I will vote for Hilliary Clinton.

Posted by Zero 8 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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I will vote for Hillary Clinton.

A Trump presidency scares me far worse than another 4 years of a normally corrupt and incompetent politician.

A charismatic call to xenophobia.
What could go wrong with that?

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At first I thought I'd just refrain from voting, but having identified the greater evil I must oppose it.


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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 6 months ago
    Listen to the words not the exaggeration the opponents twist them to.

    Trump simply said that with no functioning immigration process that murderers and rapists were coming in along with the immigrants from our southern border. Given the rampant drug cartels there and the flow of drugs, how can anyone doubt the reality of that?

    The only way it becomes controversial is to pretend he meant all illegal immigrants. And many have pretended he did. It doesn't make it so.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 6 months ago
    I would never vote for Hillary, especially considering there will be a Libertarian in the race, and the fact that my individual vote will not change the outcome of the election.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
    Did The Collector steal Zero's password?
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    • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago
      Why is it surprising that an Objectivist would oppose Donald Trump.

      In case you haven't noticed, pretty much all of us do.

      Not sayin' how many go so far as to support such a horrific alternative, but...
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 6 months ago
        No, Zero, it's not the opposition to HRM Donnie the statist, but the decision to consent to Tsarina Hillary the statist instead.
        A long shot with principles, Gary Johnson, is a more Objectivist choice, imo, but one could argue that striking the entire process is the rational response to the rigged system.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago
          Yeah, but again, Johnson has no chance of winning.
          Trump - god forbid - does. Perhaps a good chance.
          I have to actively support the lesser evil.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
            But you might explain why you view Hillary as the lesser. I view them as equally evil. And rather than go into it reference Ominous Parallels it's a book)
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            • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago
              I have it. Thanks.
              But if you don't think a megalomaniacal buffoon with charisma is more dangerous than a two-bit thief and liar, half-despised by her own party... well... I'm not sure what else to say.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
                Of course not one is one kind of Socialist one is another kind of socialist.but i like throwing gas on the fire to help destroy the system of a one party government with rigged elections. Bring your own marshmellows.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
          The best answer then becomes None Of the Above. The best action is a counter revolution. Because it's a legal move and requires the military to uphold it's oath of office. After that it's bullets in stead of ballots.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
          Not the opposite corporatist, statist, and union leaders are the three parts of socialist leadership. Typically socialist are mix of the three..they are not opposite they work in tandem. Trump is a socialst corporatist/statist. Clinton is a socialist statist/corporatist. Union leaders are the kick stand since there is no third wheel on penny farthing bicycle They do what they are told. Now the left has gone tricycle I suppose adding an additional kickstand of the GOP RInos. Something like wearing a belt and suspenders.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
            Translation Zero is a self confessed by public announcement evil person. Zero having identified his or her choice is evil. Cannot now claim to not know the difference. Zero chose to support the evil he or she identified as evil. Ergo Sum Zero is a self confessed evil person.

            We didn't make that distinction. Zero did.
            We can't absolve him or her of being evil. Only Zero can do that.

            Accordingly Secular Devil Zero....Get behind me. With the rest of the evil people.

            Nuremberg defense traps them every time.
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            • Posted by 8 years, 6 months ago
              It's interesting you bring up Nuremburg, since Kristallnacht is what I fear from Trump's Troops.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 6 months ago
                I wasn't going to say that we have people with tender feelings but that is correct. The Nuremberg defense is a plea of guilty with mitigating circumstances that makes a plea for lighter sentencing. The historical phrase is "I vass only chust following Orders mein Herr."

                So Zero are you ready to absolve yourself? Don't answer that. This is not Nuremberg.
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