Galt's Gulch

History Repeats

Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago to Government
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  • Posted by Lucky 10 years, 6 months ago
    This post from H should be thought about carefully.
    When Roman Britain was under attack, this was over a period of decades, the invaders were described much as in H's source-
    little planning or discipline, men women and children, some unarmed, some naked, some starving, all desperate, in overwhelming numbers.
    Rome at that time was in decay, attributed by the after-the-fact experts to Christianity, licentiousness, corruption or urbanization. It is fun to speculate if the discipline of the earlier republic could have resisted the onslaught.

    The cause of the onslaught- climate change.
    Not as in the current myth of carbon, whether of human or natural source. Neither carbon, nor carbon dioxide, can change climate.
    At that time the earth cooled, vast areas could no longer provide the food from agriculture or hunting that earlier had allowed an increase in human population.

    Now, the impartial analysis in that the earth is entering another cooling phase.
    Not any of the bleating from Greenpeace, environmentalists, and carbon believers; nor all the windmills and carbon taxes will stop it.

    To stop or alleviate mass starvation requires actions which make sense even if the cooling prediction turns out wrong-
    -Stop use of farmland for carbon credits (non-use) and fuel production (mis-use via subsidies).
    -Stop wasting effort by the corrupt subsidies on windmills and phony so-called renewable sources of energy and the associated massive spending on propaganda
    Government control of nuclear power only with logical safety regulations
    - ditto oil exploration, drilling production and frakking
    - ditto genetic modification of crops
    -Allow the private sector to research nuclear power especially the use of thorium and coal-to-liquid fuel conversion
    -Legitimize the concept of the nation state and its defense.
    - ditto contraception and equal education of women to reduce the use of women as breeding machines to supply warriors and workers not just for when crop yields are in decline.

    'Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.'
    George Santayana

    'There has never been a famine in a democracy'.
    Amartya Sen
    This proposition has been disputed. I hypothesize for discussion-
    There can be no famine in a free market.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 6 months ago
    " To the Romans, the German tribes were riffraff; to the Germans, the Roman side of the river was the place to be. The nearest we can come to understanding this divide may be the southern border of the United States. There the spit-and-polish troops are immigration police; the hordes, the Mexicans, Haitians, and other dispossessed peoples seeking illegal entry. The barbarian migration was not perceived as a threat by Romans, simply because it was a migration— a year-in, year-out, raggle-taggle migration— and not an organized, armed assault. It had, in fact, been going on for centuries. The Gauls had been the first barbarian invaders, hundreds of years before, and now Gaul lay at peace. The verses of its poets and the products of its vineyards were twin fountains of Roman inspiration. The Gauls had become more Roman than the Romans themselves. Why could not the same thing happen to these Vandals, Alans, and Sueves, now working themselves to a fever pitch on the far side of the river?

    When, at last, the hapless Germans make their charge across the bridge of ice, it is head-on, without forethought or strategy. With preposterous courage they teem across the Rhine in convulsive waves, their principal weapon their own desperation. We get a sense of their numbers, as well as their desperation, in a single casualty count: the Vandals alone are thought to have lost twenty thousand men (not counting women and children) at the crossing. Despite their discipline, the Romans cannot hold back the Germanic sea.

    From one perspective, at least, the Romans were overwhelmed by numbers— not just in this encounter but during centuries of migrations across the porous borders of the empire. Sometimes the barbarians came in waves, though seldom as big as this one. More often they came in trickles: as craftsmen who sought honest employment, as warriors who enlisted with the Roman legions, as tribal chieftains who paid for land, as marauders who burned and looted and sometimes raped and murdered."
    - How the Irish Saved Civilization
    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Rome-Fel...
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