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P.J O'Rourke endorses Hillary Clinton

Posted by paris1 8 years, 6 months ago to The Gulch: General
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This is P.J. at his most insightful! Unfortunately, it's also the logic that will no doubt carry the day this fall. How in the world did we get to this point? (rhetorical question!)
SOURCE URL: http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/08/pj-orourke-endorses-hillary-clinton

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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
    What does the P.J. stand for? It must be Poor Judgment. I think the PJ has reversed things. Trump may be bad, but Clinton is many times worse. Remember the English Navy's advise when encountering insect infected food: "Of two weevils, pick the lesser."
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
      Ahhh but that leaves one not accounted for. Hillary and Bernie are covered but what about...

      Well AR said when the question has three possible answers...right, wrong and compromise that makes two wrong answers and one right answer.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
        Only in an imagined paradise. If myself and the ones I love will suffer because of the "wrong" decision, and if there is a possibility, even a slight one, of getting a better result over time, that will be my decision.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 6 months ago
    This guy is a real wack job. Why on earth would Donald Trump push the nuclear button of all things?? Much more likely Obama would as a threat to get Snowden extradited, or some other stupid reason.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 6 months ago
    So this guy who says that we should not have invaded Iraq, and that the U.S. military should not be used all over the world. The guy who says that diplomacy is the first option and military force the last. The guy who wrote the book on the art of making deals is going to start nuking people?

    Why think that -- well, because it worked for Johnson against Goldwater.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
      But Johnson got to fabricate Tonkin Gulf and reverse Kennedy's removal of troops from Vietnam and start two or three big delicious money making wars for his crony statist corporatist friends. Hell he wasn't even eloquent and a racist to boot.

      So maybe come to think of it Trump is the reincarnation of Lyndon Butcher Johnson?

      Looks like the Rules Committee might cave and fail to uphold their own rules.

      Talk about out in the cold with nothing but the draft to claim our loyalty. Ha ha what an unintentional pun that turned out to be.
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    • Posted by paris1 8 years, 6 months ago
      Of course all that depends on which day you selectively quote Trump on, doesn't it?
      To me, the more important point that PJ makes is that a whole lot of people will vote for Clinton because she is wrong about absolutely everything, but within "acceptable parameters". Meaning that most of us settle for status quo. Trump is a loose cannon and that makes a lot of people very uneasy (including me!) What's a fella' to do?
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
        "What's a fella' to do?"
        Use your brain and stop voting for evil because the evidence shows that the major party candidates are just two sides of the same rigged statist coin. Vote for either and you lose big.
        Put them both in a time capsule and bury it for 200 years.
        Then get an unbiased goin coin. Vote Libertarian.
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        • Posted by paris1 8 years, 6 months ago
          Which is what I've been doing since the early seventies. good God, objectivists on this site can be prickly (to say nothing of presumptuous!).
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          • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
            paris1:
            Prickly is what you get from independent hard-to-intimidate contributors. You'll find very few woosies on this site. However, a few do go overboard now and then, but it is rarely irrational, it is passion. The presumptuousness you'll have to explain to me.
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            • Posted by paris1 8 years, 6 months ago
              "Presuming" that I am too simple-minded to realize that there is the libertarian alternative, which, BTW, is more often than not denigrated by people here.
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              • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 6 months ago
                Can't argue with the unjustified denigration. As to simple minded, I don't think anyone believes that. I put it down to not getting a point made with proper use of words expressing thoughts accurately. I find myself doing that at (rare) times..(Passion overcoming expression.)
                I am old enough to remember Libertarianism getting politically off the ground, and listening to Murray Rothbard expound.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
                Granted and agreed. But I can't figure out way and it's not state for some reason. One is more of a political system and the other is more a tool to check premises ....to validate or invalidate or improve any value system. I've seen no evidence of an objectivist political movement poiint to you. But I've seen no real evidence that libertarians are willing to budge an inch such as in forming a working coalition of the the disenfranchised.

                At last I smoked out a thinker.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 8 years, 6 months ago
    Hillary... way too much baggage. There's that honesty issue too. She'll say she's Native American by 1/64 if she's speaking to Native Americans or her ancestors were illegal aliens if speaking to illegal aliens. It's true that lifelong career politicians are predictable but not reliable. I'm through with lifelong politicians.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 8 years, 6 months ago
    Is he forgetting about supreme court appointments? I have no doubt that Clinton would continue (as Obummer did) to appoint justices who have no regard for the Constitution or History. By the way, O's court appointments are his real legacy - much worse then Obamacare.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 6 months ago
    HillaryBeast & her husband, Bill, have murdered or raped more individuals than 40 Trumps (i do not support Trump)...both candidates are horrible...vote Libertarian...or don't vote...have a clear conscience...
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 6 months ago
    Choosing from two brands of evil is still choosing evil. Neither of these two offer a choice of liberty, each offers a different brand of slavery. Choosing not to vote demonstrates clear thinking.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 6 months ago
    Entertaining. Notice what he says about Trump. "Of Donald Trump, he warned: "They've got this button, you know? It's in a briefcase. He's gonna find it."

    Doesn't matter if it is true. It will affect people's decisions.
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