Are Our Accounting Systems Innovation Killers?

Posted by khalling 8 years, 9 months ago to Business
53 comments | Share | Flag

from author Robert Brands:
"Halling says, “Our present accounting systems never show [that] internally funded inventions produce any value.”[1]To illustrate this point, he uses the example of a new cellular telephone that has come about due to millions of dollars worth of investments in numerous inventions. Even with the case of a new cellular telephone where most of the phone’s profits are based on its inventions and not to manufacturing, our present accounting systems “only allocate a return for the manufacturing of the phone and nothing for the inventions that made the phone possible.”[2] This seems perverse as the massive difference in price between the latest and greatest cellular phone and a cellular phone with old and outdated technology is due to the inventions in the new phone, not to manufacturing."

Interesting article with some interesting solutions. Check out his blog :)
SOURCE URL: http://www.innovationcoach.com/2016/02/01/are-our-accounting-systems-innovation-inhibitors/


Add Comment

FORMATTING HELP

All Comments Hide marked as read Mark all as read

  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    Clear away all the crap.
    Clear away all of the obtuse methodology.
    Clear away all the twisted economic systems.
    The facts are simple. Our entire economic system including accounting methodology is not based on tangibles, but on intangibles. Our economic system(s) have become more of a religion than an accounting method whose very foundation is faith. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by Lucky 8 years, 9 months ago
    The idea is sort of correct.
    The problem is one of interpretation, many expect accounting numbers and reports to do what they cannot do, that is, tell the future. Financial reports have a limited role. They look back.

    The standards require the stated value of assets to reflect with high certainty a monetary value - on the market or sometimes as a income stream.
    While the cost of research and acquiring rights as described is easy to quantify, the future benefit will always be subject to uncertainty especially with hi tech and inventions. So, the standards are correct in treating such costs as operating and not as capital.
    The solution is as savvy investors know, look at the financial reports - yes. But look more carefully at those other assets, this requires expertize in the field and good judgement.

    While I am rambling, accounting reports have three functions:
    demonstrate fiduciary duty and legal compliance,
    provide information for management decisions,
    and sometimes, for behavior modifiction.
    They do not and can not provide all information needed by a prospective investor.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
      The article was not clear on this point. It is just wrong that accounting systems attribute all returns to manufacturing and none to inventions. In fact, most of the profit of most companies today is because of their inventions not their manufacturing.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
        I think Lucky did a better job of describing the same thing that I did. Accounting systems are not a be-all and end-all of corporate analysis. They have their purpose and it's an essential one. It is necessary to accurately report financial transaction. Valuing a business as a whole is more complex than just accounting.

        My company utterly relies upon a software product that we've created as the core of its business. Any valuation of our company would have to take that into account as well as the potential of the customer base in terms of volume and location. None of that matters on a day to day basis.

        On a day to day basis, what matters is what money we spend and what we spend it on and what money we get and where it comes from. This is the realm where accounting is king. While our program is a valuable asset, it doesn't allow us to pay people. Selling licenses and installing systems does.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
          william, in large corporations decisions are based on accounting systems. and as GAAP oozes into internal accounting systems (companies working from 2 sets of books) there is fatigue. You end up having marketing and accting teams making decisions on the move forfard. It often leads to mature cycles. Keeps an IBM from inventing, for example. R&D is essential to the log life of a company. where is that in the books? it isn't. and it would be an objective move to the long life of a company. so resources moving through different depts tend to first stop at manufacturing, then marketing, last R&D. of course, unless the company is focused highly on invention.
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
          • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
            Well, I'll agree with you there, but I don't think the problem is the accounting system. I think it's operating properly. I think the problem is idiots who look only at near term financial projections in making business decisions. Sadly, your observation that large corporations are full of such idiots is right on.

            But blaming the accounting system is like blaming the hammer for not working well with screws. You use the wrong tool and you get the wrong results.

            In business, I've often used the metaphor of an airline flight. You plan your course and destination. To succeed you need to be able to hit your destination. However, it's not enough to follow the right course. You're altitude must always remain positive or you won't get there even if your course is right.

            Accounting is the altimeter.
            Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
            • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
              well of course the company will do what it needs to do ongoing concern. Part of the problem is securities laws and yes, GAAP very definitely affects how a company is used to thinking-esp if large. after all, a SARBOX will look at two sets of books as suspect. The more GAAP aligns with IRS rules and securities regs, the more it bleeds into how a company thinks long term. We have represented many fortune 500 companies, we are intimately aware of how this works. Dale has worked as an R&D engineer for McDonnell Douglas and represented as a patent atty to Ameritech, Cypress, Motorola, Boeing...I can go on. and I find your argument a little disingenuous since your company is not willing to pay for IP ...
              Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
      The entire system, world-wide, is fantasy. As a result, it is subject to manipulation on a grand scale, or just enough to keep a person rich. If real money, based on real assets or services were the only thing the economy was based on, the scams, the Ponzi schemes, the manipulations, the screwy accounting hoop-jumping, would become obvious immediately and as a result not succeed. I am not an Utopian. I realize that such an economy is no longer possible. But, what is possible, is a movement in the direction of real assets as opposed to make-believe assets. However, it most likely would take more courage than any politician has to date to move the economy toward reality. Plus, the squeal of economists, accountants, money managers, hedge fund operators, and stock marketers would be deafening.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
    Accounting is just one of the tools necessary to manage a company if you rely only on that, or focus only on near term profits you are eventually doomed.

    The point that inventions and IP assets are a core value for a company is certainly valid. They provide for future growth and survival. They don't, on the other hand, provide cash for this weeks' payroll. That has to be in the bank.

    I would suggest that accounting is a short term management tool and an understanding of your IP and other assets is a long term management tool.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 9 months ago
    There hasn't really been that much innovation in cellular phones anyway. Most of the profit in them comes from taking actions that anyone ought to be able to do for free with his own purchased hardware -- such as take pictures -- and rig the phone to turn them into billable events. In effect, all the phone companies are preying on their customers. The companies were so over-optimistic about our willingness to pay for these features when they first came out that they created the bubble that led to the 1999 dot-com boom.

    Let them offer real value and people will be willing to pay for it.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
      Really? So hot spots and cameras and GPS and real time traffic maps, and routing maps and innumerable things to improve reception are just standard off the shelf stuff. That is just absolute nonsense.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden by post owner or admin, or due to low comment or member score. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
    I checked this one to follow the comments from the economic and financially astute.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Comment hidden by post owner or admin, or due to low comment or member score. View Comment
    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
      I stopped in the wrong spot.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
        minus 1. I have many graduate level accounting and economic classes under my belt. Not to mention the fact that Dale and I operate a successful business and represent dozens of successful start-ups. Sorry to disappoint you, Michael.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
          But you don't manufacture or sell a product. I understand that IP is the most important thing to you and I agree with Dale that Invention is the source of our growth in prosperity.

          On the other hand don't downplay the importance of producing goods. IP is worthless unless someone manufactures goods and sells them. If you have developed IP you can:

          1. produce and sell products yourself which will give you money based on your production.

          2. license the IP to someone else who is going to produce and sell products to get money.

          3. become a patent troll and sue other companies who are producing and selling products to get a portion of the money they get.

          In the end, the source of the money is the products that are produced and sold. Attributing all your revenue to the IP will distort your production decisions and your subsequent revenue.
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by dwlievert 8 years, 9 months ago
    In reading this thread two thoughts have occurred to me.

    1. Much like Newton, who, having a number of profound thoughts about gravity and motion, had to invent the Calculus in order to demonstrate and prove their “truth;” or as Rand, who, having a vision of how she wished to display her love of writing, had to invent a philosophy in order to project the heroic “truth” of her characters; the ancient merchants, who, wishing to engage in trade using endless numbers of middle-men when transacting with their customers, invented “double-entry” accounting in order to successfully do so. It is an absolutely essential aspect of keeping proper score of economic “truth.”

    On the other hand, it carries with it the potential, when economic “truth” becomes but one of many values pursued, of being a “double-edged” (no pun intended) sword. It does so because:

    2. To the extent an enterprise becomes focused internally rather than on its external market and customers, it tends to serve a false God. It quickly builds a bureaucracy that becomes primarily concerned with its internal political “workings” at the expense of the external reasons for its existence.

    Becoming focused on “keeping score,” whether forced to do so by the law, or because of perhaps trying to obtain something for nothing, is wasteful, and carries with it the potential for disception.

    A deceptive waste that in a competitive environment will lose to those less deceptive and wasteful.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      let's start here: " Rand, who, having a vision of how she wished to display her love of writing, had to invent a philosophy in order to project the heroic “truth” of her characters"
      are you kidding?
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
        I do not understand that you think Rand was looking for a philosophy to explain her fiction. Philosophy is developed. We can critique the philosophy. fair game. Your statement is cynical and not rooted in the actual reality of Rand's work. I call context dropping
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago
          Ayn Rand started with a sense of life at a very early age and wanted to be a writer to project it. But she had to formulate a full philosophy to explain and justify it, including how to present it in fiction. A sense of life is an implicit philosophy, and she started writing and portraying it long before she had a fully formed explicit philosophy. Atlas Shrugged was the culmination when she was able to portray her vision of the "ideal man" which she had sought to do for so long and which her philosophy made possible.
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by blackswan 8 years, 9 months ago
    First off, accounting is limited in what it can measure, viz., only those things that can be counted; most of the most important things are immeasurable. Aside from innovation, what is the cost of a dissatisfied customer? So, there's your first problem. Secondly, as a result, a lot of the accounting data must be ignored in favor of a strategic vision that drives the company forward. This is, in the end, a measure of the quality of your management team. How to measure that? This is often accounted for in accounting by so-called "good will." Clearly, innovation will lead to good will, but how can you measure it? Until a product or service is in the market, earning revenue, innovation is a cost center, after which some of it can be amortized over the life of the product or service. At one time, one might expect to be able to amortize innovation over years or decades. Now, it must be done over no more than a year or two, due to rapid obsolescence. If we want to reward companies for their innovative efforts, it's difficult to do so, particularly since we don't know which efforts will pay off. The fall back position must be what shows up in the marketplace, and call it a day.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 9 months ago
      You reminded me of a meeting I was in at the last company I worked for.
      The marketing manager wanted to brainstorm ideas for increasing market acceptance and penetration of our new and allegedly promising technology.
      Lots of ideas were offered up. Finally, I said that we should GIVE lots of systems and software to Colleges and Universities' computing schools.
      The 'kids' would love to be Part Of Things and provide fresh eyes for innovations and debugging, AND when they graduated and entered "the real world," they'd be more comfortable and familiar with the benefits of OUR product.
      Well, that was like tossing a baked-dry meadow-muffin against the side of a barn. Didn't stick at all, and to my non-surprise, the long term result was a very mediocre acceptance (and success) of those products in the overall market.
      Such is Life In The Big City... and in Big Corporations.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
        Interestingly, our company's product is laboratory information software. We give free copies to schools who are training laboratory technologists to use in their training for pretty much the reasons you gave. We can't quantify any return at this point but it's a relatively minor expense.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 9 months ago
          William, I did not mean to imply that ALL corporations are completely stupid... I would have encouraged your company's strategy if anyone asked!
          But I've worked at two corporations which were, for sometimes a LONG time... successful despite a lot of poor management thinking. I brought some great innovations to the first one and brought some valuable skills to the second one. The second one had a very strong antibody-like reaction to NIH ideas that didn't "come from the right sources," and I think that kind of non-Critical Thinking really hurt them in a lot of markets.
          And I'm retired now and still in friendly contact with many alumni of both companies.
          Although we Are starting to die off... age does that, to a degree...
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
      The article was not clear on this point. It is just wrong that accounting systems attribute all returns to manufacturing and none to inventions. In fact, most of the profit of most companies today is because of their inventions not their manufacturing.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago
        Does that statistic include manufacturing of the inventions or just royalties or sales from patents? Does current accounting make it possible to include the value of owned patents in the manufacture based on them?
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
          Current accounting states that all the profits come from manufacturing. Only if the invention (patent, copyright, trade secret) is licensed is it shown to have any return. As a result, any hard headed businessman see that he makes no money from inventions according to his accounting system. This cause all sorts of bad decisions that I discuss in detail in my book Source of Economic Growth.
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
          • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
            I'm missing something, Dale. How do the current reports indicate all profit is from manufacturing?

            Assuming this is true, wouldn't an internal charge to manufacturing and a revenue credit to R & D display the value being earned by the IP (similar to a royalty fee as if the IP was licensed to manufacturing)?. This internal accounting is done frequently for other items. I have no data but I imagine some companies are already doing this.
            Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
            • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
              When you calculate ROI, all the inventions have been expensed so they are not considered to contribute to the return. They are not shown on the balance sheet either. What is needed is that the accounting systems (internal) show what value is appropriately attributed to the inventions and what is appropriately from manufacturing.

              Yes that would work, but in fact I do not think it is being done at all
              Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
              • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
                Perhaps you should contact some of your clients and see if they can get a group in R and D to promote and propose doing the easier part, that is, the internal transfers to better account for revenues. You should expect some resistance from those being charged though, so you will need a top down approach. I don't see the balance sheet changes coming unless there is wide acceptance of the revenue changes first.
                Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
                • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
                  I would enjoy doing that, however my direction is to focus on writing our novels and advancing a variety of ideas. I just don't have the energy or interest to drum up this business anymore and I don't have any perfect clients to pitch these ideas.


                  Here is my post that explains this better http://hallingblog.com/2010/03/14/acc...

                  "As Nathan Myhrvold puts it, inventing is funded under a charity model. "
                  Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago
    I would suggest that it isn't the accounting or its tools per se which are the problem, but rather the way that compensation plans are structured. In large corporations, these are notoriously short-sighted. Take the record of one Carly Fiorina - erstwhile CEO of Lucent before manning the helm at HP. Her compensation plans were focused on the short-term return to the company and as a result, she made short-term decisions to ramp up marketing and kill R&D because this emphasized more current sales and lower current costs which translated into higher profits - all of which came at the expense of long-term corporate profitability. It also encourages mergers and acquisitions for the same reason, as well as layoffs (aka "right-sizing").

    Look at the startup companies which have gone big, like Google or Facebook. They started out where the compensation plans were wholly dependent on the long-term and largely unknown intellectual capital being put into each. Only after they started seeing market success could their true value start to be calculated (with past returns being used to estimate future growth and profitability). It's one of the reasons Google still rewards risk-taking and side-projects with no quantifiable future value - because they recognize that they don't know how to quantify the future.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
      Not the point. If you measure the wrong things, you get the wrong answers.
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago
        The problem is in measurement in the first place. I am not arguing with you the necessity of intellectual innovation. The problem lies in the ease of measurement and the inherent uncertainty in dealing with projections. The other problem is that many do not differentiate between the two very different skills of 1) leadership and 2) management.

        Managers depend on measurements to get anything done. Most managers don't get to their positions as department heads, etc. based on "I think I can do that", but rather "I DID do that". One is ambiguous, the other concrete. Can it be measured easily and concretely: Did the project get completed? How many widgets did we sell last month? These can all be specifically and precisely measured. Accountants and managers operate on measurement - on history being used to portray a picture of the future. Their tools are based on the same.

        Leaders are much more rare. Leaders are the ones who see the valuable potential in a course of action. Potential, however, is not quantifiable with any degree of precision or accuracy (being used in the scientific definitions). You can't budget around potential. It's almost impossible to get an operating loan from a bank based on potential. So how do you build tools around the unknown? I work in IT and this is our constant battle. And no one is ever satisfied with "I don't know" even though it is the most common answer we have to give!

        Yes, focusing on historical, quantifiable measures tends to lead to laying out budgets and future business plans based on those measures. I agree. The question is whether or not the head of the company is a leader who can not only envision the future but sell that future to the company in terms which translate the abstract into the concrete enough to get someone to believe and follow that vision. I know you're going to hate the analogy, but it fits: management is like science - it deals with empirical evidence. Leadership is like religion, because it deals with a vision of the future and relies on the faith of the follower.

        Your complaint is that many companies don't continually invest in visionary leaders. That's a valid concern IMO. And it becomes even more difficult to retain a visionary leader as a company becomes successful and goes public because now there is a more concrete expectation of return on investment, which shifts the focus away from the novel and visionary to the stable and strategic. I look at Steve Jobs as a visionary and his problems with Apple Computer over the years as a perfect example of this.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
    Accounting systems are tools.
    Blame the people who unethically or ignorantly manipulate them, not the tools.
    We in the Gulch don't blame guns for homicides either.
    Reply | Mark as read | Best of... | Permalink  
    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      accounting systems are required by LAW. and crony systems which affect how costs are "expensed" play a deep role into how companies look at their capitalization. did anyone read the damned article?!
      Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
        Yes, we did -- and some of us run businesses. One of the things you need to separate is strategic planning and cash. Investing money in R&D is a near term expense. You might come up with a really great invention that will make you billions in the next decade, but today it's an expense.

        Which is why valuing a company and managing it looks beyond accounting -- if you are doing it right.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
        Yes, read the article. You want to change the ethics of the people that use the data.
        Its not the accounting rules that are the problem. Yes, valuations are not accurately allocated, but I don't see any solution being presented that accountants and users will accept. Yes, the data is manipulated.
        The people that publish these documents don't actually want the reports to be better so there is no demand to change them. Analysts use other sources of data to estimate value and don't want the public to have easy access to that data. Most of the public doesn't do due diligence so they don't care. Accountancy historically prefers to be "conservative" in valuing things that aren't easy to quantify. The accountants are at risk of suit by company and shareholders if they don't.

        Better to try to break the securities rules that allows only "approved" firms to sell company equities in volume.
        Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
        • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
          Yes it is the accounting systems. They show companies make money from manufacturing, when they really make money from their inventions. How hard is that to understand?
          Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
          • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
            Then present an objective way to change reporting that protects the interests of the accountants, the analysts, and the manipulators on Wall Street who write the rules you object to.
            Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
            • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
              First of stick to the subject at hand. Accounting systems should allocate revenue to their inventions. A simple way to allocate return to inventions versus manufacturing is based on the companies valuation. If the market valuation shows 50% of the value cannot be accounted for because of hard assets then 50% of the return is from inventions.

              From a balance sheet point of view only assets that you can own should be on the balance sheet, so that means inventions that are patented or have a copyright or are a trade secret.
              Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
              • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
                So, if 50% of my revenue comes from IP and 50% from manufacturing and manufacturing costs me money, I could stop manufacturing and retain 50% of my revenue?

                The IP is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for production. Its costs do not scale with quantity like manufacturing. Similarly my revenue scales with manufacturing quantity. Doubling my quantity will double my revenue (if I can sell it all).

                While accounting for revenue based on IP will emphasize the importance of IP, it will distort the production and revenue process because revenue really does come from manufacturing and selling goods.
                Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
                • Posted by dbhalling 8 years, 9 months ago
                  Nice one dimensional thinking WS. The company can have another company do the manufacturing and increase their profits and their ROI, since their manufacturing side is not really adding value.
                  Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
                  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
                    So what you are saying is that if you invent IP the best thing to do is to sell it to someone else who will produce goods since manufacturing them yourself doesn't make money?

                    This only works in the bizarro world where inventing things is the only revenue producing thing. Yes, invention moves us ahead, but we only make revenue if SOMEONE actually makes a product and sells it.
                    Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
              • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
                Dale, I have told you what I know about how the process works. If you want to make changes to the accounting rules, good luck. There are optional reports that are allowed. Some companies provide additional information when they think it advisable. Usually the accountants have a disclaimer about the additional reports.
                Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
          • Comment hidden by post owner or admin, or due to low comment or member score. View Comment
          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
            Are the inventions paid for in terms of dollars for use of inventions to the inventors. this could be someone or someones separate from the company or a someone or someones within the company. If they are taken without payment because the inventor happend to be working for the company perhaps doing some thing quite different there is no cost nor obligation. the company got a free ride. If the company provided the needed material (lab) and paid the wages that is the cost even if the inventor ended up producing nothing more tangible but proving which directions not to take. etc.

            the best invention is how to manage and downsize costs such as COG or cost of government. Since COG comes after legitimate overhead and before profit it may be trimmed by increasing expansion, improvement costs which would otherwise come under COG before final profit. Doesn't matter if it should or shouldn't it 'is'
            therefore the sharp accountant and cpa work to pare the highest cost which is also the weakest producer. ....unless part of the COG is buying elected officials
            Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  
          • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
            If I invent a better mouse trap, I don't get money. In order to get money I either have to license my patent in which case I don't do any manufacturing and the issue is moot, or I make mousetraps and sell them. And no, the world will not beat a path to your door, you have to sell them.

            The money I get comes from the manufacturing and sale of mouse traps, not from the patent which, without manufacturing creates no revenue. The patent gives me the right to do this, it makes the business possible but not profitable.

            It's vitally important that unlike the famous Lucille Ball episode, your manufacturing costs do not exceed your sales price. Accounting helps you with this.

            I agree that the valuation of the company needs to take into account the value of the patent, but that's incredibly hard to judge. You never know when someone is going to invent a new way of catching mice. The RoboCat will completely destroy your IP value.
            Reply | Mark as read | Parent | Best of... | Permalink  

FORMATTING HELP

  • Comment hidden. Undo