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Islam vs. Christianity

Posted by dbhalling 9 years ago to Politics
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Is there really a big difference?

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Matthew 10:34). Or they could re-tell the parable of conflict resolution, which Jesus ends this way: “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me” (Luke 19:27).

One of the big accomplishments of the United States was separation of Church and State or "ethical philosophy and political philosophy", unfortunately many christians and many environmentalists want to break that wall down.
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years ago
    I don't think we can say Islam v. Christianity, rather we must say Radical Fools who have perverted Islam to their own purposes with terror. Its all about control, just as the progressives and some RINO Republicans want to impose here.
    If you really look at the UN's Radical, carefully camouflaged and hidden Agenda 21 Project, which, by the way, is humming along nicely, rewriting history books, changing the news & etc. You'll realized there's no real difference, just the flavor of the 'Fearless Leader,' the purpose remains the same, control of the people and all the resources by a select group of authorities.
    There is only one difference, one is, for its own purposes, religiously fanatical; the other is, for its own purposes, fanatically secular.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years ago
    When I cited the rediscovery of pagan culture, I was not referring to Wicca. I said Cicero, and I meant Cicero. In De Natura Deorum (On the Nature of the Gods) five men discussed religion and no one died. Some denied the existence of the gods, others said that the gods exist but we do not or cannot know them. One realist said, "We know that the gods exist because people have reported seeing them and the senses are valid." It is the open discussion of ideas that was and remains the hallmark of humanism.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years ago
    Really, ALL religion is adherence to whats written in some book, whether reasonable or not. I can tolerate living among religious people if they can tolerate living among me as a non believer. But, I dont really associate with die hard religious people like Ben Carson, for example. They are just boring and being stupid in my opinion. I am sure he would think the same of me as a non believer.

    I like only two things about Bill Mayer- #1 is his movie RELIGILIOUS (spelling may not be right) where he points out some of the strange and inconsistent and frankly stupid beliefs in modern religions, and #2- his dislike of Hillary Clinton.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years ago
    The difference is the Christians have largely shown, and demonstrated that they can live and function civally in a secular society. The islamists,,,4,3,2, 1,,,boom! I kill you.

    Enough said.
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    • Posted by 9 years ago
      Only if constrained by non-christian philosophy
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      • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years ago
        And who established/wrote out and implemented that non-Christian framework?
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        • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years ago
          Christians.

          Not only is this true, but if Christianity had not existed many, if not all of ideals that lead to the creation of the US would not have existed.

          The basic premises from which the US sprang, Gods Law/Natural law is all about the laws which god put in place that are irrevocable. The very idea is Christian, and everything that sprang from it came from christian views.

          The books "The books 7 miracles that saved the world" and "7 tipping points that saved the world" have several examples of Christianity preserving freedom in them. I had never thought of Christianity in this light till reading them.
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          • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years ago
            Christianity saved Europe from islamic invasion (Charles Martel). Also, beguilingly, the catholic church helped forge a society out of dark age barbarism following the fall of Rome. It also delivered education to the masses. Lastly, King John was compelled to sign the magna carta, a foundational document of the US Constitution, by the Templar Nights - arguably Christian.

            Lets try to avoid dreams of grandeur to build revisionist history.
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            • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years ago
              AJ gave you a -1 for the last sentence. Read the books if you want to, no dreams of grandeur here. Feel free to disagree, but I could due without the insult line.
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              • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years ago
                The insult wasn't intentional. One can't avoid history because history goes against current ideology/philosophy or what one hopes to be true, was all I intended by the statement. facts cannot and should not be erased. No worries about the point taken. I do appreciate your owning up for it. I never intended to insult anyone.
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                • Posted by XenokRoy 9 years ago
                  Removed the -1 AJ.

                  You may actually like (although not agree with) those two books. I found them very interesting and they present facts and arguments around those facts.

                  As a for instance, The Norsemen, who became the rulers in Normandy and the Normans of Engalnd set up their government based on the government structure given to the Hebrews in Laviticus, even some of the names of offices are derived form these. These books touch on this one lightly, but Cleon Skousan give a talk at BYU way back when, I have a recording, and detailed it all out very nicely. Within that was the idea of self rule....

                  Anyway they are both books worth a read.
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  • Posted by Lucky 9 years ago
    Yes. But to be 'objective' about it, Christianity, for the most part has changed for the better, As the everyjoe article says " because humanistic philosophy prevailed", the tolerance does not seem to originate from inside. I expect to hear that humanism came out of Christianity, I remain to be convinced.

    Islam has changed as well, the wrong way, what we call Islamism is as bad or worse than anything since the time of the founder.
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    • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years ago
      Renaissance humanism came from the re-discovery of pagan culture. Reading Cicero and all of the others brought ideas outside the intentions of the Church.
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      • Posted by gaiagal 9 years ago
        IThe RC Church is steeped in pagan culture as its base. It can be seen in the holy days of obligation, the lesser holy days and in all the symbolism used in it's architecture, statues and priestly arrayment.

        I often wonder if the Church sought to rope paganism in that way, use the pagan culture because that is what people were familiar with at the time or if there is a level of occult within the Church.
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        • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years ago
          Yes, that is true, and much of that is the old Roman state religion. The absorption of Celtic and Germanic traditions and other such and sundry was probably not an agenda, but simply accepted as people of the places and times became part of the church hierarchy. We are talking hundreds of years, dozens of generations, when all you can transfer without writing is about five generations. See also my comments underscoring Cicero. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post... I point out again that various schools of philosophy in the ancient world did not persecute and prosecute each other.

          in our time, as bitterly as Einstein and Bohr disagreed, no one threw handgrenades into the biergartens of graduate students to settle the argument. People of reason have a better way to find truth.

          Let me ask you: Did pizza and spaghetti become American foods because of the influence of Italian culture in our society?
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    Posted by gafisher 9 years ago
    You've misquoted and misinterpreted the Bible, as have many who called themselves "Christian" in the past. Avoid the quagmire of moral equivalence and remember that Islamism is very much a political movement as well as a faith.
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