Colleges are Diversifying? Not Exactly
Mamaemma and some others have told me about the experiences of their sons, daughters, and themselves in colleges due to their libertarian/Objectivist/non-conformational views. I will probably get in some troubles because of my views. Does anyone have experiences, advice, or comments to share related to this?
One quick note: Since I am not a subscriber to the Wall Street Journal, I wasn't able to access the article they based this off of. It seems to be interesting; the title is "The One Kind of Diversity Colleges Avoid" and the link is found in the article, for anyone who wants to read it.
One quick note: Since I am not a subscriber to the Wall Street Journal, I wasn't able to access the article they based this off of. It seems to be interesting; the title is "The One Kind of Diversity Colleges Avoid" and the link is found in the article, for anyone who wants to read it.
Then go into college understanding that the real purpose of a college education is for you to learn how to learn, not what your professors try to ram down your throat, and that what you get from your education is really up to you--not just what you're taught.
I didn't graduate from college knowing everything; but I did graduate from college knowing how to figure anything out that I didn't know.
I strongly agree with this. It gets you on your path and off the path that the high schools, colleges, and other people set for you. It would be a scary path looking forward, but years later you'd wonder why you were scared at all.
While you're working as a test technician or whatever you could take two classes at a time, possibly partially paid for by the employer's tuition reimbursement program.
If you can't go this far, maybe you'd instead select a school that has a good co-op program that puts working in your field in some way early on. The rubber meeting the road of getting the work done is more important than people's viewpoints.
A number of my attorney friends, as well as those who wanted to become educators (to counter the current spate of statist nanny-programmers) are learning this firsthand.
Amazingly (maybe not so much), still found myself involved with law years later on; contract and contract claims, administrative/regulatory law.
I am not representative of the whole of FIT, but there are relatively few signs for Hillary or Bernie here. Most people here would vote for one of us for president, rather than any of the politicians.
Everyone here does agree with this famous Ayn Rand statement:
"Independence is the recognition of the fact that yours is the responsibility of judgment and nothing can help you escape it-that no substitute can do your thinking, as no pinch-hitter can live your life-that the vilest form of self-abasement and self-destruction is the subordination of your mind to the mind of another, the acceptance of an authority over your brain, the acceptance of his assertions as facts, his say-so as truth, his edicts as middle-man between your consciousness and your existence."
Read more at: http://www.azquotes.com/author/12074-...
“Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Leave them alone.”
If that fails you can always borrow my toaster.
So having worked my way (full time job + full time school + wife + kids) through my entire undergraduate and graduate career, I will tell you that the first thing you need to figure out is what kind of work you enjoy. Next, figure out how much that is worth to you in terms of education and include in that evaluation the costs of obtaining the education and the lifetime earnings of that position. If you aren't paying for your education in <5 years, you are either in the wrong subject or attending the wrong school.
Next, research the aid you can qualify for. This isn't mooching. Pell Grants are a reimbursement on your taxes and the businesses which offer scholarships, etc. get tax write-offs. Take advantage of everything you can find. Many large universities have endowment funds in billions of dollars and can afford to pay down their own hyper-inflated costs.
Last, as the poet says "Get 'er done!". School is a means to an end. Treat it as such. Don't work yourself to death, but prioritize your education over the parties. (I do heartily endorse the semester-ending pizza-study party just before finals week, however!) And don't go spending your money on vacation trips to Europe or Baha and that nonsense while in school. Reward yourself when you walk that aisle with cap on head and braids on your shoulders.
You'll probably have to take a philosophy class or some other taught by some self-important progressive. I did, refused to compromise on my end paper position and though I had an A to that point ended up with a B in the class. My principles were more important to me than assuaging the ego of a university professor who couldn't even bother to put up a logical argument and so resorted to simply grading me down. Realize that such are beneath you as a thinking adult. Move on.
however, carrying AS around campus was problem
enough! . I was in machine design and remain
convinced to this day that I lost a letter grade more
than once because of it. . even in engineering in
the '66-70 interval. . you may want to be cautious
about your self-revelation on campus, Sarah. -- j
p.s. of course, I was flaunting Rand -- one need not
do that to engender friendships, but I wanted to try.
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I've grown very cautious.
to be in this strange world. . please know that there are
many of us on here who wish you the very best daily --
like we were, or are, praying for your future. . my wife
and I never had kids, so you are "there" for us in a
sense. . be the future, Sarah, and there is hope!!! -- john
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(I love travel and meeting people. I care about the environment, concerned about carbon, and want to stop racism .. ) If you are here you know the passwords.
Another approach is to avoid any subject in what are called the social sciences, instead go for ' ..the outliers .. engineering and similar professional schools'.
Choice of school, as jbrenner says.
Yes the article focuses on faculty, but if there is an interview to enter as a student, be prepared.
working while going to school. . I worked as a drafter
while learning engineering and got a chance to interact
with the engineers who were designing the machine
(a railroad tie replacement machine, then) and it taught me
to learn the subject first, and then work for a grade.
I had those priorities set equal, before that. -- j
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The best example I recall is the comparison of two different professors of Economic Geology I had. In my senior year I had a professor that had just retired from 40 years in the mining industry. He recommended a textbook on Ore Deposits. A new type each week. Invariably he would bring in his own specimens from world class mines featured in the book saying that when he was there the thinking was such and such as to the genesis of the deposit. Fascinating. I was hooked.
So, in grad school I took another graduate level Economic Geology course. The guy was worthless. Had never been in industry, all academic and limited to a rare type of ore deposit completely unrepresentative of most of the world. He was substituting for the main professor that taught the course that had suddenly gone on sabbatical. I had chosen the original economic guy to be on my thesis committee and now I was also stuck with the substitute guy on my committee. I had many questions regarding ore specimens from my thesis area and made an appointment with him for consultation. I would hand him a specimen from my box and inquire about the alteration or the mineralogy. He would limp wristedly hold the rock and then drop it back into the box without answering. After several specimens the look on my face prompted him to say "I don't have much experience with hydrothermal deposits". That only constitutes about 90% of all economic ore deposits. Worthless.
Long story short, he never gained tenure and was actually fired. So he starts a consulting business for the gold exploration business in Arizona. I ran into him in the halls of the USGS one day. Cordial. He asked me what I was up to. I told him I was staying reasonably busy doing consulting and contracting work for the gold exploration business. Not only that, but I co-owned a gold mine with visible gold in veins at the surface. I had a specimen in my jacket pocket and showed it to him. He looked at it quick and said "nice pyrite". Once again, the look on my face gave him pause. He looked again and said "that's gold isn't it?" Uh, yeah.
I was not worried about competition in the business from him.
I really think it's a non-issue. The important thing is the truth. All of this stuff in the article about finding merit with leftwing or rightwing "positions" in education is nonsense. "Positions." The very language refers to politics, not science. It's as if the author watched talking heads argue and thought that's how the world really works. Figuring things out and getting things working take hard work. The stuff in the article IMHO is irrelevant to education and research.
If I'm right, the school having a good internship program could be 100 times more important than what people there think of your ideas things like cutting taxes.
I'm approaching the question from an engineering standpoint. It's possible other subjects, like political science, may be a different world I don't understand. Also things may have changed since I went to school in the 90s. But I think, and certainly hope, that the issue from the article is a tempest in a teapot.
I think of the world as facts and models. Science by its nature encourages people to find new evidence that overturns existing facts and models.
When I hear about "balanced viewpoints" I think of these thought processes:
1. The evidence shows homeopathy has no effect.. For balance, though, let's hear from the few scientists who think it does have an effect.
2. Science can never be value neutral. It's always colored by observers' cultural biases. That has led to evil things like science being used as justifying slavery. In modern times, funding biases researchers against homeopathy and for corporate-produced medicines and foods. Since science cannot be value-netural, the universe in inherently unknowable. Let's not even try to find fundamental truths and instead pick based on good values that will lead to desirable conclusions.
3. I'm trying to understand some policy issue, so I'll listen to rant from Mike Malloy and then a rant from Rush Limbaugh and pick the truth after hearing both sides.
Maybe you can think of some examples where exposure to different viewpoints really is helpful.