Executive Order 13603
Posted by melissa97 8 years, 5 months ago to Government
I know it's long but please read all five pages because this is real and most people have no idea it exists.
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Unlikely though too many ladder climbers as well as the general population is indifferent.
But he is annoying in many ways. Maybe that is part of the charm, since politicians traditionally kiss everyones butt, and lies to all. Trump has no real need to do that, so he resonates with a lot of frustrated people. I am just not too sure he is stable enough to do the job without pissing off the entire world. But then, most of the world is already pissed off at someone.
Perhaps we should stop winning "hearts and minds" while trying to convince every two bit dictator to "like us by the capitulation of OUR values, history, and laws. I kinda think Trump just might be the right guy to do this. The "Hildabeast" or crazy uncle bernie sure won't.
The LEAs and other government agents who refer to everyone else excepting themselves as civilians are the one's to watch. That's your future Gestapo.
It's a mind set and that particular variety is set in concrete.
They knew that the people would give up their freedom during a time of War.
Exactly what has happened since 2001 and it gets worse every year.
But does he have the guts to declare martial law when it will be clear that he just wants to keep Trump out of office?
He has shown cowardice when it comes to such things as not backing up his drawing of a red line.
Still, the Narcissist-In Chief has his huge egotistical legacy hang-up to nurture.
He has his Obamacare and wants to keep it. Period.
He wants his fundamental change and he wants us to keep it. Period.
That including other things--
He wants coal miners out of work and to keep them unemployed. Period.
He wants pseudo-transgenders to traumatize little girls and wants them to keep doing it. Period.
Old Dino could keep this up but won't. Period.
By the way, David is my favorite first name for some reason. Now why is that?
Can't quite put the finger on that reason. Think I'll tap a finger to my head to help me think.
But this particular executive order is one of the most terrifying things i have ever read. The government has gone to far. WAY to far.
From the land of the freeeeeeeeeee and the home of the brave.
Totalitarian govt makes individuals totally subservient to the state. His centralized govt controlling all commodities , food , medicine , energy , fresh air , toilets , sunshine , rain , the ground under your feet. I am sure they will treat everyone equally like the IRS and Lois Lerner types will be certain of that.
Sound familiar.
(I meant to write King Barry--not Batty. That's such a great typo I'm gonna let it stand).
Sanders is more than likely the type to say there can be only one.
Trump has a bus load.
Besides where would one find a gentleman in the Socialist party or for that matter a lady?
Reporter: "Excuse me rumor has it...."
WHACK
"That's MIZ to you MCP".
So tell me how does giving up all your civil rigthts and everything we used to stand for turn in to 'winning the war against terrorism. Looks to me like we lost and a new terrorist element was added.
Still going to vote for them this fall? Hmmmm voting is one of those rights that's affected.
People sometimes point to Posse Comitatus as a defense against the invocation of the IA, but that's an incorrect assumption. The PC restraint is against the use of the U.S. military in a law enforcement role in a state that is not in a state of insurrection.
We remain, as we have for over 200 years, one Presidential order from totalitarian rule.
out of the mist. . it's no wonder that BHO swaggers
as he walks. . fascist. -- j
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Has it come to that where a trial is not the state proving guilt of the accused but rather that the accused has to prove their innocence?
This one is under the DHS consolidation of federal powers also.
Like the change no one noiticed on Dec 31s doing away with civil rights and Bill of Rights some key definitions were left blank.
But then no one cared then or apparently does now.
Like the change no one noiticed on Dec 31s doing away with civil rights and Bill of Rights some key definitions were left blank.
?
The old version was 'arrest upon suspicion of terrorism.'
Terrorism was not defined nor limited to any particular group such as Mid Easterners.
The new version added, "arrest upon suspicion of support of terroism." Again no real definition much less limits.
No probable cause, no warrants, no judges signature etc etc etc. no miranda escobedo rights warnings, no rights.
And the asshole went on public television in front of a big display of the Constitution etc. and signed the bill remarking how that little change was going to save us all from....
a two bit tin horn shyster dictator from Chicago?
Fifteen Senators voted against 85 including all the RINOS voted for it.
The world slept especially the lame stream media
Hell most of this forum slept and ho hummed and went back to debating civil rights and the Bill of Rights that don't exist anymore.
and all it takes is 'mere suspicion' with no proofs required or offered.
Been that way since the Patriot Act was first put in place. only thing new was adding ' suspicion of 'supporting' terrorism.
You just read the whole thing with all it 's definitions and limits. NONE.
But the government didn't shut down and the media cheered and they now have the legal power to ignore the Constitution at a whim. Especially those pesky rights card readings and producing proof and providing a lawyer and trial and all that useless crap.
ACLU was so pleased
Joe Mama. That's a slang insult from Yo Mama.
Ring any bells yet?
But be happy the suspension of Constitutional protections with in 100 miles of our borders and coastlines was not extended ...but it was kept in place.
Ding a ling Ding a ling
How Patriot-ic Act-ing do you feel now?
When you give up your rights to the whims of the likes of TSA and the President says 'we won the war on terrorism' who besides Obeyme and the toad in his pocket is the 'we' he references? (The toad is Hillary.)
As for the new Executive Directive the topic of this as HBD read it and decide for yourself. Then go look at it's history which started under Roosevelt around 1940. This one is the latest version and consolidates all the bits and pieces.
Individual is locked up in a mental institution for observation for as long as is necessary. In effect - disappeared. In the end released to reappear with some 'story' the telling of which supports mental derangement.
The place was one St. Elizabeths Hospital used by the federal government near Washington DC.
Another of the Patriot Act techniques is extending a sentence or time required in the disappeared status by, if I remember correctly, up to ten additional years.
No need to fire on civilians just disappear the leadership.
https://www.federalregister.gov/artic...
c) be prepared, in the event of a potential threat to the security of the United States, to take actions necessary to ensure the availability of adequate resources and production capability, including services and critical technology, for national defense requirements;
Here is the direction to take over nearly everything:
Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:Show citation box
(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;
(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;
(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;
(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;
(5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and
(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.
Oh yea, go check out this gem (the NDER), a herd of loyal Dumbocraps hand picked to become Executives that can be activated "in an emergency" and tell you what to do:
(e) The head of an agency may activate an NDER unit, in whole or in part, upon the written determination of the Secretary of Homeland Security that an emergency affecting the national defense exists and that the activation of the unit is necessary to carry out the emergency program functions of the agency.
Nope, this is a blueprint for a government know to be unable to tell the truth, and make up lies to match it's agenda, to take over.
Crap...
Sec. 803. Authority. (a) Executive Order 12919 of June 3, 1994, and sections 401(3)-(4) of Executive Order 12656 of November 18, 1988, are revoked. All other previously issued orders, regulations, rulings, certificates, directives, and other actions relating to any function affected by this order shall remain in effect except as they are inconsistent with this order or are subsequently amended or revoked under proper authority. Nothing in this order shall affect the validity or force of anything done under previous delegations or other assignment of authority under the Act.
(b) Nothing in this order shall affect the authorities assigned under Executive Order 11858 of May 7, 1975, as amended, except as provided in section 802 of this order.
(c) Nothing in this order shall affect the authorities assigned under Executive Order 12472 of April 3, 1984, as amended.
The article starts off saying there's something ominous about this particular order and then goes through an interesting history of ever-increasing executive power. It feels like an article with a provocative title and provocative insinuations on the first page. Then it says, okay even if the first page was a bunch of political crap, the trend of increasing executive power is a real problem. I agree.
Mull that over...
The cracks in the plaster however are showing with TSA for the failure of 'make us feel safe along with the clearly politically driven slant of the Justice Department, a really crappy economy with zero expectations and other failings.
Strong leadership is needed for sure to correct the course and bring back to the rhumb line but I don't see that being offerered.
So far the platforms are hard left, hard left, left/righ/left, and ease to five degrees leftrudder - and that only because the Libertarians got on all 50 state ballots.
It will take a full impact demonstration of the new powers along with another Recession II or inflation/devaluation/repudiation shock wave followed by civil unrest.
Guaranteed with a Clinton or Sanders, Probable with a Trump although I saw one sign of sanity and problematical with even a Johnson unless he gets full congressional support.
Meantime "i have no plans to become an EX expat.
It will be the start of the 2nd Civil War and will end in the Balkanization of the United States with a country of Red states and islands of Blue that we will take back when their economies fail.
Has it come to that where a trial is not the state proving guilt of the accused but rather that the accused has to prove their innocence?
Article One, Section 9, clause 2, which demands that "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it."
wars are not declared in response to invasions and the government shuns from declaring a state of civil insurrection preferring to find other means. Those who rail against Lincoln on this matter cannot read. it contains and affects more than the point Irshultis referred to in the preceding comment.