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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
    Perhaps we need a more concrete example. I used to work for a Machine Vision company. They made "computers that see". Bottlers use machine vision to verify that the bottles (or cans) are labeled, labeled correctly, marked correctly, filled and capped. Machine Vision systems are not only more reliable at verifying these things than human being, they are also faster. One beverage company in particular is able to run their lines at 60 items a second because they use Machine Vision. So the inspection jobs (Laverne & Shirley) are now gone. They are not being regulated. The companies are not being out performed by other companies, the have not gone over seas, they simply don't exist anymore.
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  • Posted by dnr 8 years, 9 months ago
    From the 1st time a guy hooked a stick to a horse and replaced four guys with sticks, productivity enhancements have been disruptive and will always be so.
    2. The rate of innovation is on an exponential curve and we are (in my opinion) just past the knee of the curve. Example: Innovations in the next 10 years will equal or surpass those of the last 20 years.
    3. I have been in the computer technology industry for over 50 years. Typically IT organizations contain the same mix of stick-in-the-mud people (or worse) than any other part of the business. Most IT organizations are still living in the distant past technologically. (I also teach IT classes and I hear from students everyday on how obsolete and stuck their organizations are.)
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 9 months ago
    The word "sabotage" derives from workers throwing shoes into a Jaquard loom early in the industrial revolution. There is nothing new about disruptive technologies stimulating dramatic changes in the economy and causing upheavals in the structure of society. Growth and progress does not come without some cost.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 9 months ago
    That's not what we're facing. About 8 years ago is when I first realized we decided to stop facing it. I remember it well - Bush's first bailout.

    The financial uncertainty we are facing is due to our central bank, combined with opaque taxation and regulations.

    And, yes, we should expect it. I expect a lot more.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      Are you arguing that Information Processing has not significantly changed markets?
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 9 months ago
        Of course it has. But, information processing is different than creative destruction. One is a technology and the other is an economic technique. If you are asking if I think that Information Processing is a disruptive technology I'd say I don't think so.

        Information and the processing of it is a value-added thing.

        I just looked at your original question again. The greater access to technology, many theorize, has increased standard deviation in the markets. I supposed that could be disruptive. For me, it's not. Interesting question.
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  • Posted by Butched 8 years, 9 months ago
    I see the question more of progress removing people from the workplace. More indicative of this is McDonald's replacing people with technological breakthroughs such as self ordering, self paying kiosks along with machines to make the food. We do need to expect that these breakthroughs will inevitably replaces workers thereby eliminating yet another layer of human workforce. At what point does eliminating human interaction become a detriment to finding employment versus the increased gains from productivity. At some point people need to find a job to pay for things. But what will those jobs look like when machines have completely eliminated the workforce. Then what?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    Are you referring to things like replacing the horse and buggy with the automobile, and the loss of supplemental products such as buggy whips? If so, of course we must expect this. The problem, however, is not the new technologies themselves, but the speed at which they now occur. Tech items become obsolete so rapidly, that for the average person, it becomes impossible to keep up. This may eventually outstrip tech product's potential markets. Further, as tech products change or improve, they cause changes in the labor market, creating new jobs and killing others. It's like being on a sailboat with the wind changing every few seconds.

    Even such steadfast and seemingly unchangeable endeavors such as merchandise retailing, distribution and shipping are caught in the avalanche of technical innovation. If a person wants to survive in a future marketplace, that person will need to learn to keep up with new ideas and products and be willing to move from job to job, and place to place. The other alternative is to create one's own job through self employment.

    The only way to keep technical innovation from rapid change is to become a socialist state. A sacrifice of freedom for security.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 9 months ago
    To take a shot at your original question...
    YES.
    But since the Future is Unpredictable, the best way to handle disruptions is to be a flexible and responsive to the innovations as you possibly can!
    What kind of organization or mindset would provide the maximum amount of those two benefits to your industry or any other?
    About a dozen and a half years ago, I proposed creation of a database and communications system that, from some estimates, would improve the productivity of each of the thirty or so people just in MY department by at least 20-30%.
    Never happened. No funding for its development or ongoing support expenses, though the potential savings would have covered all that in less than the first year of operation.
    Vision? sorry... not there....
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
    Robot technology has improved so much that we won't have to even drive ourselves soon. A lot of labor that was done by slaves can now be done cheaper and more efficiently by robots. I, for one, would like a robot 'slave' assistant to follow me around and take care of things for me that I programmed it to do like carry things around, keep track of things needing to be done, etc
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
    As technology replaces the need for human workers in more higher level tasks, it will require us all to work less to maintain the same lifestyle. At that point we can expand our lifestyles or enjoy the reduced need to spend time working. I say bring on the robots
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
    Yes we should and I think that divesting or simple adapting will not work as it has since the wagon and the wagon wheel.

    Scenario: Robots programming robots to make and deliver robots to make products and deliver those products. I see at best a few humans in this process if at all.

    Printing food...while waiting for my appointment today I just briefly scanned an article about this. What really raised my ears was they never even considered exacting duplicates of the best steak on earth but instead printing steaks from insects cause of the "Pollution" involved in raising animals...I wanted to shove the article up the authors you know where!

    There is much to fear from this attitude of replacing the real thing with a fake when we really could be reproducing the best of the best like never before.

    I've no clue at this point as to what would be left to do for most of us. But what I do see is that we might be able to produce for ourselves what was once produced by others. I still think that some compromises might be considered in favor of at least some human involvement.
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    • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
      I think the robot vs human choice is driven by relative costs. In our current system, employees are liabilities and there is great desire to get rid of them as fast as possible. They want more money all the time, they sue constantly based on government entitlements, and they generally are difficult to deal with. At the same time, robot technology is expanding at a rapid rate to replace humans and do a better job. I welcome the robots to make my life more independent and easier
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
        Tell me if I am overstating the problem.

        See, here is the allopathic problem...dealing with the symptom and not the cause.
        The Cause?...unions, poor education, improper upbringing, all perverting attitudes; diminishing skills and work place behaviors.

        The simple truth is that Humans need to be productive, innovative and involved...without these things we loose the better part of ourselves and become mentally sedentary, worthless and will begin to devolve.

        But guess what...as we all have come to realize, this De-evolution is engineered by the very creatures that never possessed these Human qualities in the first place. They have made us in there own image so to speak.
        We can take it back by changing our behavior, our children's behavior and taking part in the process:

        Yes, Robots should take over tasks that are boring and repetitive, dangerous and harmful; but not where human interaction is desired and beneficial for our species and the health of our society.

        The way I see it, what I have observed in the big picture of things, is that no matter how advanced we get, there are always dangers of unexpected collapses, natural and manmade, unintended consequences; so the responsible response should be maintaining a foot hold in both the productive and successful old ways and the best of the new. That way, we will be prepared for what ever the future or nature might throw at us.

        Was this the mistake, perhaps, past forgotten civilizations made.
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        • Posted by term2 8 years, 9 months ago
          Just as there is offshore cheaper competition to labor here, there is autonomous competition from robots. People need to keep ahead of robot and offshore competition or they will become unnecessary.
          We should study past civilizations more closely for sure
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          • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago
            And, just as in Babylon, our nature threatened the rule[less] class, those that could neither get along nor survive upon their own merits, so future paradigms would be turned upside down so they could survive.
            Now, with the ability to re-create a mass compliant, non threatening entity, victory might be within their sights.
            This too, defines The Fight for Conscious Human Life.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 9 months ago
    I suppose so. I don't like it, but I suppose it has to
    be endured. Still, maybe there will be new plants
    where those computers and machines are made.
    Only, maybe they will get computers and robot-like
    machines to do the manufacturing.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 9 months ago
    I assume you meant “a disruptive innovation” which is an innovation that creates a new market and value network and eventually disrupts an existing market and value network, displacing established market leaders and alliances.

    However, I fear I am missing the thrust of the question. Herb7734 addresses what is most likely your question.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 9 months ago
    One of the byproducts of productivity is that less productive tasks are priced out of the market and those who once performed them must retrain to match the new level of productivity. Disruptive technologies and IT only serve to increase the speed at which productivity increases and which the less productive are forced to confront obsolescence. I only see those productive forces pressing forward. The only thing to stop that will be ourselves.
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  • Posted by wiggys 8 years, 9 months ago
    can you be more specific as to what the uncertainty is you are referring too. the destruction of what? what technologies are changing markets?
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
    In "Black Swan", Taleb argues that what appears to be conservative decision making is often overturned by unexpected events. This clearly happens in IT but is really common throughout the economy. We are currently experiencing an unexpected drop in oil prices that is making what appeared to be solid investments in more expensive extraction technology fail.

    You have to expect uncertainty -- which is hard. I f you think you are acting cautiously to secure a safe result you are probably at risk to factors you are not able to take into account.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 9 months ago
    Yes, by definition. Disruptive technologies make products or services available to people who previously couldn't get them b/c of cost, complexity, location, or other reasons. That is destroys the producers who were focused on sustaining innovation in whatever industry was previously meeting that market's need. By its nature this process is uncertain, i.e. not mapped out ahead of time. So we should absolutely count on uncertainty.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 9 months ago
    As long as it's technologies such as weaving machines which destroyed non productive means and created or significantly enlarged textiles and other markets. Transportation, Distribution, retail marketing and more.

    If it's destruction by government with the only purpose to disrupt and destroy then we should not have to expect this.

    If the second occurs the explanation is simple. We chose the wrong government.

    If it occurred through the use of criminal elements outside government same answer. Government should be alert for this sort of activity not aiding and abetting.

    If the first situation occurs without undue interference then we chose the right government.

    Applied this to todays situation where both choices WILL be the wrong choice.

    That means we chose the wrong method of choosing government.

    Whose fault is that? All we had to do was follow the rule book instead of ignoring it.
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