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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago
    Colbert just dumbed down the problem with cc through humor. Too bad his audience is already to dumb to realize the point. Ya can't fix stupid.... but you can make them laugh collectively and make bank in the process. I think he knows the truth...but his audience is a pile of tools...
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    • Posted by $ 10 years, 8 months ago
      The truth? What do you mean? Colbert acknowledged that the CC curriculum was nonsense. Did you actually watch the whole thing?
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      • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago
        He made fun of the idea that it is indoctrination. Right at the beginning. And the sheep laughed and laughed.
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        • Posted by $ 10 years, 8 months ago
          Yeah, and then at the end he made fun of the curriculum.
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          • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago
            But maph... making fun of something very serious is a slap in the face. Children's minds are at stake. Our freedom is hanging by a cheap thread and common core will snap it. And they laugh. It's down right scary.
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            • Posted by $ 10 years, 8 months ago
              At what point does Colbert ever say Common Core is a good thing? He doesn't. In fact, he voices pretty much the exact same complaints people here have voiced. I don't understand why you're upset about that.
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              • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 8 months ago
                He doesn't say anything but wise cracks. As if the people truly against cc are over reacting. He doesn't say the federal gov has no place dictating curriculum. He doesn't mention the other countries that have done this and what it produced and how things ended up for them. It is beyond bad but I know you don't understand that...so to you it's a joke.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
    The beginning was funny. I didn't get the end.

    The main criticism is: "OMG elementary school worksheets are sometimes confusing. This must a carefully orchestrated conspiracy from the highest levels of gov't to indoctrinate kids in an ideology."

    That nonsense bothers me b/c there are really bad things the gov't is doing, and they're not about the wording of school worksheets.
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
      your criticism is anecdotal and not CORE to the issue. Yes, those worksheets are annoying. they represent tangible proof reason is not being used in texts. There are other deeper concerns that have been documented. the posts on this site have been well researched and the arguments articulated. If you want to make this into a a caricature, go ahead. Offend me. I will follow you around on every post and Colbert YOU
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
        My kids aren't old enough for it yet, but it sounds like a minor annoyance. The major annoyance is you can't take your money elsewhere.

        My biggest complaint is I don't believe the outrage is real. There's a group of people who live ideological outrage. They'll shoehorn even the most mundane issue into something people are suppose to hate their neighbors over.
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        • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago
          My duaghter's best friend and my "adopted" daughter, to earn extra bucks runs a Mathnasium. It's a tutoring center K-12. They have to use worksheets which are CORE curriculum approved but their company publishes themselves. She often runs across these innane worksheets but understands the lingo used that's foreign to most of us. Some of it is reasonable, however, adds steps to solving problems which end up confusing many students. For instance, the one worksheet that has been going around asks kids to group a triple digit number into 100s, 10s ones. For the tactile learner this is great. Because they look at number 312 and only understand it in abstraction. Some kids can hang out in the abstraction, and understand doing stuff with 312 (adding, subtracting, multiplying). But eventually the tactile learner will have problems unless they have already learned to "see" the number 312 broken down and others, and so on. Her complaint with many of these worksheets is not the number line and the many ways of using it, but when the problem to solve is set up-a hypothetical student has used the system incorrectly-now find the mistake. She says it is often confusing to students and actually works against their ability to learn several methods of solving problems. At that young age, they often begin to confuse a "mistake" hypothetically given with the correct way to do it. The workbooks they use for tutoring does not add these clever twists but are forthright. They have found an angle to make much more money with high schoolers because certain classes have been left out altogether-geometry is now integrated and so most high schoolers are now not really learning geometry like we used to until they get to college. They are making good money teaching geometry to HSers preparing them for AP tests for college. So there is always a private angle if parents can afford it.
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
            1. Even though the system is troubled, people appear to help people navigate it.

            2. I have heard this is always a problem- if you hear an answer, even if it's wrong, you may remember it. So if you hear, "a study shows the mainstream vaccines recommended for kids are not dangerous," it's easy to remember "I heard something bad vaccines.

            I know that's a little different ,but it's the idea of even reading the wrong answer can make you remember the wrong way.

            3. Regarding there always being a private angle, we had never planned to use public schools. We had a bad experience with one private school, and now we're going to give a try. If we don't like it we an always switch. We interviewed several places, and the public option seemed about equal. I can see paying $11k per kid when the scales appear pretty close to balanced. Any nonsense, though, and they're heading to a school that will work with us. I thought all private schools would work with us. I never dreamed I'd be in a now 6-mo legal battle with a bunch of hippies, but that's exactly where we are. It sounds crazy, but we're in a hard-core battle that started over 10k buck. We'll spend that much in attorneys, but the hippies made me mad. Just watch an episode of Portlandia to see the humorous side of it.
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