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Scant of knowledge of their.and their nations, history and their rights as Americans.
Moral ambiguity and Cultural equivalence (siren song of socialism)
A deliberately constructed dismal future outlook combined with stories from Mom and Dad about how much better things were when they were kids
They've been steered into carrying the yoke and will not understand that reality until it firmly fastened.
Ive fought this battle with society my entire life for my kids. College has been the roughest. At best I raise social outcasts.
This is an evil plot by the Alinsky-ites to brainwash our young and prepare them for a socialist future.
And, sadly, it's working well.
When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
Adolf Hitler
Speech November 1933, quoted in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer
‘”We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” – Adolf Hitler (Speech of May 1, 1927)
TANSTAAFL!!!!!!
These kids can't help it. They are screwed from the start.
This leads into a related topic that I am going to start a new thread on.
I am going to sound like a nut here. But, I honestly think there is some sort of veiled direct attack on kids with stuff like Common Core. When you see what's in it you can't really think it's just a ham-handed, hairbrained scheme. There's something more to it...
The difference between this and the situation you describe, Abaco, is that kids are free not to join a certain club. When they are required to spend their time washing out bedpans in order to graduate, it's inexcusable.
Contrary to popular religious leanings, it is not money nor the love of it (read Francisco's incredible speech in Atlas Shrugged). I would argue that participating in this act is the actual "root of all evil."
When dealing with aspects of existence that do not include man, a human being quickly learns that it is impossible to get something for nothing. He then quickly becomes further aware and formulates a higher abstraction that "for nature to be commanded she must first be obeyed."
Unfortunately, when combined with what a friend terms the "ABC's of accepted morality" (Altruism, Brothers keeper, Common good), together with their inevitable politics, this morality logically leads to the now all-too-common "awareness" of seeming to be able to obtain something for nothing. It has literally become an industry. To the extent it and the morality that "justifies" it exists, it serves to reinforce the idea that not only can it be done, but that it is morally "proper" to expect, seek, and demand it!
Socialism satisfies the expectations and the political basis for its fulfillment.
And I think they look for a future in which the government will decide what gets made, and for whom, and how much of it, and what reward anyone will get.
"Sing to our rainbow fatherland,
Built by the people's mighty hand!
Long live the people, united and free!
Strong in our friendships tried by fire!
Long may our crimson flag inspire,
Shining in glory for all folk to see!"
Paraphrase of the refrain of the State Hymn of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Paul Robeson, original translator.
And maybe substitute "sky-blue" for "crimson." As in: the flag of the United Nations.
What none of them know is how the original USSR was run - you had the elites in the Politburo, the enforcers in the KGB and GRU, the black market profiteers, and millions of starving peasants. No such thing as a middle class.
Jan
Do you write poetry? You seem poetically inclined.
Jan
Cornucopia!
Cornucopia omnibus!
Clamose sonato,
Clamosem audimus,
Numquamque claudebimus!
Cornucopia omnibus!
Capitoli,
Lucet adamas tuus!
Tributum di...
...ebus atterimis!
Cornucopia omnibus!
Schadenfreude.
Jan
1. They at least partly believe progressive candidates are more open to new ideas.
2. There's not a viable alternative that argues against gov't intrusiveness.
3. They support them because they think policies that look socialistic on the surface are actually more efficient ways to deal with problems. For example, taxpayers paying for someone else's job training sounds socialistic, but if in some instance it's proven to reduce taxpayers paying for the criminal justice system, there's a selfish reason to support it.
4. People believe it's a good idea to help one another. They wrongly think socialistic policies are a way to do that.
5. They have seen some instance of unhealthy behavior, maybe addiction, theft, or fraud, and they wrongly thing this is what capitalism is about.
Great question!
I agree with most of what everyone has replied to this post. But since you are in high school, I would love to hear from you. What you see & believe to be the reasons for this support?
Ed
I would ask one more question. Since you are taught with the same teachers and books, what do you believe kept you from the same path as the others?
Students have no problem understanding that if they burned the midnight oil to ace the test, they should get the A; and that to give everyone an A [for effort?] degrades everything they put into their studies. However, they don't seem willing to extrapolate from that to the bigger world, and understand that there's a reason for income inequality, and much of health inequality. Part of it is luck; but a bigger part is intelligence and hard work -- passing up on the sweets and booze and cigarettes, and showing up for work on time and eager to work.
of the bad economy and student debt! -- j
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Example - I have a book for one of the classes I'm enrolled in - Intro to American Government - the book being "The Challenge of Democracy". THe first 4 pages is an entire diatribe on the glory and greatness of the social welfare system, how the wealthy are greedy and care less about the world, as long as they grab the money by raping the resources... and how the left is wonderful for all the social equality and welfare programs they provide to the poor.
It took a LOT of shaking my head, Pepto-Bismol, and (frankly) coarse language to get through that part. And yet - the people in the class (most of whom are 18-22) accept this as doctrine, and say this made them feel better about the class.
Why? Because they have been, for the first 14 years of their educational lives, well indoctrinated that Socialism and poverty and sacrifice for those with their hands out is good, capitalism and success and a positive sense of self worth are bad.
God help me - I need this class for my physics degree, but it makes my stomach lurch every time I open the book and read more of what their "target audience" calls "absolutely neutral, unbiased writing".
I looked up the book on Amazon - $143 for paperback. That's a huge gravy train for the author and/or publisher. Even a really good and popular paperback would not command that price without it being required for a class.
Does your school have an Objectivist campus club? It could be worth joining.
As part of that course, each individual will be assigned one individual from the book and argue that that character is completely correct and justified.
Character assignments will be randomly drawn, so one never knows if the argument will be from James Taggart's point of view, or from Quentin Daniels' perspective, etc.
If everyone had to consider the dystopia that Ayn Rand so beautifully and brilliantly created in A.S., I think at least some of them would quickly understand why they were wrong in their beliefs.
The idea that one is living in a loving, caring world that will take away all pain and suffering is attractive. Who wouldnt want that? All thats needed is a money tree. Both Hillary and Sanders promise that the money tree is there (the rich people) and will always be there without working to keep it alive. Cant we all just get along? Socialism will do all these things for you....
Did you ever watch Waters world? These kids do no know anything...even at a younger age we had a sense of it in my day.
They, like many, feel entitled; they have fallen for the "Rich" 1% when in fact that 1% that is greedy are the very one's blaming value creating, free market capitalizing, charity giving business creators...hence those that are pointing the fingers, like always, are the one's that have created the problems, invaded our once valued corporations as majority stock holders, board members or coerced them with regulations; then fleeced them for political donations.
The younger generation has been made in their image.
Not to mention, bad people are good and good people are bad...That is why they support bernie and hiltery for free stuff...
Just Wait till they start working at that 30.00 an hour minimum wage job and find out they are paying for all that so called "Free" stuff!
Sorry...guess I was venting a little.
It is not possible for Socialism to ever achieve anything else. It is anti-success, anti-individual, anti-mind, to be enforced at the point of a gun.
People look at external reality, see the poverty, oppression, destruction and death, and hear alleged intellectuals saying "socialism has always failed, and conclude that what they see is not necessarily the possible end result, maybe when it succeeds they will have Utopia. The alleged intellectuals are giving further efforts to achieve Utopia a moral sanction.
Whereas, if intellectuals told the truth, that Socialism has always succeeded, that it is not possible for Socialism to fail, people could look at external reality, 100% of all examples of Socialism, and conclude that Socialism and its advocates are evil.
Socialism survives because of the moral sanction by its alleged opponents.
these youngsters without educational anchors are facing
bleak job prospects with diminished pay rates and large
student debts, seeing billionaires doing soooooo well
despite the sour economy, and without doing the math,
they think "Let's balance this thing. . I'm being cheated."
so they look for a way to "balance" society and there
it is -- government force. . ouch. -- j
.
floundering around. . they have been shackled so heavily
that the process of pulling us up is seriously impeded. -- j
.
invested overseas because of our national business
taxes. . if we dropped those, we'd have jobs and
jobs and jobs. . so nutso! -- j
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"normal" rational thought among the political elites.
it's infuriating to me, and I try to make noise about it,
but it's like trying to teach a pig to dance. -- j
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--- Winston Churchill.
"If my son is a socialist at 20, that's not so bad. If my son is a socialist at 30, I'll disinherit him"
(I like Churchill's quote better.)
By the time I was 30, the world had changed me.
If these children want cloistered living perhaps they should choose to live in a convent.
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