Galt's Gulch

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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago
    Sounds like the conversation Bernie sandwich must of had with his first wife in the dirt floor house they lived in. He didn't have a job till he was 40 and that was in government.

    Seems that same mental mindlessness is attracted to Bernie...now you know why.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 8 months ago
    Thank you, kategladstone. Now I understand young idiots who adore Bolshevik Bernie a little better.
    It's the way they rationalize being freaking lazy!
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 8 months ago
    and it isn't just the u.s. which is losing it. . take a look
    around the planet. . ISIS fights and tears things down;;;
    the Belgians pretend at life;;; the Pope decries capitalism.
    we are losing it. . if it weren't for gulcher-like people,
    the planet's human life would collapse. -- j
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  • Posted by Ben_C 8 years, 8 months ago
    So who is at fault? The woman with zero self esteem otherwise she would have kicked the bum out long ago, or the guy with zero motivation who has found a good thing. And what about the parents? Where is their 2x4? Isn't it grand the change in our society from long standing liberal policies? (Sarcasm). New Zealand is looking really good about now.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 8 months ago
    The woman in the first article allowed the discussion to go on for too long. Why listen to anything a leaching bum has to say. The 2 men in the next article started to have a point then lost it. It is better to work smart than hard. If you are educated and well trained you can get to a position where you make more money for less hours put in. They obviously want to put zero hours in. Thru government handouts and girlfriends like this we have a coddled generation. Where is John Galt?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 8 months ago
    There has always been bums and moochers leeching off those who work and produce. Whose fault is that? Two words "Get Out." would suffice but then there have always been those who are willing to walk around covered in leeches...one can pity them but one should not feel compelled to give blood nor anything else. Let them die.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago
    "What would life have been like 500 years ago if every young adult said to their parents, “I refuse to work on the farm, nobody should have to work hard, I want to just sit around and think”. "
    The amazing thing is technology has made it possible for people to work very little and enjoy the same lifestyle people worked hard for 500 years ago. As the article points out, though, the people saying this want cars, iPhones, and an affluent life without working for it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 8 months ago
    It has been said that the whole point of automation and robotics is to eventually take physical labor out of the hands of humans. But there's a caveat. How long will it be before those same machines develop the ability to do creative thinking? Some say never. As the saying goes, never say never. At the end of the 19th century it was commonly believed that man could never travel faster than a mile a minute. If the above comes true, then humans will become superfluous. The only answer to keep that from happening is productive work. Productive work means everything from the arts, to science. Otherwise, in the future, humanity will be no ore significant that a flesh pudding.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago
    I really hope she ditches the guy. He's a 12-year-old in a 19-yr-old's body - probably expecting someone else to pay for his video gaming and party life.

    I'm just glad my daughters know what to look for in a young man: someone with a strong work ethic, good skills, and a willingness to do whatever it takes to get a good education.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 8 months ago
    Hello kategladstone,
    Useful idiots... I suspect they are not all male, but this one in particular needs a good spanking. My generation was not raised so.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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    • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 8 months ago
      You know when I was younger my mom was asking me to do something. I told her to F off, not realizing that my dad was behind me.

      My dad picked up a two by 4 that was on the ground and smacked me the butt so hard it cracked the 2x4 and made me remember the incident sharply for a week every time I sat down, and sit tenderly for a month.

      At the time I was hitting a very rebellious stage. This incident cured the problem in me. I understood there were lines that you do not cross.

      Today this would be child abuse, but for me it was a golden learning moment that improved the person I am for the rest of my life.

      I had earned a spanking with my fathers hand before, but this instance was one time, and the last time my dad ever spanked me. I insured I would never need it again by my actions.
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      • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 8 months ago
        Hello XenokRoy,
        Good to hear from you. I too asked for it, got what I deserved, but never did I consider it abuse. My Father never damaged anything but my excessive pride. He would not tolerate disrespect to my elders, but never inflicted corporal punishment that was not deserved, or caused physical harm beyond a welt. I admit my transgressions and also learned from them. It did not destroy my precious self esteem. Nonsense... for some of us it is a character builder. I learned mental discipline and tried to please him that much harder. These latest generations have been pampered and coddled. The results are guys like the one in the story. Generations like ours are largely being replaced with misguided, entitled, crybabies.
        Regards,
        O.A.
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        • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 8 months ago
          The schmuck in the story never once was taught the realities of life. Why did the girl's parents let that loser live in their house?!? Why didn't the girl get rid of that ass? Everyone around him was enabling his fantasy. Why should he change? What was in place to prevent such behavior? Why wasn't he living in his parents' house? Could it be that they weren't coddling him, but his girlfriend's parents were willing to do so? Stories like this just leave me wracked with yawns, because it's nothing but drama; if I want drama, I'll go to the movies.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago
        Well said. There is nothing like the pain of other-discipline to teach one self-discipline - and most effective when one knows that the discipline was entirely merited. I fear, however, that many of today's generation have grown up so self-entitled that the notion of self-discipline is utterly foreign. I look at the Bernie Sanders supporters and only wish they had spent a few years living in a foreign nation to help them properly appreciate what the United States has to offer.
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        • Posted by kategladstone 8 years, 8 months ago
          There must have been a time — eons ago, in the remotest and most benighted prehistory of our species — when the concept of "self-discipline" had not yet been arrived at. Since millions (or billions?) of our kind are plainly hurtling in that backwards direction, as fast as they can go — do we have any inkling at all of how and when some long-forgotten prehistoric life-form (maybe not — or not yet — a human) managed to arrive at the concept of "self-discipline" (and ways to instill it) in the first place? Whatever was done, the first time around to spread the notion of self-discipline (and of effective ways to instill it) may need to be RE-done (and not lost or undone, this second time around, now that the work of that forgotten eons-ago "first self-disciplined one" is being erased at every moment).
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          • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 8 months ago
            Actually, I think self-discipline was the process of realizing that if you didn't work your butt off to grow food, you would starve. There are few motivations quite as powerful as simple self-preservation. The problem is that our society has gone out of its way to eliminate that (IMO) very healthy need for self-preservation by presenting social welfare programs and even prisons as surrogates.

            I fear that the only way that society-in-general will return to seeing themselves as their own owners - not only the solutions but the causes of their own problems so that they will muster up the courage necessary to act - will be an economic collapse. And the way we are going, the next one is going to make the Great Depression look tame.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 8 months ago
    I agree with what you are saying. It seems to me however that the problem is two fold. First we seem to have an utter lack of personal responsibility and second a refusal to reason things out to the obvious conclusion. As this younger generation is suffering from both of these afflictions at once things are more and more rapidly spinning out of control.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 8 months ago
    Average Americans. It brings me no joy to say that, too. Also...it's damn hard for young ladies to meet good men. Many of the guys have had their masculinity stripped, don't want to work, smoke dope, play video games, etc...
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    • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 8 months ago
      Don't dig your "many of the guys have had
      their masculinity stripped"....whose fault is
      THAT?? What REAL man would ever let THAT
      happen???
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      • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 8 months ago
        Because the goal of the educational system is to show that women can do anything that men can do. So young men are being made to feel useless.
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        • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 8 months ago
          Gimme a break! If young men are being made to feel useless it's because they permit themselves being made to feel that way (despite the fact that women CAN do
          pretty much of what men do)....excuses be
          gone!!
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          • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 8 months ago
            I'd like to be able to agree with you, but I think the indoc starts in childhood to boys these days - being told not to be so rough or loud or aggressive. Sadly, I think shifted society norms have squashed masculinity out of men. Dare I say - "Caitlin" Jenner !?
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            • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 8 months ago
              Actually,being told not to be loud, rough, etc.
              is good advice, another way of advising 'good
              manners' and applies to girls equally. But I get your point......too sad; too bad.
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              • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 8 months ago
                Yes, of course pushing a kid off the seesaw isn't ok, but beyond that imo, it has become an overall neuterization of both genders. No wonder transgenders seem to be proliferating- male and female roles are so confused today. Just as long as everyone gets a trophy it's all ok !
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            • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 8 months ago
              And what would you guess was the origine/cause of that childhood indoc?
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              • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 8 months ago
                I'd love to talk to a sociologist about it, but my guess would be the 'women's lib' movement, which ( being female ) had a good intention, but some really bad implementation. For example, poor men, tried to be gentleman, holding open doors or relinquishing seats on public transit, only to be sneered at by "liberated" women who can open their own door ! I think those gals confused the word 'liberated' with 'bitchy', so men, for the intervening generations, have been given TONS of mixed signals ( on a date do I pay or not pay ? Open the door or not ? Etc) and have mostly just collectively said screw it. So we now have no gentlemen, because we have no ladies. Except maybe in the south where I think women might be smarter about how to navigate such things.
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                • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 8 months ago
                  Funny you should use an example like that... We moved to Raleigh, NC, a bit over ten years ago. My wife described the area as "The sophistication of the Northeast meets the Genteelness of the South."
                  I hold doors for anyone and everyone who is near enough to the door I've opened and they all seem to feel comfortable with that.
                  Yep, I wouldn't expect that in NYC, but not expecting it, it might not bother me, other than a disappointment that more folks there don't enjoy the 'social lubrication of such acts that let us all glide more smoothly through life.'
                  I had a coworker in San Jose some 40 years ago who'd walk into the office, go to his desk and start work every day. Not so much as a good morning or hello. "He was there to work," he put it. One day I mentioned the "social lubrication" concept to him and amazingly enough, over the coming weeks, he started to use words like "Good Morning" and "Hello" and it really looked as if he was happier during those 'working hours' too!
                  Ah, well... life, cultures, etc...
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          • Posted by ohiocrossroads 8 years, 8 months ago
            Certainly not all of them. And having a good set of parents can overcome the indoctrination. But the odds of a John Galt coming out of the modern educational system is lower than it used to be.
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          • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 8 months ago
            +1 or more for realizing that and making that comment.
            For generations, women were seen as being inferior to men in pretty much ALL ways, despite evidence to the contrary.
            Recently, say, in the past three or four decades, they've demonstrated their capabilities to compete on men's 'playing fields' and tie or beat a lot of the men!
            If the 'men' can't stand the 'competition,' get those pussies 'out of the kitchen.' They don't belong there in the first place, and their whining just demonstrates their lack of ability to compete.
            Or is 'ohio' suggesting that Education's "Goal" should NOT be to encourage Every Person to be the best at what they can be the best AT?
            Very puzzling train of thought, imnsho...
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    • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years, 8 months ago
      Equally hard for good young men to meet good young ladies.
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      • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 8 months ago
        It's not that hard. Just don't settle for the first thing that comes along, and have some standards about what you want in a mate, so you know what to look for.
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        • Posted by KnowledgeisaBurden 8 years, 8 months ago
          Really? you know all about it???? anyone who claims they know everything expose themselves as ignorant, you speak for everybody everywhere?
          MANY weak minds out there, men and women are actually proud of their ignorance, so proud they are unwilling to even consider looking into anything that falls outside of their normalcy bias. I spend each day encouraging folks with concerning information believing that they would be complelled, nope, most met are 'thumbsuckers'
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