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Trump - Who should own America? The Feds or the States

Posted by $ HarmonKaslow 8 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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From a Field and Stream Interview last week (Jan 22, 2016):
Interviewer: I’d like to talk about public land. Seventy percent of hunters in the West hunt on public lands managed by the federal government. Right now, there’s a lot of discussion about the federal government transferring those lands to states and the divesting of that land. Is that something you would support as President?

Donald Trump: I don’t like the idea because I want to keep the lands great, and you don’t know what the state is going to do. I mean, are they going to sell if they get into a little bit of trouble? And I don’t think it’s something that should be sold. We have to be great stewards of this land. This is magnificent land. And we have to be great stewards of this land. And the hunters do such a great job—I mean, the hunters and the fishermen and all of the different people that use that land. So I’ve been hearing more and more about that.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 10 months ago
    None of the above obviously. There is no reasonable excuse for the government to own any land not expressly needed for its legitimate by the Constitution activities. There is nothing there to justify it owning approximately 33% of land in the US.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 8 years, 10 months ago
    Amazing discussion. Recognizing that I am not the sharpest pencil in the box, I learned a lot from those who participated. As I always do from the folks in the Gulch. Thanks to all. Much food for thought. Must go digest.
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  • Posted by GaryL 8 years, 10 months ago
    Simple answer is in a question. Where did the federal or state governments get the money to own and control all this land?
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    • Posted by ewv 8 years, 10 months ago
      The Federal government assumed control of most of the land in the west as previously unowned in territories not yet divided into states. It didn't have to pay for it, over time it simply reversed the process of recognizing settlement of unowned land and seized it for itself as permanent control.

      Private land that is acquired, including by eminent domain, by the Federal government (and much state acquisition) for parks and wilderness is funded mostly through the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) from the Great Society programs of the 1960s. That law authorized the funding and Congress annually appropriates the money up to $900 million/year.

      The anti-private property preservationist lobby (Audubon, Wilderness Society, National Parks Conservation Association, Sierra Club, etc. etc.) is trying to turn that into a permanent $1 billion (or more) off budget annual "trust fund" entitlement for acquisition bypassing Congressional appropriations. They also want to expand it into an entitlement slush fund for activist groups and all levels of government for land use and acquisition planning. Paul Ryan's omnibus bill just extended LWCF instead of killing it.

      The maintenance of Federal lands is also paid by Congressional appropriations in the general budget, i.e., taxes. The National Park Service is billions in arrears for maintenance and rehabilitation but wants to keep acquiring more in an insatiable mission mentality of expansionism.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
      they can't afford to lose the sales. they got sucked into it and it makes more economic sense to bolster the idea of they produce we buy the profit potential is enormous meanwhile their debt is in low or zero interest t bills so they only lose the devalued portions the buying power in the meantime we dumbasses that voted this stupidity in to power get devalued dollars and are thanking god and greyhound for Walmart and the Dollar stores AND voting in rigged elections. Now whose stupid.l Not the Chinese. they bought into a a year round Christmas sale.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
        Not to mention the property tax they would have to pay. If they can pick and choose land with big time mineral rights different story. ANWAR comes to mind.And who owns those SW Texas new strike oil fields? Can we pay them with oil. they import and we started exporting again. Even at low prices our government could pay $20 a barrel plus shipping to the oil field companies and give it to China at $40 deduction from debt. China would only pay offload and refining costs. that's only half tounge in cheek....Nothing says you have to pay a with checks or currency.
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    • Posted by sowen228 8 years, 10 months ago
      Agreed. However with Agenda 21, more that likely the U.S. government will give the land to the United Nations for "preservation" meaning no one can enter, use, or enjoy as it is a "human-free" area. If the lackey in washington thought that would gain them anything; it would have already been done.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Without reading the previous comments first the owners are the citizens of the country. Sometimes they forget that. They are also the source (for a while) the entire source of political power but that is on it's last legs. At that point they won't own the country but they will be expected to meet norms and quotas.
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