Ayn Rand in the college curriculum

Posted by TheLittleAustrian 9 years, 1 month ago to Education
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The College experience in the liberal arts tradition is meant to expose students to many different perspectives and let those individuals make decisions for themselves. When thinking for oneself, Rand spoke that an individual should check their premises. I would hope, but ultimately am disheartened that many faculty who opposed these grants are letting their own biases and premises get in the way of promoting free and critical thinking. Instead, they seem to be open to active censorship of Rand's work.
SOURCE URL: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/10/16/new-paper-details-extent-bbt-banks-ayn-rand-inspired-grant-program


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  • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 1 month ago
    I read the article and the comments by cd and here is my reaction.

    As a philosopher and scientist I can say with assurance that CD's polemic does not speak for contemporary philosophy. His Platonist , Kantian, anti-science and reason view is contrasted with the growing Aristotle, Locke, Rand view of harmony between science and a philosophy based on observation of the real world using the cognitive process of reason based on identification of similarities and differences between properties of the particulars of existence. Rand's contribution to the Aristotle/Locke thread of philosophy was to build on their work to create a systematic complete philosophical system which integrates ethics with observation of the real world not the fantasy land of religion and idealism of cd. Rand's theory of universals is the first by a philosopher which both informs epistemology and is confirmed by contemporary evolutionary biology, sensory ecology, information theory, and biothermodynamics. A concrete example of the paradigm shift from idealism to rational empiricism in Philosophy is the forthcoming book in the Blackwell series of Companions to Philosophy, "A Companion to the Philosophy of Ayn Rand." These are not published except for the work of major philosophers.

    Finally cd should know Quine, Goodman, Elgin and other contemporary philosophers have happily buried the analytic, a priori, and necessary schools of philosophy. But as Kuhn showed the old school represented by cd doesn't change as their world changes, they just have to pass away with old age to make room for the new and revolutionary, It's really nice to have a philosophy that fits the world as we experience it.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 1 month ago
    The article seemed to me to be saying that the colleges are desperate for funding and that pro-capitalist sources of funds were insisting their philosophies be represented in the curriculum. The solution is logical: the colleges that do not want these funds can refuse them; if they close, so be it. If a college wants the funds, then they can openly accept them; if the flourish, fine and good.

    The removal of public funding is a step in the right direction...successful alumni may well be capitalists and the colleges might have to get used to this. The article indicated that the donations were covert: If the funds were covertly attached to a requirement then that was wrong and should not be done. But if I were to make a donation specifically for a Chair in fungal phages, I would expect that this would be done in return for my money - and that not only would this not be wrong, but my name would be displayed on a wall somewhere as a donor. The fact that the University had not had a prior desire for a Fungal Phage Department is not a consideration; now they have one.

    Jan
    sl rewording
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    • Posted by ewv 9 years, 1 month ago
      This is not the first time Inside Higher Ed has attacked the BBT program. The article didn't mention that the grants were based on faculty member desires to participate, even when other faculty and pressure groups hostile to Ayn Rand opposed them. What good would it do to give money for something no one wants to teach and who would only misrepresent and attack Ayn Rand? They apparently believe that "the faculty" is entitled to taxpayer and foundation funds to support whatever agenda the professors want while excluding ideas they don't want discussed. The violation of academic freedom and freedom of speech is coming from those who think they are entitled to support from those of us who reject the ideas they are spreading.
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      • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 1 month ago
        I did not know that backstory. Thanks ewv.

        "What good would it do to give money for something no one wants to teach..." Well, were I rich enough to be able to endow some obscure college with a well-funded Chair for Fungal Phages, you would probably get researchers who were interested in that esoteric topic applying from all over the world to occupy it. This would result in undergrad students who knew more about fungal phages than profs in other colleges knew, and they would pick up good jobs in Big Pharma when they graduated. Then you would get a grad school program...etc. The obscure college might become renown for its innovative studies in fungal phages.

        I don't know how it works in philosophy, but in science there is definitely a "build and they will come" entry point to success. If a failing college got Koch funding and made a really good set of Ayn Rand courses...Do you think it would it follow the fungal phage progression?

        Jan
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  • Posted by robgambrill 9 years, 1 month ago
    Luckily, the engineering program I am working on has very few liberal arts requirements. I asked if Rand was considered in the philosophy survey course, and they almost snickered.

    So I took "Intro to Logic and Critical Thinking" to get the credit, and it ended up being one of my favorite courses so far.
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    • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 1 month ago
      On the odd chance that you hope to innovate in engineering take time to read Whewell's theory of induction and the scientific method along with Rand's epistemology. Whewell shows you haw to do it and Rand shows you how to form the concepts which make it work. Where Harriman goes wrong is that creation is a conscious process not an epistemological one as the sub-conscious brain does the integrations arriving at the "a ha" moment. Sometime next year my lab will have an on line course for mastery of induction in the innovative process. Watch for it.
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      • Posted by ewv 9 years, 1 month ago
        Inductive generalization of principles is not the same as concept formation. They are two different forms of generalization. Ayn Rand emphatically rejected the notion that her epistemology of concepts is the same as the process of generalization in the "problem of induction". Leonard Peikoff should have known better than to claim that his theory of induction (published in David Harriman's book) is an application of Ayn Rand's philosophy. His claim for self-validating first level generalizations is also wrong; he did not even correctly use Ayn Rand's principle of "first level concepts".

        Creative ideas rely on both conscious and subconscious processing but the subconscious in not infallible and is not a substitute for conscious validation of ideas and not a substitute for epistemology. The "problem of induction" is epistemological, not psychology.

        Whewell was heavily influenced by Kant. He does not "show how to do it".
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        • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 1 month ago
          I take issue with both your points. Whewell's best pupil was Darwin who paid tribute to Whewell in the dedication of "The Origin" Darwin knew how to do it. What Whewell did was recognize that the creative process uses induction but that induction in the mind must be prepared by a careful study of the related concepts as Bacon required. But what Whewell did not know was how to form the new concept that would integrate the particular concepts. This was Rand's achievement and it fits Whewell's process perfectly. You have to find what is common across a large number of particulars and measurement omission is a crucial part. Apply the rule of fundamentality and your mind will produce the aha moment. Harriman presents the logic of the structure of induction but not the cognitive method of induction. Whewell is still the best overall view. See Laura J. Snyder's work on Whewell for correcting your problem with Kant. Whewell drew from Bacon not Kant on scientific method. God was never far from Whewell's mind but he believed science would advance civilization not the noumenal world.
          Conscious validation comes when you have the hypothesis and Whewell called it "conciliation" where the hypothesis is tested against the known science looking for how it fits with the rest of knowledge.
          Remember man has free will so logic is a tool and how one uses it is up to you. Rand knew her theory of concept formation was not the solution to the problem of induction but what I in my research on innovation and Dr. Peikoff have shown is that induction is the reverse of the validation of concepts. Darwin's discovery of how atolls are formed is a classic example. Prigogine's discovery of dissipative structure is also.
          What Rand and Whewell have done is reduce the probability of failure in induction.
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      • Posted by robgambrill 9 years, 1 month ago
        Not personally familiar with Whewell, though I think I have seen his name in connection to George Polya somewhere. From some cursory internet searching, I think I see why.

        I have read a little of Quine and Kuhn. I see amazon has "Theory of Scientific Method", in paperback. I'll have to get a copy.

        Please be sure and post when the on-line course becomes available! I would be very interested in it.
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        • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 1 month ago
          I have started work on the course focused on mastering the process of innovation for organizations. The key is training individuals to have a reliable method of using induction to innovate in a productive way. I started with some Bio-tech firms as models but would love to hear from someone on what they would like out of such a course. I just gave a paper on Quine and can tell you to be careful as he held that the unit of knowledge is the "sentence" and denied the reduction of words to observations. I show the opposite and that's why Rand, Locke, and Aristotle all go together. Send me a personal note and maybe you can help me shape the content of the course. Thanks
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    • Posted by ewv 9 years, 1 month ago
      You are lucky that you have few "liberal arts" requirements. Their tendency towards cognitive destruction is worse than a waste of time and effort at a time when you need and want to be learning science and engineering.

      I also chose a college that downplayed the "humanities" and am glad I did. There was an emphasis, at least in promotions, on the "well rounded engineer" educated in the "humanities" for a small portion of the curriculum, and I naively started out taking them on good faith, but soon realized they were garbage. Now I know they were even more destructive than that.

      You probably did get a lot of value out of your "Intro to Logic and Critical Thinking", but be careful of wrong and damaging ideas which may have been passed along with it. See Ayn Rand's Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology (including the appendix with Leonard Peikoff's the "Analytic Synthetic Dichotomy", Leonard Peikoff's Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand, and his lecture series especially on the history of philosophy and on logic. If you enjoyed the logic and critical thinking course you took, you will get a lot more out of these.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 1 month ago
      The need is absolute and simple. Armed with the information add a dose of Moral Philosophy (the one Heinlein championed) and one can a. measure their own belief system independently of the group and determine it's real validity - to yourself. The second area of course is something that should be near and dear to an engineer objective vs. subjective and practical vs. pragmatic. Measured by yourself. In the end it's your self that take the laurels or pays the price. No one else. I had to take the course on my own as a non fee paid elective. Best class I ever had.
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      • Posted by ewv 9 years, 1 month ago
        Heinlein doe not provide Ayn Rand's ethics. Robgambrill was trying to find a course on Ayn Rand's philosophy.

        The distinction between the objective versus the subjective is only part of Ayn Rand's principle. She identified the intrinsic-subjective-objective trichotomy.

        There is a thread on resources required to learn Ayn Rand's philosophy here on the forum: https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
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  • Posted by TomSwift 9 years, 1 month ago
    My roommate at University was a fourth-year Philosophy student. He had never heard of Ayn Rand or Objectivism. I took a few Philosophy courses and they bothered me since they went on and on about old philosophers who had been proven wrong or were obsolete. I was a Physics major at the time and in Physics, when an idea is old and obsolete, we stop studying it.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 1 month ago
    Never seen any of them complain about faking data and lying when doing all kinds of environmental "research" and claiming that global warming is killing the planet, while being handsomely funded by socialist/government organizations!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 1 month ago
    That's the whole idea...squelch free thinking, critical thinking; they are being made in the image of the left. Can we say...the De-evolution of mankind. They've been at it since the fall of Babylon.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 1 month ago
    The truth of the matter s that it doesn't matter what is taught in liberal arts curriculums. Students of the Lib. Art mode of learning are there not to learn, but are merely in pursuit of a piece of paper, which they hope will give them entry to a somewhat better job upon graduation. Even that premise is no longer valid, let alone any attempt to keep anything taught from going in one ear, staying in the brain until tested and then leaving immediately. If anything, universities seem to decrease the intelligence of most graduates of Liberal Arts.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 1 month ago
    I started at a state college and transferred to a private university - both taught Rand, and well. At the time, my brother at OSU was required to read Mao's little red book, Ok, but then told to embrace the ideas. Later our daughter went to a pricey private conservative college, but still encountered a rabid socialist teaching history, and trying to insist students agree with him.
    College is a dangerous journey, from picking one, to making sure it does what it represented.
    Why to the "Atlas Shrugged"-fearing faculty object to letting students decide for themselves, but don't mind if Bill Ayers is taught, Saul Alinsky, or if money comes from the one world Rockefeller Foundation, or other liberal donors. No the idea is to keep freed thouhht out of colleges.So, the economically ignorant students try to work for corporations with no ida of how capitalism is supposed to work. Worse, they have a resentment of it for not being socialism. Current colleges leave students ill-prepared for the real work place and in constant search for some Marxist utopia.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 9 years, 1 month ago
    And the state governments haven't dictated what
    is to be taught in the colleges (and other public
    schools)?--
    Perhaps it would be a better idea to put all that
    money together and start an Objectivist college
    or university, avowedly and openly Objectivist
    (just as Bob Jones University is avowedly and
    openly Christian, and Notre-Dame University is
    avowedly and openly Christian Catholic).
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