U.S. businesses are being destroyed faster than they’re being created

Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 10 years, 6 months ago to Business
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This is what happens when you elect a noob as the CEO of the world's remaining superpower. Well, we were five years ago at least...
SOURCE URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/05/05/u-s-businesses-are-being-destroyed-faster-than-theyre-being-created/


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  • Posted by lostsierra 10 years, 6 months ago
    Socialism's purpose is to destroy and impoverish. It is especially aimed at the small business, ranch or farm. Biggest problem is too many regulations. You must have lots of permissions. Costs are very inflated. Have a small business, am there.
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  • Posted by robertmbeard 10 years, 6 months ago
    The author's agenda is to try to misuse statistics to say that tax policy has had no effect on the decline in new business creation. He selectively chooses to report a % decline for each state's proportion of business that are 1 year old or less. However, this by no means provides the whole story. For this comparison to be fully meaningful, all states would need the same starting point for share of businesses 1 year or less. To tell a more complete story, each state's graph of new business share from 1978 to now should be provided. If states like New York had a lower than average share of new businesses in 1978, it would not be surprising then if New York's % decline in new business share would be less than for states with more dynamic new business creation in 1978... That's just 1 reason why this author's statistical analysis is useless...
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
      the author broke it out by state, but the study did not. I tried it too by comparing the economic freedom index. The corollation wasn 't significant. The authors of the study are looking into it and hopefully have answers in a few months
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  • Posted by iroseland 10 years, 6 months ago
    its funny this is getting mentioned.. I was just about to post something.. But, anyways.. It seems like the biggest problem is that new business is being capitol starved. Banks pretty much will not make a business loan, and the investment community is busy looking for the next facebook. Also, only a lunatic would actually want to take a company public. But, for the VC folks you have two exit choices.. You either go public, or sell..
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 6 months ago
    The number of firms dissolving doesn't worry me that much, it is an indicator of goods/services no longer needed or cost efficient. The number of new businesses under a year old, is concerning. That shows that new businesses are no able to get the capital needed to be created. That is not healthy for an economic system.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 6 months ago
    That CEO has been very successful. He said he'd fundamentally transform the country and he has. He has nearly transformed us into a 3rd world country just like he said he would.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
    I think it 's mostly due to securities and banking law. This is why New York fares well in the breakout. Significant restricted access to capital so only the big boys can play.
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    • Posted by irrelevantcommentforpoint 10 years, 6 months ago
      Maybe it's all the shell companies that the criminals in NY need to cover their nefarious dealings.
      OTOH, Perhaps its that due to NY regulations people had to register companies while in states with less onerous regs they could operate independently without being blessed by looters.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
        I thought so too but I didn ' t see there was a similar overlap. I think it 's so bad, you are seeing govt driven industries as the drivers. That said Texas is doing well -any state doing energy production.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago
      Is it equity or debt funding that's more restricted? I'm under the perhaps false impression that it has been getting easier raise debt/equity.

      I'm shocked the business creation has be declining. It goes against everything I thought about lowered barriers to entry and ability to sell to the long tail.
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      • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
        Debt is easier. Dodd Frank, though, has created huge uncertainty in this arena.
        All these rules regarding capital acquisition has squeezed our both banks and small companies.
        one caveat has been the rise of crowd funding.
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago
          Yes. I would also add that some things require less funding. If you want to open a store, for example, it's much easier to bootstrap today than twenty years ago.
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          • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 6 months ago
            Do you know ANYTHING about starting a business? The least amount of capital needed to start any business is four times the annual receipts that are expected. If you are renting space for a year the lease in a business district will be north of 24-48k for a 2000sf space plus taxes. You need to hire a worker or two - so take your salary and add that to the cost of doing business, plus the things you need to hire out like an accountant, banking services and the rest cost 5-7k a year. Next you need something to sell and if you are going to have shelves to put it on, they cost money too.

            Score tells prospective small business people that it they want to have a income of $40k a year from their small retail business they will need at least $240k per year in operation expenses. I don't know many people who have that laying around or who have parents willing to "fund" a dream.
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            • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago
              @stargeezer
              It's clearly easier to generate returns on capital than to create something that generates returns and therefore has value. People shouldn't focus on what they can't do but rather think of new ways to help customers. The heroes in AS weren't about creating higher than average return on equity. They created equity.

              Regarding whether I know anything about getting started, I still remember the table in our living room where my wife started her law practice and the wooden bench with in the basement of the half duplex we rented from someone we knew at church where I started making boards that I sold off-the-shelf and the custom boards. I remember my wife quitting her job with the legislature when the side legal projects overwhelmed her. I remember negotiating four days a week for the same pay with my boss after our first baby and quitting after our second baby because my boards were doing so well. Our income was several times what we made from jobs. Then there were a bunch of huge ups and downs for both of us related to amazing/problem clients/employees. I know something about owning our own jobs and turning them into businesses that struggle to earn as much as freelance jobs. I know something about business but am not expert yet. Over the course of the year we average decent profits and are slowly building wealth. We know at least SOMETHING about it.
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            • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
              Hey star do you volunteer with Score?
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              • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 6 months ago
                In the past, yes, but I'm not right now. It's a really great organization, but we've been traveling so much for the past three years, I just can't fairly mentor anyone.

                If anybody is thinking about starting a business, SCORE will tell them exactly what they need, where their business plan is weak and how much money you will need to start up a small business.

                The number one mistake people make when starting a small retail store is that they think you "don't need much money". It's also why 85% of all small businesses fail within 5 years. Almost anybody will stick out year 1 based on their savings, year 2 on credit cards, year three by taking every cent that came into the store since starting, year 4 by dismissing all employees and working any family still willing to help out for free and year five it ends with no credit left, no cash left and you can't pay the rent anymore from the cash coming in. There are many bad decisions that are made along this path from renting a store front in the wrong place to cutting the advertising budget when things get tight - when what is more often needed is buying more advertising.

                What determines when a business will fail can be as simple as a appetite for eating out too much or gambling, just too relax. Money is a tool and you will use it or waste it, but to the small businessman with a startup company, you can't afford to waste a penny. You NEVER have enough money to start a retail store as a SB owner and you never have enough cash to KEEP things running when things are tight if you aren't a good manager and you are prone to thinking that money is anything other than a tool. You don't use a airplane to build a house - and you can't build a business by thinking that you can "bootstrap" a startup with spare change.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago
    @YourName I reject the idea that one person drives the economy. The decline started in the 70s, making it really hard to shoehorn the data into supporting/condemning particular politicians. I'm amazed that anyone even does that without getting paid.

    The study is very troubling, though. I would have expected entrepreneurship to have increased because the Internet lowers barriers to entry. The results were completely opposite from what I thought.

    The article is quick to say it's not as simple as taxes. I agree. But what is the cause?

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    • Posted by $ 10 years, 6 months ago
      My opinion is that a great deal of the issue is the onerous regulations placed on a business that make it very expensive for people to do business in this country. It may not be taxes per se, but the cost of doing business here has gotten progressively (pardon the pun) more expensive under this administration for sure.
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 6 months ago
      well-one group that is left out (likely) are likely independent contractors who haven't moved into corp or LLC status. They would not be accounted for and one has to think with the sophistication in communication over the last 15 years these business people have increased significantly.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 6 months ago
        I waited years before becoming an LLC. My wife did too. I wonder if our having an EIN as a sole proprietor made us show up in statistics. There was a time, though, when were both sole proprietors and had no W-2 employees.

        Come to think of it, our household has an EIN for domestic employees. I wonder if we get counted as a business. Probably not. They probably only count LLCs, S-corps, and C-corps.
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