintain their power is justified and if the gullible public suffers that is just the cost of doing business. Ever wonder why there are so many scoundrels in politics? It's because of all the professions politics provides the easiest access and the greatest rewards to scoundrels.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago
    "I cannot tell a lie, I chopped down that Cherry tree" George Washington. This was a message of Responsibility, of a mistake made and accepting the consequences of your actions. It was a message of humanity, of integrity. It provided a measure of trust and reality.
    Today many accept the fact that politicians lie.

    I don't.

    To the leftist statist, the end justifies the means
    The double standards, the manipulation ,indeed the fear of reality , the lack of conscious responsibility for words and actions all done with a nauseating arrogance .FOF
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    • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 3 months ago
      While I appreciate the moral of the story, historians note that the story is a fable.

      Far better is the story of Abraham Lincoln, who while working as a youth as a store clerk realized that a customer had overpaid and he had incorrectly calculated the change due. After leaving work that day he walked the several miles to the customer's home to return the money - only a few cents in the day.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago
      If I didnt know better, I would say you are pretty disgusted with the state of things and just dont listen to them anymore. Kudos to you.
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      • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago
        On CNBC today a guest was discussing which candidate would be better for the economy.
        He claimed that it was impossible to know because both candidates blatantly lie.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 3 months ago
          I think that Trump would excite people to try harder, like a coach. Hillary would excite people to look for more free stuff that others would pay for, and therefore incite the producers to work LESS hard.

          Either one cant do a lot on their own- it takes the congress to agree and most likely it will be divided. Therefore, the promises made by either candidate cant be taken too seriously (EVER) for that reason. Congress seem not to agree on anything really except perhaps a declaration of war after some intense and sneaky attack (like Pearl Harbor).
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          • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 3 months ago
            I don't consider a campaign agenda in the lie camp. When the Billary's says no classified emails or I deleted only personal messages, or the Bengazi attack was because of an offensive video.
            That is bull $hip.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago
    Leaders lie because people that lie seek to be leaders.
    Some have been brain washed into thinking it is necessary to achieve certain goals but if one had a conscience, no matter the goal, could not lie in the first place.
    The rest of that lying population are just psychologically retarded. These entities are the great unwashed and we find ourselves awash in a sea of creatures like this and amazingly they followed the pide piper of liars, all the way to Washington DC.

    The End.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 3 months ago
    This article is troubling assertion that truth is a mere convenience, relative to one's personal views. The author exercises no judgement on those who lie with impunity, and in fact goes out of the way to justify prevarication as standard practice.

    The American people are the shareholders in government, which is supposed to be answerable to us. It is not acceptable for government executives to hide behind artificial barriers and fabricate whatever fiction suits their needs of the moment, but that's where we are today.

    The screaming illustration of the death of truth and facts is the broad support for Hillary Clinton. Staring us in the face, she lies about the lies she's told to cover her lies, and she still has fervent believers who trust her to hold the highest office in the land.
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    • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 3 months ago
      I think you are confusing what the author is saying. When the article says there is truth he is explaining how modern politician think.
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 3 months ago
        I understand he's performing as an observer, trying to denote the thinking of the current crop of those who seek to lead. Nonetheless, unless he ascribes to their practices, I think there's a duty to point out the amoral nature of such thought processes.

        Reading this I felt like I was listening to a defense attorney explaining the viciousness of a serial killer as understandable due to an abusive childhood. I have no desire to understand the twisted thought processes that lead to an acceptance of dishonest, immoral behavior.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 3 months ago
    The first sentence of the last paragraph states "there is no final truth or objective reality".. To bad the guy did not study the teaching of Ayn Rand. The pity is only a very few have studied Ayn Rand and therefore know there is truth and OBJECTIVE REALITY. I have gotten to the point of believing the population of the western world is just dumb. My proof is what is visible each and everyday.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 3 months ago
    Truth is not subjective. Truth is either reality or it is not truth. Truth is also work. Why? Because nothing can be accepted as truth without verification. When you were 10, whatever mom or dad said was truth. In your teens, if you are reading this, you probably questioned everything your parents said, driving them nuts as you sought the truth. And most often, when you discovered one untruth, you felt compelled to question everything. Politicians have come to the conclusion that most people cannot tell the difference between a truth and a lie. They are too lazy or too busy. They also know that when a person achieves a certain status, people just take their word for it. "If Senator Batson Belfry says it, it must be true." Then of course, there is the oblivious person, who is the person of the unexamined life. It may not be worth living, but they don't even know it.
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