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I just found another Ayn Rand fan.

Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 1 month ago to The Gulch: General
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Across the street from our family business a demo company has been tearing down 3 old abandoned homes. It's a small town so a number of people came up to watch. I heard a lot of them comment on the skill of the heavy equipment operator. His boss told me that he was the best operator he had. I talked to him today and when he saw my Atlas Shrugged sweat shirt he called it the greatest book ever written. He asked if I had read any of her other books and he told me he had read just about everything she had written. Not surprising that someone highly skilled in their profession is a fan of Rand. He said he had read AS while in college and that it didn't make him very popular. He said Penn State was filled with libtards (pretty cool hearing someone else use that term). It's always fun to find like minds. I told him about the Gulch. Hope he joins.


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  • Posted by cjferraris 9 years, 1 month ago
    I didn't get turned on to AS until about 2 1/2 years ago. I wished I'd heard about it during HS because my life would definitely been different. I grew up in the South in the '60s and '70s and was taught self-reliance, but never about the virtues of selfishness. I used to define selfishness as the person who is drowning and almost drowns the person trying to save them. I've come to define it in the "affix your oxygen mask before attending someone else" attitude. How can we be of any benefit for anyone if we don't have control of our own destiny?
    I'm sure that had I learned about things like this, I would have demanded a better wage for myself and my talents and probably would have started my own business when I was at my most productive instead of keeping a job for the benefits.
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    • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 1 month ago
      There is a commercial, I keep hearing, where a young lady is so busy taking care of others that she has been neglecting her own needs. She makes it sound as though her needs were an afterthought.
      Then, I watch the nightly news where they interview young schoolchildren who's main goal in life is to help others.
      We've forgotten what it's like to be somewhat selfish and take care of ourselves, first. I think we need to re-learn that skill and teach others how to properly practice "selfishness".
      Lastly, when I "help others", I usually focus on those who show some initiative to help themselves, rather than the moochers, who merely take...
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  • Posted by $ sekeres 9 years, 1 month ago
    This summer, when hunting a replacement watch battery while wearing an AS shirt, found a young fan working the jewelry counter at Walmart. She seemingly knew how to use every tool the department had and their entire stock, complete with cross references. Reminded me of the way the Gulchers kept outside jobs for 11 months of the year.
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  • Posted by pd4pd51939 9 years, 1 month ago
    i just landed about 5 minutes again ago. i am very happy i found this place. i signed up a month ago but was to busy to do anything on here ..,i am 76 years old and started reading her when i was in my thirties . I have read almost everything back to when she wrote in broken english.i saw her talk at the Ford Forum in Boston Mass , a few years before she died ,( I think those years are right?) i have forgot a lot, so it is interesting .. hearing all those ideas again. I hope i can add something to this forum..
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
    The thing about Atlas is that if it inspires you, you must read it again. It is so crammed with ways of expressing the ways of putting things that you constantly say, "I wish I had thought of that" regarding the expression of ideas. Then there is the subtlety of the way action is portrayed, or not portrayed. Why did he/she do this or that. You give it some thought and after a while a flashbulb goes off and you have the satisfaction of discovery.

    _ *For you younger Gulchers, that was the way film for photographs were illuminated in darker situations before strobe light circuitry was invented.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
      I had read a while back that the more interesting a book the lower your comprehension. The theory being that a more interesting book sparks ideas and you tend to let your mind wander. I am finding that to be true with AS. I am getting just as much out of it this time as I did the first.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
        After reading a chapter or two, I admire the thought that went into it. I could never write in that manner. I lack the patience. It's no wonder she took so much time to write Atlas.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago
          It gets better with age. My first copy was a present from a neighbor. It's the only book I make a point of keeping three on hand. One if one of mine wears out and one to give to someone. The third book now numbers a bit over one per every year of publication. I've never used the second book but just in case it's there. for a while that's all there was but along with Heinlein and a few others it made for some memorable moments. Especially if i act out the dogs being treated better than children then follow it with some Rand-isms. I can't imagine ever doing a re-read and not finding some new nugget.

          Comment on writing. the way to learn is write. But it helps to have some guidance some structure. I found fiction to be the most challenging so much so I saved it for retirement and finished the first draft at 5k plus pages. Then the tear at your heart part commences. Slash slash slash ...But I still have the original. first drafts. For publication? Probably not.For gifts undoubtedly.....as a way of thanking people who made a difference in my life.
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  • Posted by jchinoy 9 years, 1 month ago
    This is my first comment here so I'll try to make it brief. I too read AS when I was in college and found your story interesting. In fact, now that I'm in my 60's and have a lot of time on my hands I'm going to read it again. This has also a lot to do with what's going on in India at the moment - the right to free speech and other liberties that go with it are seriously endangered. Thank you for post, Rich Robinson.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
      I just talked to another customer and told her this story. She said she read it in college and enjoyed it but didn't get it. She wants to read it again also. I am listening to it on CD now and I'm realizing how much I missed on my first reading. Quite an amazing woman.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago
        The complete unabridged audio book is excellent, rich. Its my first choice for coast to coast driving.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
          I remember reading in the Gulch that some people had read AS multiple times. I wondered why. Now I get it. There is a lot to absorb and I find my mind wandering as I equate things to modern day.
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          • Posted by gaiagal 9 years, 1 month ago
            I thoroughly enjoy re-reading books that predict a dystopian future - especially when the future arrives. Atlas Shrugged and 1984 are two of my favs for re-reading. Been re-reading 1984 since 1964 when I was 10 and AS since I was 16. Oh and a number of Heinlein books also. Actually, this thread has made me think (as most Gulch threads do) about what I do and how I think - I actually re-read a lot of non-fictions: Potok, Dostoevsky, Piers Anthony, Kosinski, Koontz (One Door Away from Heaven especially, its an interesting statement on bio(non)ethics) to name a few.

            I also realize I re-read books that were contemporary to the author's day...and then I compare the situations to the modern day. This can be rather eye-opening

            Never realized how much of my thinking and behavior is on autopilot. The Gulch, oddly enough, has served to impart to me what the New Age drivel couldn't: living in the present moment, being aware of actions and intent :)

            But I can say I rarely watch a movie or a TV series more than once. The exceptions are the AS movies and the Firefly TV series and movie, Serenity.
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      • Posted by injun2 9 years, 1 month ago
        Same with me. I read Fountainhead and AS when I was about 19 or 20, thought it was interesting philosophically, but without having any experience in the real world the impact was no greater than any other great work, say War and Peace. This time the impact was Orwellian, which made me wonder what it would be like to re-read 1984 and Animal Farm. It is eerie how prescient both authors were.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
          Absolutely. I always wish I had found Rands works earlier in life but I doubt I would have fully understood it. It's funny how much I knew at 21 and how much I don't know at 51.
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  • Posted by pd4pd51939 9 years, 1 month ago
    I fogot to add that i have never took typing or learned how, with more than 2 fingers, if my typing isnt good enough (or my spelling i'm sorry )and will be content to just read what other members write?
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    • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
      Hell, you actually type with 1 finger more than me. This is a wonderful blog which corrects some goofs for you and allows you to edit. You'll enjoy the Gulch much more if you contribute to it.
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  • Posted by $ Maree 9 years, 1 month ago
    Great story RR
    I was on Malaysian Air recently and my mate seated nearby was re-reading the AS i gave him ages ago
    A chap stops to talk about it.
    As we're disembarking at KLIA i wrote WIJG and our gulch address and gave it to him. Big grins.
    It was my private 'Dannesjold with burlap package' moment.
    Keep up the good work Rich.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
      That's great. I love wearing the AS stuff to work. I never know who will come up and say they are a fan. They always seem relieved to find out there are more of us out there.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 9 years, 1 month ago
    It is so nice to find fellow Objectivists out there, huh? Reminds me of when Dagney spotted John Galt in her crowd of railroad workers.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
      I have realized too that Rand fans are everywhere. I had a customer come in who is a retired executive and had a Who is John Galt license plate holder. A women working the deli counter at our local market is a huge fan. A young 20 something couple came in one day and said they loved AS. It is fun to find like minds.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago
    I put my mechanical engineering professors on notice by
    carrying AS with my books and slide rule. . I am certain
    that my grading was different as a result -- some better
    and some, worse. . it was a curious thing, because
    my primary purpose there was not grades, but knowledge. -- j
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    • Posted by 9 years, 1 month ago
      I went to college with the same mind set. I wanted to learn and grades were not very relevent. I have always found the people that hate Rand to be especially passionate in their hate.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago
        People hate having to face themselves on dark evenings and admit their whole lives are trashed. The good ones change. The rest are dross at best they are two afraid to admit their afraid of the dark and can't make it on their own.
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      • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 1 month ago
        I got decent grades, but when it came time to take the "EIT"
        and the PE, I aced them both. . that, and since my engineering
        bosses loved the fact that I really knew the trade, told
        my professors that I got it. -- j
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 1 month ago
    Two years ago someone at a UU event said, "I agreed with a lot of what you said in your talk, but X sounded almost Ayn Rand-like." He said he would consider that a compliment but went on to address the question.

    A while later I mentioned Ayn Rand to someone else from that congregation. She said she remembered reading it long ago and really liked it. It's almost like she was cautious about admitting it becuase people would wrongly think you can't be liberal and be an Ayn Rand fan.
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  • Posted by radical 9 years, 1 month ago
    I've read AS 3 times, the first one being in 1966. In 1983 I created my own Gulch. It has served me well.
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