Galt's Gulch

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  • Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 7 months ago
    I think that happens to some extent here now. The White house can certainly put pressure on news outlets that don't support their positions. Obama signed a law making it illegal to protest near someone under Secret Service protection. They talk openly about prosecuting climate change skeptics. A law preventing criticism of a foreign leader seems a natural progression for todays politicians.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 7 months ago
      Free Speech Zones were set up under Bush. None of the statists want free speech (except a free pass on their own lies, of course.)
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      • Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 7 months ago
        Truth. I don't really see a candidate that will change the path we are on.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago
          So your next course of action or better put your next options (plural) are?

          Vote for a candidate that will continue us on the same path.

          Vote to change the system by voting in a different manner (possible depending on the state) Vote in the primaries but not in the General Election

          Vote for anything except the President/Veeper selection leave it blank

          Vote using a valid write in

          The last two are not usable in any winner take all states as they are listed as 'for' one of your objectionable unacceptable refusals.

          Vote to change the system by not voting - The Undervote

          Vote to change the system by not registering to vote. Vote of No Confidence

          Just off the top of my head but then PolyScie was my major.

          The worst thing you can do is vote against your conscience or in anway cast a ballot that enables business as usual.

          Choices? We have choices !
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          • Posted by ChuckyBob 8 years, 7 months ago
            Another option is to vote with your feet and your taxes. The last few years I came to the conclusions that: 1. My vote did not count in the PRC (People's Republic of California) and 2. My tax dollars were being used very imprudently. So, I left the PRC and took my money with me. I have actually looked at moving to a country that is more compliant with my world view and surrendering my US citizenship, but so far I have not been able to talk my wife into doing that.
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            • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 7 months ago
              That isn't easy either, CB. American-style free trade is not welcomed overseas unless you go to a place that doesn't have the ability to administer the law. That comes with a lot of other compromises and usually means speaking a foreign language and suffering with the manana syndrome.
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              • Posted by ChuckyBob 8 years, 7 months ago
                Chile. If you live in the Las Condes, or Providencia sectors of Santiago you can get along nicely with mostly English (however, I can communicate quite well in Spanish). Also, in those sectors you can have a first world living experience. Also, you may have an overall lower tax burden. Rule of law is very strong in Chile. The German influence in Chile is strong. There is no siesta and the mañana mentality is not strong. Granted, most people can't pickup and move to a foreign country, but doing the passive non-vote does nothing to change things. The only true alternatives to get rid of a parasite (i.e. Federal Government) are to either starve it by figuring out how to not pay taxes, or kill it through revolution. I don't see a whole bunch of folks ready to arm themselves and storm the seat of government. Also, starving it is not super effective since they will just print more money. The only alternative then is to stop playing and leave. Before that happens the pain of the current situation has to be worse than the pain of change. Most people are not there yet. However, last year saw a record number of people leaving and surrendering their citizenship.
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years, 7 months ago
        Complete with cyclone fences and barbed wire - to "protect the free speakers", of course. Set up at the direction of the dotgov, and of course well out of earshot or visual of what they were speaking about.

        Lesson - be a good silent sheep, nodding your assent to our power, or you get thrown in the barbed wire topped cage with the rest of you troublemaking "free speech advocates".
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 7 months ago
    Europe has never been in favor of free speech. Once you go down the Socialist path, freedom of speech necessarily goes out the window. It's one of the reasons why they outlaw guns.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 7 months ago
    The first thing I thought while reading the article is that our EcoNazis are taking notes on how to suppress the free speech of manmade climate change deniers a along with the First Amendment. That could also go for shutting up those who criticize Obama over letting in thousands of Muslim refugees.
    I had another thought as I finished reading. Bet the Obama regime would be dead against that German comedian asking for asylum here.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 7 months ago
    Liberty is a sub concept of freedom. One has freedom to act as his body and mind are able to do. Liberty is the freedom to act which is not inhibited by laws of force. It is not the laws that are liberty, i.e., government does not make liberty, it can only reduce the freedom of a person and thus ones liberty.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 7 months ago
    This is PRECISELY why socialism leads to totalitarianism. Too much power in one place, and no matter how well meaning, it becomes misused and corrupted.
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