Stats Don't Lie to People, People Lie to People

Posted by $ KahnQuest 10 years, 5 months ago to News
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Brought to my attention by a friend who commented, "What?! Liberals exaggerated stats to fit their agenda? Never saw that coming."
SOURCE URL: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/11/cnn-slashes-school-shooting-stats-claim-by-80-percent/


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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 5 months ago
    That is really messing with the numbers. I know various groups lie to fit their agenda but this is over the top. Should ruin their credibility but it won't among liberals.
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    • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago
      Indeed! Gun-grabbers love doing this. Remember the "43 times more likely to kill you or a family member" stat? Pure drivel, and thoroughly debunked, but still quoted. See: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdga... and http://stason.org/TULARC/society/guns-ca... for a couple concise discussions. It's likely that the 74 stat will continue to be bandied about.
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      • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 5 months ago
        I read the other day that Australian researchers completely debunked the "97% of scientists agree there is global warming" stat. We should try to find the ones that are accurate.
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        • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 5 months ago
          I believe the accurate statement is: In a retrospective study by a pro-global warming group of all of the articles published in a selection of peer reviewed journals during a given interval, the committee decided, without asking the authors of the articles in any way, to 'grade' 97% of the publications as being 'pro global warming'.

          This is an entirely different statement.

          I have read of individual scientists, whose articles were amongst the ones in the study, indicate that they thought their article was (a) global warming neutral, or (b) anti-global warming. (There were only 2 or 3 scientists making these comments.)

          Jan
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        • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago
          Yes - this one is harder to prove. Maybe they learned their lesson about stats being picked apart. It has been coming to light recently that scientists who are brave enough to call BS are being silenced, and their research is being suppressed.
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      • Posted by NealS 10 years, 5 months ago
        And, it is a fact that 100% of victims of gun shots are shot by someone possessing a gun. I've never heard of anyone being shot by a knife or a baseball bat. Go ahead and look it up if you don't believe me. (even though it is 100% true,what am I supposed to put here to indicate my comment is meant to be a joke? Anyone know a good psychiatrist in the Redmond WA area?)
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        • Posted by $ 10 years, 5 months ago
          Appreciated! I can see the humor in that - I love making fun of so-called studies in which the stats aren't done right. My recent favorite is a "study" in the UK showing that single, childless men are more lonely and less fulfilled than their married, child-rearing counterparts. The total sample was 105 people, not all of whom were men!

          Joking aside, that was also my first thought. Why did they only pick households (in one US county no less) where someone had died? As the links above show, the answer is obvious. Remember, gun control isn't about guns - it's about control.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 5 months ago
    This one got debunked as soon as it was put out as a total fabrication.

    What surprises me is that noone is talking about DC and Chicago - two of the last bastions of gun control in the nation yet also two of the worst cities for gun violence - mostly gang=related!
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