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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years ago
    After all, if the Ten Commandments is okay, then why not the Hindu Lord Hanuman? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Or The Dude from The Big Lebowski? Or a PETA banner? <br /><br />Because Hanuman, Flying Spaghetti Monster or The Dude had nothing to do with the creation or establishment of the United States; the 10 Commandments, however, were philosophically fundamental to the creation of the nation. The 10 Commandments have *historic* and *cultural* value, not simply religious value. <br />Do you really want a country run by Satan worshipers? <br /><br />The article is biased, with an agenda to promote, not only because of the above quote, but because they make the "mistake" of assuming "separation of church and state" is actually IN the Constitution, and therefore the 1st Amendment means protection from exposure to traditional, commonly held, culturally enduring religious views. <br />
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    • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years ago
      the 10 Commandments, however, were philosophically fundamental to the creation of the nation. <br />--- <br />No they weren't. The Founding Father's even explicitly stated that Christianity was not the basis for the American government. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/foundr0g.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticfiles.org/atheist/foun...</a>
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      • Posted by DrZarkov99 11 years ago
        Selective quotes aside, I believe the Founders (except for Ben Franklin) would describe themselves as "enlightened" Christians, who aspired to the best of what Christ said should be the goals of all of us. Most of them had disdain for the nonsense that accompanied the dogma of "organized" religion, but were admittedly not religious scholars. <br /><br />I strongly recommend reading "The 5,000 Year Leap", which traces the origins of American political philosophy from pre-Christian moral precepts to what motivated the thinking of the Founders. Cicero, the Roman philosopher who died before Christ was born, first and best stated what we espouse as human "rights" endowed by whatever force created us. Cicero logically claimed that certain behaviors were unopposed by nature, and could only be limited by force applied by other humans. Absent the dogma of organized faith, this is part of the basis of Deist belief, with the other components being an observation that since nature favors positive behavior with positive results, a positive force may be ascribed to the mystery of why we exist.
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