To most of us who live here, not much. Sure, when someone votes me down I get a little bent, but still... when push comes to shove, not a lot, as it's not the points, but the sharing of ideas, the intercourse of belief, the knowledge of producing, that make us all one.
Some like the points to vote someone down to foster their own belief system, some like it to support their own ego, and some - I would hope the majority - use it to thank someone for contributing something of value to our small microcosm of life.
Since I have the most points currently, I am happy to answer. First, you need 100 points in order to up vote or down vote comments. It's a small way of trying to keep away trolls (we get them occasionally). I use it as a barometer for how long people have been around and how their comments are received. But, honestly, I don't see that they matter that much. If there was a prize for points, I haven't gotten one yet. :)
I got the globe with the ISIS smoke and fire generator feature which makes a neat night-light!!! . have to leave the exhaust fan on low, though, cuz of the pollution. -- j .
Trump is the last person to be making fun of someones hair. You are right, he should concentrate on policy. This does go to the heart of why many people don't trust the Clintons. Why deny its a wig? Own it and have fun with it. She missed an opportunity.
Thank you for answering my question. I was looking at other post and noticed a lot had points and wasn't sure what they were for. I appreciate your answer.
well, that is a good point Nelly, posts which carry a high number indicate that it is well received and as such may make the Daily Digest. Those that make the daily email blast to members are generating more interest than other posts-and therefore possibly interesting discussion.
I am still relatively new here. How does one even post something ? I receive these daily Galts Gulch online email with these discussion threads, and I was wondering how these threads came into being.
Hi Bethesda-gal. The blue bar at the top right says "start discussion". Click on that and choose public discussion. You can give the post a title and paste a link to an online article if you want. Then describe the post and why you are posting it. Then select a category. Try it out :-). This is a link to a tour of the Gulch. It may help also. https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/hot?...
Thanks Rich ! I'll give it a try. As all the rest of the world is ( literally) disintegrating into chaos, its rejuvenating to come here and find people who still think. :) Thnx
The Gulch focuses on producing things of value - in particular thought. Points are the currency of those thought exchanges.
Here are my guidelines for giving points to others: 1. If I post an article and you respond back, I'm more likely than not to give you a point because I value the feedback and effort. It's not just a participation point, however: I still expect some real thought to be put in. 2. I usually give points to those who challenge my viewpoints if they do so based on a cogent thought process that is presented in a way in which debate is encouraged. If you are concentrating on the true merits of the topic in a thoughtful manner, I'll usually reward you even though you may disagree with me. 3. Any time someone is willing to recheck their premises or their definitions.
When I take away points: 1. Posts with ad hominem attacks or other fallacies will almost always get you a downvote. If you are a logical, thinking person, these kinds of statements should be recognized for the meaningless, emotional outbursts they are. They provide no value to the discussion and are the favorite tactics of those who want to quell thought - not encourage it. 2. Attacks against others' belief systems using broad generalities get a downvote. If you want to pick a specific belief/policy/dogma/etc. and say why you think it is based on logical fallacy, that's perfectly okay, but you've got to have a solid argument that's more than just "it's illogical". That's a conclusion - not an argument - and without an argument to go along with it is just opinion. 3. Posts that devolve into nothing more than rudeness or blatant hostility. These I will downvote AND flag for the moderator. Everyone can disagree, but there is no call for being disagreeable. If your argument can't win on its merits, that should be a sign to check your premises. Tantrums are for my four-year-old. We're adults.
I just gave you a point because you saved me from writing a probably-inferior email saying about the same things. I would only add that if I see a comment at zero or below and if fits your second pointing criterion, I will point it up (irrespective of viewpoint): I am in favor of reasoned disagreement as a tool to refine our thoughts.
as did I, so that you can get that mini-pizza oven which you have had your heart set on ... from the high-points catalog sent out in August. . not the holiday catalog. -- j .
I appreciate the compliment, but I can't think of anyone who is more agreeable in here than you and a very few others. Thanks for all you do to keep the Gulch a place for open thought!
And I like your line about the upvote for disagreement.
Points? The Gulch is very similar to a TV show called "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" where everything is made up and the points don't matter. In a way they are an ego boost but if you need your ego boosted, you may be in the wrong place. The interesting thing about the points is seeing how many people of like mind agree with you. Any more than one would be a top mark in any other blog.
Points - "smoints" - I'm still confused re: 'lurkers' - sometimes a 'lurker' appears over and over again, so I assume it's not a case of "once a lurker always a lurker" eh? Confused!
I don't know about "lurkers" but it's ' points - schmoints." You want to add the sch sound because the phraseology is taken from the commonly used German/Yiddish dialect. Otherwise you give yourself away as being overly gentile. (Tongue-in-cheeck.)
yes. there is a difference between "lurker" (which I do not see as a bad thing) and a troll. Lurker sounds a little negative-I think that's just to encourage people to sign in and participate.
Yes, I agree with "lurker" sounding somewhat negative; kinda brings to mind some guy lurk- ing at schools, offering candy to a child! Re: signing in, often times when I want to post,I am asked if I want to sign in, and I always do. Why not?
Nelly, it's a strange electronic hug which we try to give you when we like your contributions in the gulch here! . if it makes you feel loved, appreciated or at least listened-to, our purpose has been fulfilled!!! -- john .
Hi Nelly. I made a remark about points when I first got here and was surprised by the responses. Some Gulchers really don't like the voting system. I kind of like it myself. Congrats on hitting 100.
khalling, I've been in the Gulch a few years now, commented on occasion and was lucky enough to be chosen for my 5 seconds of fame in AS3. But I've never seen such a innocuous post as yours bring on such a flood of humorous sarcasm. Just goes to show everyone that Gulchers (is that a word?) have more than superior intellect, but a sense of humor as well. Thanks everyone, for making me smile in a week that has had very little humor in it!
Some like the points to vote someone down to foster their own belief system, some like it to support their own ego, and some - I would hope the majority - use it to thank someone for contributing something of value to our small microcosm of life.
It's a limo and a chauffeur named Fifi comes with it.
which makes a neat night-light!!! . have to leave the exhaust
fan on low, though, cuz of the pollution. -- j
.
screwed!!
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/hot?...
As all the rest of the world is ( literally) disintegrating into chaos, its rejuvenating to come here and find people who still think. :)
Thnx
Here are my guidelines for giving points to others:
1. If I post an article and you respond back, I'm more likely than not to give you a point because I value the feedback and effort. It's not just a participation point, however: I still expect some real thought to be put in.
2. I usually give points to those who challenge my viewpoints if they do so based on a cogent thought process that is presented in a way in which debate is encouraged. If you are concentrating on the true merits of the topic in a thoughtful manner, I'll usually reward you even though you may disagree with me.
3. Any time someone is willing to recheck their premises or their definitions.
When I take away points:
1. Posts with ad hominem attacks or other fallacies will almost always get you a downvote. If you are a logical, thinking person, these kinds of statements should be recognized for the meaningless, emotional outbursts they are. They provide no value to the discussion and are the favorite tactics of those who want to quell thought - not encourage it.
2. Attacks against others' belief systems using broad generalities get a downvote. If you want to pick a specific belief/policy/dogma/etc. and say why you think it is based on logical fallacy, that's perfectly okay, but you've got to have a solid argument that's more than just "it's illogical". That's a conclusion - not an argument - and without an argument to go along with it is just opinion.
3. Posts that devolve into nothing more than rudeness or blatant hostility. These I will downvote AND flag for the moderator. Everyone can disagree, but there is no call for being disagreeable. If your argument can't win on its merits, that should be a sign to check your premises. Tantrums are for my four-year-old. We're adults.
Jan
measured approach to things makes me get hot under
the collar!!! -- j
.
MWAHAHAhahaha!
Jan
Jan
you have had your heart set on ... from the high-points
catalog sent out in August. . not the holiday catalog. -- j
.
And I like your line about the upvote for disagreement.
Jan
The Gulch is very similar to a TV show called "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
In a way they are an ego boost but if you need your ego boosted, you may be in the wrong place. The interesting thing about the points is seeing how many people of like mind agree with you. Any more than one would be a top mark in any other blog.
'lurkers' - sometimes a 'lurker' appears over
and over again, so I assume it's not a case of
"once a lurker always a lurker" eh? Confused!
negative; kinda brings to mind some guy lurk-
ing at schools, offering candy to a child! Re:
signing in, often times when I want to post,I am asked if I want to sign in, and I always do. Why not?
when we like your contributions in the gulch here! . if it makes you
feel loved, appreciated or at least listened-to, our purpose
has been fulfilled!!! -- john
.