Hello khalling,

"A mystic is driven by the urge to impress, to cheat, to flatter, to deceive, to force that omnipotent consciousness of others. “They” are his only key to reality, he feels that he cannot exist save by harnessing their mysterious power and extorting their unaccountable consent. “They” are his only means of perception and, like a blind man who depends on the sight of a dog, he feels he must leash them in order to live. To control the consciousness of others becomes his only passion; power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind.

Every dictator is a mystic, and every mystic is a potential dictator. A mystic craves obedience from men, not their agreement. He wants them to surrender their consciousness to his assertions, his edicts, his wishes, his whims—as his consciousness is surrendered to theirs. He wants to deal with men by means of faith and force—he finds no satisfaction in their consent if he must earn it by means of facts and reason. Reason is the enemy he dreads and, simultaneously, considers precarious; reason, to him, is a means of deception; he feels that men possess some power more potent than reason—and only their causeless belief or their forced obedience can give him a sense of security, a proof that he has gained control of the mystic endowment he lacked. His lust is to command, not to convince: conviction requires an act of independence and rests on the absolute of an objective reality. What he seeks is power over reality and over men’s means of perceiving it, their mind, the power to interpose his will between existence and consciousness, as if, by agreeing to fake the reality he orders them to fake, men would, in fact, create it." Galt's speech

Whether you are initiating force or you do nothing to combat it when cognizant of its imminence, you are either an Attila or an enabler aiding and abetting, though your emotions and fear of retaliation are overruling your reason.

Of course many Muslims are undoubtedly victims of the brutes among them and their inaction is a product of fear. They fear the force of the brutes will be directed towards them. They are paralyzed.
... "A simple example would be a gunman who says; 'I don't care what my prey thinks. I just want him to hand over his wallet.' Force in this aspect makes a man act against his judgement. The victim still sees what he sees, values what he values, knows what he knows. The forcer, however, bypasses the victims cognition, making it useless in practice. When the gunman threatens; 'Your money or your life.' the owner still knows to whom the money belongs. But if he does not choose to risk death or physical harm, the threat is the factor that has to determine his action. His own conclusion---however is clear, logical compelling---becomes impotent." pg. 313, OTPOAR.

Those few Muslims that do stand up and denounce these barbarities are the exceptions. They are able to overcome their fears and face them. We must allow for them, and encourage them; for there is still hope for them and to do otherwise is to pass a collective judgement and do them injustice. Underneath the indoctrination and conditioning of their upbringing, can there be any doubt that many are not true believers, but are putting up a facade and simply going along to get along? I would still suggest that they take a good look at their own and or their associates beliefs in mysticism particularly since Mohamed-ism, is not a "religion of peace" for many of its followers. Its foundations are the product of a tyrannical miscreant. It has had no reformation. Nonetheless, those that do not speak out, but sit idly by while atrocities are committed in the name of their beliefs deserve not our sympathy or consideration.

Respectfully,
O.A.

Here is my response to this video.

I agree with everything you said except the phrase "If I am a moderate muslim I have nothing to hide." That is not the standard in the US under the law or in any free country and is constantly used to justify the expansion of the Police State. Of course you were not clear whether you were talking about the government or private individuals. If you meant, “as a private individual I am going to give you (the muslim) extra scrutiny.” Then I agree with you and I will/am doing the same.

I think it is particularly important to point out that radical muslims are only able to carry out their evil acts because of the tacit support they receive from moderate muslims, which means (on personal level, not a government level) that they are guilty by association.

In my opinion, this can only be stopped by winning the ideological war, which includes pointing out all the horrible things done in the name of Islam. When we (the West) are willing to do this, then military actions such as were done by Jefferson and Madison would be appropriate and effective (carpet bombing).

I''m uncertain as to exactly why, right at this moment, but this gal upsets me. On one hand, the excuse that 'moderate Muslims' or just those raised in a Muslim culture are not at fault for the actions of the radicals of their religion or culture is BS. The religious/social/government basis of Islam has chosen to be at war with the West. All of Islam either supports directly or allows indirectly, the atrocities those that advocate for Jihad, or just the rise of Islam in World recognition or primacy, perpetrate.

But the West is equally at fault, and even supportive of their nonsense. If it suits our geopolitical or resource desires, we have even instituted, trained, funded, and armed such movements and activities, but always thinking we could maintain control and influence, and then turned a blind eye to their growth and the idea of 'Moderate Muslims'. There are no 'Moderate Muslims' anymore than there are 'Moderate Evangelical Christians' and I'm not sure there ever has been.

It's just not as simple as the gal tries to make it.

I have 68 comments a two likes! you are all lucky that I have flu and cannot come find you in the world and smack your ass!!!

All muslims are required to convert, enslave, or murder infidels. I'm an infidel, therefore all muslims are a threat to me and mine. ALL muslims.

When growing up, I lived in an area that was on the border of a Muslim enclave in Detroit. I had a Muslim friend. He came to my house, I came to his.I ate at his home. We fooled around and got into trouble together. When I became an adult, his dad treated me like a cousin. They weren't all that observant, but then I didn't do religion even then. Today, I don't trust any Muslim. I don't want to know them or be their friend. I don't trust them whether they are "moderate" or not. She said if you join the club be prepared for the consequences or words to that effect. I say, if you're a member of the club, go reside in an area where you won't impinging on the 21st century with your 7th century beliefs, and justification for violence in the name of Allah. If that sounds racist, too bad. If what I say will alleviate the necessity of using even one American one body bag, then I feel justified.

Ok. So I'm reading most of the posts here and that is quite confusing. Sunny is a comedian. This was satire. She basically said that there are no moderate muslims. That they can all turn into Farook Syed and come back in body armor and kill all their colleagues.

Geez louise. Sometimes I think I'd trade Heinlein's definition of man (through Mike the Martian) as the animal that laughs for Rand's of man as the animal that reasons. But I see no reason why the two can't co-exist. Well - here on this forum I see lots of reasons but still think it's doable. :)

Beware of the "moderate" lions, tigers and bears. Beware of the "moderate" Democrat, Republican and Socialist.

All things are possible, right and Just when performed in the name of one's God! Whether it is God, Allah or Corporate Lobbyist.

BRAVA!! If everyone in the US just said what she said, most of the problem would disappear.

I liked it quite a bit. In fact, I watched 3x and even turned the sound on the third time. :)

Last night I caught the tail end of some moderate Muslims apologizing for the massacre on the Fox News channel..
I kinda appreciated the gesture but wondered if deep down they all prefer to live under the Shariah Law of a worldwide caliphate.

Thanks for the link; I enjoyed it.
Here's my problem with the concept of "moderate" Muslims:
http://muslimfact.com/bm/terror-in-th...
From: By Don Boys, Ph.D. Published Nov 17, 2004

"al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.

It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know."

I'm as charitable as the next guy, but given the above, and that the Qur'an and Hadith command the faithful to subdue or "smite at the necks" of the infidel, knowing is important.
As the world moves on, Islam is locked firmly in place and increasingly marginalized. Taught that every single word of the Qur'an and the Hadith are the direct, unassailable words of Allah and Muhammad, respectively, not one word can be even suggested for change or interpretation without risk of a death sentence for apostasy. But until Islam goes through a reformation, there is no hope for its adherents ever living without suspicion in the civilized world.

very interesting. . I hope that she stays safe, out there! -- j
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There are no moderate muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are either a true muslim to the detriment of the world and if you happen to say you are moderate that makes you an infidel and will be killed. I am waiting to see one of us go into the muslim community and start killing them here in the USA. That might get their attention, especially if it happens in more than one community. I can't believe it isn't far off.

Yea, more people need to hear this.

I on the other hand, in an effort to get it right, would say that there is no such thing as a "Moderate" muslim...if one does not buy the whole thing, hook line and sinker Everything in the crapran...then one is Not a muslim, not an islamist...get it?

Of course no one would watch me say this on youtube...just to damn ugly...laughing at myself.

Golf, at it's best, is not a sport. Golf is a ritual by which men of honor demonstrate that no matter the indignity, they will behave as gentlemen. Fools try to treat it as a competition to be won at any cost. It is known that to win is to finish the round with dignity.

I am not sure she is capable of leading the conversation but "we" do need to drop the PC approach and discuss how Islam and the West can co-exist. This is WW III but we haven't recognized it yet. "They" need to address the issue of their obligation to convert or kill all non-believers and "We" need to establish the boundary of our faith in the solution they offer. Otherwise, one side will have to prevail by slaughtering the other. Until we put this out in the open without the fear of hurting someone's feelings we will have a gorilla war that will continue to escalate.