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Chilling comment by a cop in CT

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 10 months ago to News
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I don't know any cops that would revel in disarming law abiding gun owners. But they haven't let "power" go to their heads, either.
SOURCE URL: http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/03/ct-cop-gun-owning-patriot-wait-get-order-kick-door/

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    Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 10 months ago
    Chilling! I had a discussion with a new cop in my little town last week. We started talking about legalizing drugs and it went downhill from there. He thinks that all drugs should be illegal, and so should alcohol and tobacco because they 'hurt people'. I explained that they had already tried to make alcohol illegal and it didn't work, and that you can't legislate morality. His solution is that the makers should all get the death penalty. What is WRONG with people!!!
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    • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 10 months ago
      And somebody gave that guy a license to carry a gun 24 hours a day, and use it at his discretion?
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      • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 10 months ago
        Yes. Scarey isn't it. I have had a few discussions with the cops in this area. Some get it, some are raging alpha hotels. Once when talking with the Under Sheriff (now Sheriff) I accused a couple of his deputies with misfeasance. We now clearly understand each other.
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        • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 10 months ago
          It's worse than scary. i just read something yesterday that this last year, there were 5,000 (?) people injured in police chases and something like 500 killed. Can't remember the number of chases.

          But I can't imagine that many were bank robbers or murderers.

          I'm still trying to find out how many have been killed in SWAT warrant raids in the middle of the night.
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          • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 10 months ago
            I posted a story about that a few days ago. The militarization of America's police forces by John Silveira
            Read more at http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/rockymou...

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            • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 10 months ago
              Great article. I liked the story mode of telling it.

              It reminds me of growing up in a little town in NE Oklahoma as a kid. Back then, teenagers came to town and cruised up and down main streets on Fri and Sat nights. Some city father got concerned about the traffic in our 10 or 12 blocks of Main St. and decided that we needed a city constable. After a couple of months of him standing in the middle of Main, blowing a whistle and trying to get the kids to stop, he came to the city council and wanted a police car and a pistol. The kids just weren't giving him any respect. The request was put off till the next meeting.

              Frustrated, he came out on Main early Fri. with a lasso and started chasing kids on bicycles. He finally spotted one he could get close enough to and roped him as he rode by, jerking him off the back of the bike, Chipped his tail bone. I know, I was that kid.

              The city decided they didn't really need a constable.

              It's tremendously different and atrocious now, but i think it's much the same mentality and problem, just on steroids.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 10 months ago
      They do hurt people. By his reasoning, the gov't should control your diet and exercise too. They should limit needless trips that expose you to risk of accident.

      Alcohol should be one of the first on his death-penalty list since the lethal dose isn't much higher than the recreational dose and b/c the withdrawal itself can be fatal.

      Even if you get Ativan during every withdrawal episode, the constant abuse can kill you. I watched to people close to me die slowly this way.

      It's horrible, but turning over responsibility to the gov't is not the answer.
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    • Posted by freedom_flora 10 years, 10 months ago
      This is what happens when 12 years of public schooling indoctrinate people with the notion that there is no area of our lives in which government has no business, that we owe everything we have to government, that government is the source of all our freedoms, and that the Constitution is just an irrelevant piece of paper.

      A large, intrusive government is inimical to individual liberty.
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    • Posted by Boborobdos 10 years, 10 months ago
      This is the same state that had a person who was too smart to be a cop: "Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training."

      From: http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barri...

      Michael Moore's folks interviewed the members of the local Mensa Chapter at a happy hour. They didn't think much of the local government either.
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  • Posted by mminnick 10 years, 10 months ago
    If he kicks the door in , he could be in lots of trouble. If they do not announce they have a warrant, lots of trouble could ensue. Not a good thought. Hope the cop settles down.
    BTW, I have five close relatives that are cops. Not one would kick in the door.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 10 months ago
    "But I don't trust the Republicans either, at the state or the federal level," Cinque continued. "This whole Progressive movement has bitten everyone, and that's what it comes down to."

    Truer words were never spoken. The Progressives have nailed down Education, both parties, the courts, the economy, the press, et alia. They are very near to a complete victory.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 10 years, 10 months ago
    I worked with a cop like this guy in the past. We were both security cops on a community college campus. He was large and had a mouth to match. His method of dealing with students was abrasive and demeaning. He finally got too many complaints and moved on to some little town in the boondocks full of loggers. Maybe they appreciated his approach more than the students did. Or, he got an attitude adjustment from the loggers he confronted. Never heard from him after the move.
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    • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 10 months ago
      Seems like the folks who are really looking to help their neighbors go the fireman/EMT route. Those who merely want to wield power over their neighbors become cops. That's a gross exaggeration, but everyone that I've run across seems to match those descriptions.
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    • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
      does law enforcement attract the Aholes or it just takes a few...
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      • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 10 months ago
        It takes just a few. Although the Staties seem to have the greater percentage of peckerheads.
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        • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 10 months ago
          That's because their fundamental philosophy is that they know better than you - what you should eat, where you should live, what mode of transportation you should use, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.
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          • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 10 months ago
            I've had my own interactions with a Virginia state trooper and also a CT trooper. The one in VA was a total a$$, and it wasn't because I was speeding. I was a passenger in a car that was hit by a semi, and wound up hanging over the guard rail of an overpass bridge. The CT one was at the scene of an accident my husband was in 5 years ago. Very nice guy. The VA one I can see slamming his way into someone's home. The Ct trooper wouldn't enforce it.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 10 months ago
    You have to ask yourselves: what makes someone decide to become a policeman in our society today? And what kind of recruits are our police academies accepting?

    The police are, of course, one of the three core functions of government that Rand said must remain. But the arguments of the Rational Anarchists are getting more difficult to answer every day. Every time an ordinary patrolman makes a remark like this, that makes some people think ALL cops are potential bullies.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 10 months ago
    I know some good cops and I know some cops like this. The ones like this were either dropped on their heads by their mothers or have come back from war with PTSD and given a gun and a badge.

    This is going to get interesting...
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 10 months ago
    I do not defend this police officer, but he's in a tough position. This guy says to him you're enforcing a law that's unconstitutional. His attitude is "I'm charged with enforcing the law, not interpreting what's constitutional. The guy takes an extreme example, "Does that mean you follow Hitler's orders to commit genocide?"

    I agree both genocide and confiscating guns are against the US Constitution, but saying b/c he's confiscates guns he'd follow Hitler is wrong. Most people think the US Constituion does not allow any citizen (including criminals) to have any weapon (including WMDs). ON the other end, almost every one agrees a well-regulated militia must be allowed 18th century weapons.

    Banning certain types of guns puts police officers in a tough position. I don't agree with equating them to Nazis.

    This officer would look much better if he had said, "I regret I will have to break down your door to enforce this law if you don't comply." .
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    • Posted by KevinSmith1281 10 years, 10 months ago
      He won't have to break down his door and enforce the law, he will choose to. Plenty of honorable police and military also choose to join Oath Keepers and refuse to go along with unconstitutional orders.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 10 months ago
        I agree with that, but I don't think banning some type of weapon rises to that level. Police officers can keep an oath to the Constitution and still enforce questionable laws, such as the entire drug war, bans on types of weapons, and enforcement of free-speech zones. They can disagree with the courts and the law makers and still follow their decisions.

        At what point it moves beyond a light and transient political disagreement into something that merits quitting policing or active resistance is a tricky question.
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    • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 10 months ago
      Under the Nuremberg principle, he will NOT be required. He swears "to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic," does he not?
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    • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 10 months ago
      But he won't regret it. It'll give him a chance to dress up in combat gear and call himself an 'operator'. They actually think of themselves as special forces combat guys. It's a big part of why there's so many deaths.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 10 years, 10 months ago
    Also, note that steroid use is pretty rampant in many police departments. Oh yeah...that's a good idea. Often, it's the swat guys that get into it. "Force is good! Yeahhh! (insert Howard Dean yell here)"
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