Galt's Gulch

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Posted by iroseland 10 years, 9 months ago to Science
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Imagine a world where no immunization is required..
SOURCE URL: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2011/antiviral-0810.html

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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 9 months ago
    Excellent information, and it will be interesting to follow how it performs in primates. I wonder if it crosses the blood-brain barrier. Thank you for the lead.

    Jan
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  • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 10 years, 9 months ago
    To imagine a world like that requires much change. While this is a wonderful discovery, it only reminds me of how something as simple as vitamin c given in high IV doses does in fact cure cancer. Ask a doctor. The problem is that if you do not have that knowledge you will not be treated with vitamin c, you will go through becoming a test subject for awful drugs. FDA will not allow this on the market. That would take more than our lifetime to be seen as more important than selling a package of pills.
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    • Posted by LaMuse 10 years, 9 months ago
      Where is the science that proves IV vitamin C cures cancer? I haven't heard that one. Thanks.
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      • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 10 years, 9 months ago
        It actually came from my doctor.
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        • Posted by LaMuse 10 years, 9 months ago
          Please, if you ever get cancer, run from this doctor.
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          • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 10 years, 9 months ago
            already been there, done that and here to tell about it.
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            • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 10 years, 9 months ago
              The problem is that there are ways to cure cancer that have been smothered due to the FDA and big drug industry. Imagine how much money would be lost at the cost of saving human life. This is not new. There are natural ways where if you catch an illness in its infant stage you can cure it. There is so much more that we are never told because of? I happen to one whom refuses to take anything at face value. There is an answer to everything. The journey of exploration to discovery is one I would rather take than forsake. I knew as a child that I did not live in a free country. All one need do is listen and learn. It is not hard to hear a lie if you are disconnected far enough. Never allow emotion to control reason.
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              • Posted by LaMuse 10 years, 9 months ago
                Agree, the maze of FDA red tape can be a challenge to navigate for the medical community, especially when it comes to conducting clinical trials. I am very cynical that cancer can be cured if caught at some early stage in its evolution using natural remedies because there would be scientific evidence to back that up. That's not to say that some individuals haven't benefitted from alternative treatments, because in rare cases some diseases will go into spontaneous remissions. Before cancer can be cured, it has to be understood and we are just now beginning to look at genomes and molecular targeting so that treatments can be individualized. The problem is that cancer is not just one disease, but many and therefore require many different therapies. I think this is a reasonable view
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                • Posted by monalisaturberville1957 10 years, 9 months ago
                  A truth so often ignored is that our soils no longer contain the nutrients, trace minerals, and essentials that are necessary for the foods grown in them to sustain healthy life. It all begins with the smallest seemingly nonessential elements. Modern fertilizer and mono crops have depleted the soils ability to maintain the very essential elements that do provide the necessary nutrients our bodies need. Ever wonder what has caused obesity? Take a food any food that is high in all the vitamins, essential elements, minerals and trace minerals, feed a person and watch how less they eat and how often. It is amazing. Then feed another with processed food and watch what happens, they are hungry within hours. Replenishing our soils is critical to a healthy people. Individualizing is critical as we are all different. Cookie cutter treatment is joke. No two are the same.
                  Your view is a reasonable one.
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      • Posted by g4lt 10 years, 9 months ago
        I don't know if Pauling actually did any double-blinds of it, but he certainly "walked the walk" when it came to megadoses of Vitamin C, and died of prostrate cancer at 90, when most men die of it at 50 (yah, yah, the plural of anecdote is not data)
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        • Posted by LaMuse 10 years, 9 months ago
          True, there have been some studies done that seem to indicate high IV doses of vitamin C can ameliorate some chemotherapy treatments, however, depending on the type of cancer it can also make chemo less effective. I don't think it has ever been presented as a "cure" by itself. However, many alternative therapies have a place when used responsibly with contemporary medicine.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 9 months ago
    What a fantastic find iroseland. Now for the years long process of FDA rules, regs, and tape.

    But on the other hand, it appears that government funding helped a great deal. I'm not sure how DARPA got involved, but OK.
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    • Posted by $ Snezzy 10 years, 9 months ago
      DARPA is the major funding source for MIT Lincoln Lab. MIT-LL has been called "a one-ohm resistor across the US Treasury" but in my experience has been a very straightforward and science-oriented lab. They are an exception to some of the stuff that gets frunded.

      DARPA (originally ARPA) funded the development of the ARPANET, predecessor of the Internet. Some of the work was done at MIT LCS and MIT-LL, other work at Stanford and other academic places.
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