Galt's Gulch

The "1 Percent" might just lead to the complete collapse of civilization, according to a study sponsored by NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

Posted by Mitch 10 years, 8 months ago to Politics
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Why is my tax money being paid to these agenda driven scientific elites? I just hope this guy doesn’t have a hand in designing Constellation Ares rocket, if we ever take it out of the mothballs. I see how NASA is ensuring its budget next year…
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  • Posted by airfredd22 10 years, 8 months ago
    The question related to this post should be, what is NASA doing sponsoring and thereby using tax payer funds to sponsor anything other than space related efforts?

    In my humble opinion, this is a fraudulent use of taxpayer funds.

    Fred Speckmann
    commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
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  • Posted by seascape 10 years, 8 months ago
    Since the head of NASA is an Obama worshipper NASA just parrots the company line about wealth redistribution and rich people in general.

    In any field where reality rules NASA might find out that political correctness will NOT get a rocket to function properly, a space ship to work correctly or much else of any value to happen. Hopefully Obama himself will actually ride in one of the "new" inspired designs by his "everyone is equal" workforce.

    When will this dope and his appointees JUST GO AWAY?
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
      Interestingly, the only part of government not to grow under Obama is NASA. He came to my campus at Florida Tech during the 2008 campaign and had more boos than cheers.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 8 months ago
    Well, according to this government study, it will be the elites that will destroy civilization. So, for the benefit of the civilization and out of self-preservation, Washington, D.C., needs to be eliminated. Let's hope that those elite parasites are altruistic and will do it themselves, but I'm afraid of running out of breath waiting for that change to happen...
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 10 years, 8 months ago
    The entire premise of the article is based on the development of a working model of Psychohistory which was a fictional mathematical function derived by Isaac Asimov. I've never read a bigger load of malarkey and I read a LOT of Sci-fi, Fantasy & Fiction !
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  • Posted by WBD 10 years, 8 months ago
    NASA needs something to do.
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    • Posted by overmanwarrior 10 years, 8 months ago
      This is what happens when you take a bunch of intellectuals and take away the Space Shuttle, forcing America to hitch a ride with the Russians to visit the "International Space Station." They fall back on themselves with thoughts that are quite stupid.............like this one, a meaningless study by overthinking members of the National Science Institute. (NASA)

      NASA used to mean something, now they are just another useless government parasite.
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      • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago
        They do apparently perform the function of giving the Russians yet another thing to degrade us to the world over. What I don't get - they were, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt and washed up in the early 1990's... how could we have fallen so far?
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  • Posted by wiggys 10 years, 8 months ago
    unfortunately the nasa people are not talking to the astronauts. I spoke with one at great length about 1991, Joe Engel. he said that life in space was so far away that he couldn't imagine it. without gravity your muscle structure deteriorates, bone mass deteriorates in essence your body breaks down. if the wealthy of the world want to live up there let them go for it.
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
      Of course, Ayn Rand wouldn't approve of NASA, but the biggest reason why NASA's budget withered over the last few years is captured by wiggys. Until my students can solve the relationship between shear stress, magnetic fields (including gravity), and both bone and muscle growth, manned space travel will not happen. The astronauts still lose 1% of bone mass per month. I actually talk about this subject in my Biomaterials and Tissue Engg. class on the night of 4/23. After one of my students gives me the audio tape, I will be glad to let this group download that.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
    NASA does offend me, even though I teach the rocket scientists at Florida Tech. However, it doesn't offend me as much as most government programs. We have a surprisingly large number of things that we take for granted because of NASA-sponsored programs, most notably Internet communication.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 8 months ago
      The internet was not the result of NASA research. It came from a DoD program, called ARPANET (after the D0D's research element, the Advanced Projects Research Agency, now called DARPA). It was part of a much larger program to provide faster, more secure military communications. ARPANET provided for worldwide connectivity, and when a UK scientist created hypertext, the internet was the result. I was one of the first users of ARPANET, as the first director of a classified operational military satellite program.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
        I'm pleased to meet you, DrZarkov99. You are indeed correct that ARPA created the Internet, but without the NASA work to launch the first satellites and rockets, there would have been no immediate need for ARPANET. This falls under "necessity being the mother of invention".
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
          There were satellites in the sky long before the internet (or ARPANET). The internet merely took advantage of the capability - and then not even from the beginning, since the very first communications was via landline.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
            True. The first communications were landline, but the NASA engineers complained loudly enough that they actually started a company called Radiation, Inc. (now Harris Corporation) to address that. That same year Radiation's founder and Jerry Keuper, my university's (Florida Tech's) first president had dinner. The waitress thought that their idea for Florida Tech was such a great idea that she donated the tip money (37 cents) to be our initial endowment. That was how Florida Tech was founded - for 37 cents by two producers and a philanthropic waitress. As Radiation (now Harris) started the non-landline satellite communication business, I stand by my earlier assertion that work for NASA ultimately resulted in the Internet. It certainly didn't happen overnight, but without the need to wirelessly communicate with satellites, there would be no Internet. I will grant that Harris (and Radiation) did plenty of government contract work along the way, so the history is not as clean as Ayn Rand would have liked.
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      • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
        Technically you are correct, but the need for such faster, more secure military communications came from the need to communicate with space vehicles. The "much larger program" you allude to did include quite a few NASA people here at Kennedy Space Center.
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      • Posted by dbhalling 10 years, 8 months ago
        Of course ARPANET is not really the Internet either. The Internet, as we know it today, like most technologies is a group of inventions, which are still increasing/changing. ARPANET defined the transport system on which the Internet is built.
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 8 months ago
          ARPANET is certainly the father of the internet. And AOL would be the mother. AOL did as much to nurture and grow the internet as any other entity.
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          • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 8 months ago
            AOL would be the mother, inasmuch as they gobbled up Compuserve. I was the first person in my county on Compuserve back in 1985. I made a killing on AOL stock back in the 1990's. That's how I am able to afford to take my professorship at Florida Tech (my shrug job) instead of getting paid much more in industry or continuing my prior companies.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 8 months ago
    Pure nonsense. More likely civilization will collapse because the elitist government will break us all, spending our money on agenda driven studies, while fattening their own bank accounts. If the 1% is the government itself and its cronies destroying the wealth and opportunities... It will not be some Malthusian nightmare where the general populace exhausts the resources. The Roman empire did not fall because of these things... Perhaps, Mr. Franco should better monitor his beer intake...
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago
    I am still confused - how does the "National Aeronautics and Space Agency" become authorities on sociological civilization studies? Isn't that just a tad, like 99% tad, away from their prime mission of AERONAUTICS and SPACE?
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago
    FEMA vans were seen in the area where a subdivision was being taken from property owners in Florida in Agenda 21 fashion. The government plowed up the roads so those who would not sell, could not access their homes. In fact, FEMA vans were seen quite a bit during Clinton years.
    After being run off the remote area around Trinity Site, when a vintage B-24 flew down the road toward us at low level, we begin to see how the government could easily make you disappear. Thus, when we came across a government compound in remote Wyo., with wire fences and blocked drive - we did not try to go see what that was. Try to go visit HAARP, as Jesse Ventura did.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago
    I think we need fear the approach of government-induced "Soylent Green" in our future than disaster from global warming.
    Was it not NASA which brought the flawed study to Congress which resulted in the banning of freon, then said oops.
    Still, the eternal elephant in the room - why are they not talking about climate change induced by them via HAARP and HAMP?
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 8 months ago
    N.A.S.A. as always comes up with some kind of scam to suck the blood out of hard working people. Just another example of those who belonged to Hitler's regime. Let the private sector even if it is the "1 Percent" do these study's with their own wealth and maybe you and I can get back to what we do best "Being John Galt".
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