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What Are You Going To Do About It? by Robert Gore at STRAIGHT LINE LOGIC

Posted by straightlinelogic 8 years, 5 months ago to Government
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Justice and equality are inseparable. Equality here does not mean the fatuous and impossible equality of outcomes that animates collectivists, but equality before the law. Equality of outcomes in all its collectivist guises obliterates equality before the law, the foundation of which is the concept of individual rights. For that concept to have any meaning, each individual must have the same rights, which receive the same protection from the government. Individual, equal rights must be the basis of the law, and when they are not, no justice is possible.

Law instead becomes a tool wielded by those who control the government against everyone else. Yesterday’s announcement by FBI Director James Comey that the FBI would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton in the email matter is the government wielding the law to protect its own. The fix has been in since at least 1913, when it gave itself permission to steal its constituents’ money (the income tax) and to begin the process of profitably substituting its scrip for gold (the Federal Reserve Act). The Clinton fix is business as usual. The exempt-from-the-law class expect outrage and contemptuously ignore it. Indeed, disclosure of the Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton meeting may have been designed to rub the noses of the not-exempt in it. Yes, it looks terrible, but we run things, you don’t. You don’t like it? Tough shit, what are you going to do about it?

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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago
    Might their outright public, in your face, hubris be their undoing?...be still my heart...is that possible in this paradigm?
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    • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago
      We can only hope.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 5 months ago
        Here is the American Problem as seen by Tocqueville's observations...complements of Mark Levin in his book Ameritopia. Also read in full on Wed. July 6, 2016. levintv.com
        And I paraphrase: 'People manage to shake off their dependence just long enough to select their new master and then relapse back into dependence, quite contented they had done enough for the protection of individual freedom; when, in fact, they just surrendered it to the power of the nation at large."
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  • Posted by tkstone 8 years, 5 months ago
    Thanks Robert. This feels like my breaking point personally. Not sure if it is still a green break or if it will be catastrophic. I think the election will tell.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
    This what I'm going to do about it. It just so happened I read what is in the provided link just before coming here. W#ent back to fetch.
    After clicking the link, also click onto "cartoons." They will help you feel better.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtsc...
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
      I dont have the hatred for Trump that you seem to possess, but I am voting for him because he will stand up and tell us like it is for a change, and is NOT a member of the crony political establishment. Hildebeast IS the crooked establishment who seems to be a modern day reincarnation of Nixon (do what you want and hide it from everyone).
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
        I don't hate Trump. In some ways I like him--like for upsetting the GOP establishment's apple cart.
        I just feel a bit resentfully stuck with Trump, who is not the conservative I would really prefer.
        I loathe Shillary and all she stands for.
        She is far worse than Tricky Dicky too.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
          Trump hijacked the GOP. It had gotten VERY establishment and was about to nominate Job Bush (not ANOTHER Bush, please). Political correctness had taken hold of our minds and allowed the leftists to gain a lot of control. Trump cracked that egg and its great. If he does ONLY that as president, I will have thought 4 years of him was worth it. I dont expect him to reinstate our constitutional rights- but I do think he will tell us when the emperor has no clothes (which is NOW actually)
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 8 years, 5 months ago
    I have a number of friends on Facebook feel that the election in November might become rigged. We aren't electing a Prez by popular vote but through the Electoral College. Those represenatives theorically by bought off or threated by outside influences to rig the election. The election could cause a tremendous amount of chaos which will be to the advantage of the political power elite. Again, theorically that could start a Revolution. What say you?
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 5 months ago
    I see this as an opportunity on a par with the 2005 Supreme Court “Kelo” decision, which upheld a government’s “right” to use eminent domain for the benefit of private parties, but sparked widespread outrage that led to repeal of many laws permitting such abuses.

    Scenario #1 (didn’t happen): Hillary is recommended for indictment. The Dems find a way to block her nomination and replace her with someone equally bad, but without all the baggage. This candidate becomes our next President.

    Scenario #2 (might happen): Hillary is “cleared”. Dems are stuck with her, as she continues to gradually lose ground to Trump in the polls, and Gary Johnson maintains his double-digit presence. The presidency is still up for grabs, and a Libertarian is very much still in the race.

    The overreach and outrage may have come at just the right time to derail the Clinton machine once and for all.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
    What am I going to do he asked? And I flashed four fingers and added a thumb and said. Start little tiny fires all over the country. Just a thought. Then add some ideas. Kindling and let nature take it's coure. Bonfires.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 5 months ago
    There is no longer the slightest doubt that those occupying posts within the Beltway are the new royalty. Only the titles have changed. They are immune from the charges of commoners once they have achieved one of the higher ranks. Oh, a Baron might get his tighty whities in a bind now and then, but the higher ups never. Of course there are their vassals who are their plan B and take the blame for them, but in general the Earls, Dukes, Princes and Kings are immune. It's time for a Revolution, but the public will need to suffer a good deal more before that will happen.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 5 months ago
    My definition of JUSTICE: A DEBT PAID
    Courts evolved a process to determine:
    1. Is there a debt?
    2. Who is responsible for the debt?
    3. How will the debt be paid?
    4. Issue an Order re: #3

    Hildebeast created a "debt" when she broke the law. The court process has shown itself to be corrupt. Welcome to the Banana Republic of the United States.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 5 months ago
    What am I going to do about it?

    Real simple, I will vote for Trump. Do I completely agree with his positions? No! Do I even like him? Not really. Do I think he is THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO MIGHT BEAT HER! Yup and that's why he gets my vote.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
    I am going to vote for Trump. At least he talks about this cronyism. Not sure if he CAN fix it, but at least he (and Sanders actually) shows us what is really happening. Hillary IS crooked and she has powerful friends she buys off with the promise of government favors. She NEEDS to be defeated any way it can happen- and not NEXT election, but this one.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
      Yeah, I'm just gonna have to vote for that bad hair day, too.
      Voted for Cruz in the primary before he turned me off by talking about "sacrifice" donations and how trouble Soros and MoveOn paid for being all Trump's fault.
      Should Johnson rise high in the polls I may think otherwise. But I don't like him either.
      Me dino don't like anyone.
      Me feel like the Jurassic Period Allosaurus big time.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8l-e...
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      • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
        I thought Cruz was a bit better about constitutionality, but I just didnt think he had the charisma to get congress to follow him, if in fact he was able to beat give-away Hillary.

        I have been registered as a libertarian for a long time now, but I have to say I thought Johnson was a bit too bubbly, non charismatic, and philosophically challenged to actually have any chance of being elected. His stand on anti-drug laws was lame and disintegrated by one woman voter in the CNN town hall he did. Hillary would make mincemeat of him.

        That leaves Trump. He says what a LOT of us are thinking but are afraid to say out loud. His presentation is a bit out there, but our election process is really stupid and one needs to either spend huge amounts of money, or get free media attention by being outlandish.

        If you watch the CNN town hall with Anderson Cooper (its on youtube), we see another side of Trump through the eyes of his children. It was quite impressive actually, and after watching that I was a lot more comfortable with him. The apples dont fall far from the tree. Ivanka Trump was very impressive. I wish SHE were running !!
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
          Maybe she will some day should we stop the Progressive elites from totally taking over as a dictatorial ruling class.
          Wrote it in the Gulch before that Constitution Cruz looked a little too much like a relative of the Addams Family to win, but I voted for him anyway. .
          Agree with you about Johnson. Once upon a time, I called myself a Republican and then a Libertarian.
          Now I'm just a freaking independent old-fashioned American dinosaur who does not think the Constitution of our Founding Fathers is extinct.
          Way I see it, voting for bad hair day is an attempt to protect the Constitution.
          The above statement is subject to change depending on what may or may not happen next between now and November.
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          • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
            maybe Johnson will develop into a bit more than a "revenge of the nerds" spokesman. Bill Maher had him on his show and interviewed him for a few minutes. Gave Johnson every opportunity to get the message out, but except for a couple of statements like "most people are libertarian but they dont know it yet", and "fiscally conservative but socially liberal", I dont remember anything he said.
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            • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 5 months ago
              "Johnson will develop into a bit more than a "revenge of the nerds" spokesman"
              That's funny. It reminds me of an engineering conference I went to in Vegas earlier this year that really felt like the Nerds in Paradise movie. We nerds now have a candidate. :)

              "Gave Johnson every opportunity to get the message out, but except for a couple of statements"
              I wonder if that's intentional. I wonder if his audience is not people who really think about gov't and policy but rather people who watch it casually who might remember two catchphrases if he repeats them enough.

              "Fiscally conservative, socially liberal" is a cliche. 30 Rock made fun of it subtly by having the protagonist give a glib "socially conservative, fiscally liberal," answer to her opinion on politics. She delivered it an wonderfully perfunctory tone that suggests it was said with such little thought she didn't even notice she had the cliche backwards.

              If I'm right that this is a bromide people tell themselves, maybe it's smart for Johnson to repeat it too. Someone checking on their kid while reviewing their to-do list for tomorrow on Asana or Wrike might hear it from the TV in the other room and realize Johnson's the person they want to vote for.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 5 months ago
    Straightline, I fear the corruptness has spread to the point of no return. It has infested every corner of America. I had a case in court for a nuisance, and I had been told by a county commissioner I could not win because "we are a right to farm" county. Yet the judge, with 8 witnesses and 53 pieces of evidence including state reports, found we had suffered $138,000 in damages. Yet she could not find they were a nuisance.Since it would be impossible to have damage without a cause, she walked the fine line and did both things. I don't blame her, she is as much a part of the corrupt system as the commissioner who told her what to do, but it has gone from the Federal level to the local level. There are other stories posted under the HillaryBeast posts showing similar instances. We would need a wholesale change in character, a return to personal integrity and honor, to ever make a change. I do not see how that can happen given a corrupt education system that teaches entitlement, religions that teach self service and concern, and morals that have no basis in any framework. I wish it was otherwise, but all I see is we are doomed by our own votes.
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 5 months ago
    I agree with the idea of the law becoming tool, a rule-of-law fig leaf, covering rule by men. I don't see that happening at all in the case of Clinton's e-mails. It seems like a nothingburger that her political critics tried to turn into something more. They don't have a candidate who can beat her, so they hoped to win on a technicality. It seems like that explains the gymnastics to shoehorn the emails into the command-and-control philosophy some people have and the unsustainable US foreign policy. Apparently there's a bi-partisan consensus for these things. It seems like that tempts people who reject the consensus (as I do) to hope for a technicality.

    I think President Obama and Hillary Clinton are excellent at managing a country with an expensive and intrusive central gov't. That's not a good thing. But buying into the political game of their opponents and demonizing them, IMHO, actually hurts the cause of liberty.
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    • Posted by tkstone 8 years, 5 months ago
      I couldn't disagree more. My grandfather was a staunch Dem and I can hear him rolling in his grave over the hubris of the Clintons. I can have a conversation with friends who are liberals and agree to disagree, but the Clintons to me define evil. Harsh I know, but if I have to explain why then we can save time and agree to disagree right now.
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    • Posted by starznbarz 8 years, 5 months ago
      Liberty is a wonderful thing, we have all witnessed it by your comment. Has it occurred to you that in your agreement with "law becoming a tool" you may very well find your right to speak your mind makes you an outlaw?
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 5 months ago
        "Has it occurred to you that in your agreement with "law becoming a tool" you may very well find your right to speak your mind makes you an outlaw?"
        Yes, that is my whole point. Once the law becomes a fig leaf to hide rule of men, there is no more liberty.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
          Depends on who is interpreting the law and that depends on who the citizens vote into office and do not recall out of office. Of the interpreting is being done by one of George Soro's hired judicial thugs i would mantain they were the outlaws as we didn't sign up for a totalitarian socialist socia contract. Enforcing what I said is much more difficult when you are speaking for a deposed Constitutional Republic while trying to dodge the slings and arrows of outrageous protective echelons. Still it's a counter revolution and it's not diminishing.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 5 months ago
      The Clintons are crooks. They are the modern equivalent of Nixon, who just protected HIMSELF at the expense of the rest of us. Its obvious that Bill Clinton wanted to hide the whole womanizing thing, and Hillary learned to hide her work from scrutiny by using her own email server. This is pure Nixon philosophy in action. The idea that anyone would actually vote FOR Hillary boggles my mind. Maybe she buys off the powers that be, but no way should she be president of the USA.
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    • Posted by Technocracy 8 years, 5 months ago
      -1 for crap

      Carelessness with classified data is criminal action and the statute does not require intent only the action.
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      • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 5 months ago
        Hillary did have criminal intent even if that intent was merely to evade open-records laws and FOIA requests.

        But I don't think it's fair to protest that "the statute does not require intent" as if that were a moral principle. The law ought to require intent for all felonies. Otherwise you get tragedies like Aaron Swartz and outrages like the Martha Stewart prosecution.

        Demonizing the likes of Clinton and Obama, on the other hand, is both necessary and right.
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        • Posted by Technocracy 8 years, 5 months ago
          Intent is irrelevant to the offense. It is a red herring with no basis in the statute. Using it to avoid prosecuting the case is a transparent fig leaf.

          Negligence in custodial duties for classified information can and should be prosecuted. Just as other negligent actions can be.

          Charges should be filed, actually replace should with must.

          Other people have been prosecuted for similar actions, not prosecuting her is a shot in the head to the rule of law.

          How do you prove intent??? That is a mental state. Until someone perfects telepathy intent cannot be proven beyond a doubt.

          My moral outrage over this is the double standard being applied.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 5 months ago
          "Ignorance of the law is no excuse," a traffic cop told 16-year-old dino when he handed me my first ticket.
          It was for slowing not stopping for a stop sign with no other visible traffic around. I still sere other people do that--even cops!
          Back then I was but a babe in the woods.
          Shillary is a career criminal Clintonista pampered because she is among the top Progressive more than equal elites with too many world wide donating cronie$ to fail. .
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    • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 5 months ago
      the BHO and HRC consortium is killing the u.s. faster
      than the opposition, IMHO. . I want the opposition to
      apply the brakes while the Gary Johnsons of the world
      gain strength. -- j
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