Our Foundation Has Crumbled

Posted by Chortovka 11 years, 6 months ago to Economics
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I see three major issues that must be corrected before we can even begin to think about the economy. (1) We have the highest percent of single parent homes and the highest percent of teenage pregnancies in the world. We must rebuild the family unit, teach our children the basics of what we had to learn .... discipline, morals, ethics, self-respect, self-reliance. (2) Our educational system is broken ... even our teachers and administrators change test scores and engage in sex with students. A country won't prosper when its citizens can't read and write, can't critically think, and don't know the Constitution. (3) Take the federal government back to its original job description ... arbitrate disputes between the states, provide for a common defense, conduct foreign policy, collect monies for those tasks ... and move everything else back to the state level where it can be controlled by the people.

Until we rebuild our foundation, we won't fix the economy and we won't have Conservative principles. We can pretend all we want, apply a multitude of bandaids, make more and more changes to regulate more and more people, spend more and more money, but if the foundation remains broken ... it "ain't" going to matter.


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  • Posted by LionelHutz 11 years, 6 months ago
    I don't think "we" have broken anything - but we have enabled bad behavior. If we stopped giving single parent homes and pregnant teenagers tax money to "help" them in their situation, the problem would be greatly reduced because people would self-regulate behavior that was no longer subsidized. It wouldn't go down to zero, of course.

    I think the answer to the second half of point one and all of point two is to walk away from the public education system. WIthdraw your kids from the public schools and be vocal about why you are doing it. We also need to work to change the laws so we are not required to pay for a service (public schools) we are not using (easily over 50% of property taxes goes to paying for public schools, regardless of if you have any kids attending one).

    I don't think point three will be corrected in my lifetime, but we've clearly got to work on reducing what the fedgov is involved in. A big part of the reason we're meeting resistance in fixing anything is just how much federal government spending IS the economy. We have people screaming today that we can't cut government spending because it will harm the economy. How screwed up is that? How did government get so big that when it takes a cut, the entire nation hurts? The only way that really happens is if you've got businesses that are only in existence because government is their main customer. The War on Terror has a lot to do with that, I think.
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  • Posted by BenjaminGrimm 11 years, 5 months ago
    In reply to your comment, "2) Our educational system is broken ... even our teachers and administrators change test scores and engage in sex with students. A country won't prosper when its citizens can't read and write, can't critically think, and don't know the Constitution.", I never miss a chance to mention this book:

    Dumbing Down Our Kids: Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves But Can't Read, Write, or Add by Charles J. Sykes


    http://www.amazon.com/Dumbing-Down-Our-K...
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 11 years, 6 months ago
    Welkome to the communist party. We won't fix this country until we start identifying the enemy. And we can't do that until we have the courage to call them out as communists. There's a reason why the Communist Party USA sued the DNC for platform theft back in 2009.
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    • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
      The communist party doesn't care what you think or do. THEY are professionally organized - we are individually minded - independent. -- They win.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 11 years, 6 months ago
    Speaking from experience, I can tell you the biggest reason college professors are overwhelmingly liberal is that they hire only liberals like themselves. A division chair once told me his faculty voted to blackball a candidate because they were "afraid of her." I asked why and he said she once worked for Gingrich when he was speaker. One would think a black woman with a Ph.D. who had such experience would be a top candidate, but these libtards wouldn't even consider her for part-time teaching. This is typical of the liberal shit that goes on in academia. (I apologize for my language.)
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  • Posted by Adam 11 years, 4 months ago
    Which conservative principles? Would they happen to be related to Ms. Rand's essay Conservatism: An Obituary, in which she destroys conservatism?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 11 years, 4 months ago
    You are 100% correct. I've been saying the exact same things. The only thing I've added is that we need to make manufacturing a priority again.
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  • Posted by flanap 11 years, 6 months ago
    Addressed to the OPs topic...doesn't anyone think for a minute that there has to be one true answer to all this?
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  • Posted by COMPRIMISEtangent 11 years, 6 months ago
    Nothing is as it seems. I can see that as people we compromise, and as a fault we are never going to be resurrected as beings of life. We should be judged by individual achievement, not that you teacher does or that your city does. We are but pawns. Speak the truth.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 6 months ago
    How do you suggest we go about regaining morality?
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    • Posted by 11 years, 6 months ago
      THAT is the million dollar question. Other than starting with a child at birth, I don't have a clue. Maybe we'll just have to wait until we really do collapse and then, from the ashes, rebuild.
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      • Posted by Mitch 11 years, 6 months ago
        You know, at one time, I agreed with your assessment that we will have to hit bottom before we can begin to turn around what is happening to our citizens and country. What really is scary is how long it is going to take to hit bottom. We are talking multiple generations, I don’t even think we will hit bottom before I expire. This has been in the making since the late 60’s, slowly getting a foothold; this is going to take some time to turn it around. Look at the youth today and even most of my generation (GenXer), they have no understanding of the Constitution nor basic critical thinking skills. The protest are people demanding equality and their fair share. If we descend into anarchy, this is the direction we will go. I recently changed my opinion about hitting bottom, I think it’s exactly their plan and why this SOB is doing everything possible to undermine our Constitution. When we enter our second great depression, they will point and say see, I told you so and the sheep will follow. I’m truly worried for my four daughters and what this country holds for them.
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        • Posted by khalling 11 years, 6 months ago
          Good points, Mitch.
          As AR said, it only takes a small, LOUD minority to change things. The scariest thing to combat is when the truth is right out there in the open and it is purposely ignored. That is an act of deliberation rather than ignorance. Those who engage in these tactics depend on the populace to NOT use critical thinking. I am convinced Common CORE is set up in such a way to use intimidation to discourage students from using critical thinking. "C'mon, you KNOW it's wrong," "That's immoral." Indoctrination mob rule style. I hope you've been watching your daughters' curriculum like a hawk or they are privately schooled.
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        • Posted by $ Abaco 11 years, 4 months ago
          Well said, Mitch. I often dread that I'm a parent living in this mess - that I have kids I need to prepare to be able to navigate the collapse that is certainly coming.
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      • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 6 months ago
        It occurred to me recently that one of the reasons that we might have so many liberals and progressive in high academic positions is because most of them represent the baby boomer generation, and good many of them would have chosen to stay in school to avoid the Vietnam draft. My philosophy is don’t go looking for trouble you can’t see. In other words, there is no reason to assume that there is some great conspiracy to control the hearts and minds of people. Things just work out that way sometimes. Maybe all this country is really suffering from is a bunch of menopausal hippies. :) Ten years,I think the tide will turn, and fortunately I am a patient woman. I am with Ayn Rand that you don’t look to heal the whole system, but just work with what you can reach. If you have kids, that is a sufficient place to start. If you don’t then, maybe a neighbor? If not, then just keep yourself happy. You are of a value. But whatever you do, don’t waste your time with irrational people.
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        • Posted by khalling 11 years, 6 months ago
          I pretty much disagree with you. this isn't baby boomer gen-this is two generations past that of public school indoctrination. this is Obama in the first term asking graduates (who can't find jobs) to go teach in poor communities and spout the liberal BS they learned in school, then college to unformed minds across the states. Did he ask students to "serve their community" in geriatric centers? we are exploding seniors. (baby boomers). no. ONLY volunteer with the youth. connect the dots
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          • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 6 months ago
            Obviously I am talking about professors at the college level, and I’m only going by what I have witness, since returning to school. Many teachers are very liberal. Many are progressives, and many of them are close to retiring.Despite their short comings, I’m having a grand time learning a lot. I claimed avoiding the Vietnam draft was my rationale, and might be only of one contributing factors. I am not pleased with the job Obama has done, but he still my president, and this is still my country. I can’t be rational about “what to do” if I am suppose to have a Pavlov's dog reaction whenever I see or hear Obama’s name. If people have been paying attention, and truly sick of what they are seeing the Dems will lose the Senate come next year, and maybe Obama will spend the last two years in Mexico where he usually goes when he doesn’t get his way. Either way, he is out of here in three. Cheers.
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  • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
    Sadly WE will not come together to defeat these Demoncarats, (Liberals, Progressives, Fascists, Communist, public welfare recipients, etc.

    We are independent minded. We are Fair Minded and believe in live and let live for the most part. But when "THEY" get together they form laws which take away our rights because we have done nothing to fight back and protect ourselves and our children. WE LOOSE.
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  • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
    In times of Chaos our minds can only handle limited information and shuts down, refusing to listen, to hear more, to look for solutions. WE JUST GIVE UP.

    Some of us are more resilient but I have reached the point that I no longer "expect" people to deal with reality so I just keep things to myself and function alone. A lone wolf type of mentality.

    I know I can rely only on myself and my abilities so that is what I am doing.

    Good luck.
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    Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
    When YOU are to the point that you have no other alternatives than to go and ACTUALLY take matters into your own hands, then things will change.

    But we know you won't because you will be standing alone. Your friends and like-minded people will stand and watch them take you down. Only if you have some success will "Some" join you. If a few of you have success then the Federal Government or even your local government will shut you down quicker than you can say "Oh Shit".
    Sorry. That is your reality. That is my reality. That is everyone's reality because we do not stand shoulder to should and fight when we should. We wait until it is a lost cause then we ask, what can we do?
    The answer is nothing................
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    Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
    Poor lost sole.
    Don't you know that nobody today does anything except for themselves? You don't stand a change to change things unless you are willing to pick up a gun and start shooting.
    But you will never do that because that is against the law and you are a fair minded person.
    THEY use those factors against you and me. They don't care about what is fair and legal. They change (or ignore) the laws so that you are the bad guy for wanting to take charge of your life and to properly educate your children.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
      Who is the lost soul?
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      • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
        You - because you think people will stand up and join ranks and defeat the left.

        You and I (and a very few others) are willing to do so but the rest just quake in their boots and don't want to get involved.

        I guess we (both) are poor lost soles...............
        We have only ourselves to rely on.
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        • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
          No, I don't believe people will stand up, join ranks, and defeat the left. As I said before, there's too many of "them" and not enough of "us." The problems are too severe, too intertwined, and we've gone too far over the precipice to recover from the meltdown that looms on the horizon. I don't mind relying on myself. I'm a survivor. I certainly don't consider myself "lost."
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          • Posted by JossAmbrose 11 years, 5 months ago
            "there's too many of "them" and not enough of "us.""

            Just like the UK. Most people I know are Lefty idiots. Their 'morality' is everywhere. All I've seen for the past 24 hours is people blindly defending Islam & witch hunting anyone who's even slightly miffed at the fact that someone's been hacked to death by two rabid racists screaming "Allahu Akbar". This mindset is ingrained too deeply in society now & regrettably I think the only thing that will turn people back to rationality is a full blown take over by the Communists. We'll all be saying "I told you so" at that point but it'll be too late. We'll need a real Gulch to escape to before too long.
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          • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
            You are probably correct. As long as you believe something to be true it becomes true.

            As for myself, I will fight till my last breath or the last drop of blood drips from my body but along the way I will find others who are willing to fight and stand up and fight back.

            If I die, I will die in good company.

            If I die alone it is because there are to many spineless people like yourself.

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    Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
    One solution. Overwhelm the system. Become a social leach (financially) Get Section 8 housing. Get Food Stamps, go on welfare. Sell your valuables and turn it into gold and silver. Hide it. Become a burden on society till society itself collapses.

    Pick up the pieces and start all over again..THAT is what Ayn Rand understood.
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        Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
        You obviously were not paying attention.

        People with character and morals do not surrender their character. They already have character and are not dependent on others. Intelligence is learned and if you have not learned in a reasonable period of time you become one of the problems and not one of the solutions.
        If we surrender our character, we have nothing left.
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        Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
        You obviously do not understand logic and moral thought, YOU are the the ones we have to eliminate or reeducate. Lots of luck in understanding the most basic principals of human morality.
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    • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
      Really? I never read that philosophy in any of her books ... not in the Fountainhead, not in Atlas Shrugged, not in Anthem, and not in We the Living. Besides, I refuse to be a serf.
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        Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
        You obviously weren't paying attention or have the intelligence to comprehend. You are of typical low brow thinkers and are of no consequence in the scheme of things.
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        Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
        You are already a serf. You are just not intellectually smart enough to think for yourself We can easily do without your input
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        • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago
          Well. Looks like we have another troll.
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          • Posted by wgingram1 11 years, 5 months ago
            Yes - another troll.
            One who loves to kick you in the butt from time to time to wake you up and see if you are truly paying attention.
            Obviously it doesn't work on dead heads that love Obama or their Freedom.
            Good luck with the future because you don't have one unless you get the wax (if that brown stuff in your ears is wax) out of your ears and start listening and watching what is going on around you.
            Bye for now.
            I'm quite sure you will be hearing from me in the future as some people DO EVENTUALLY wake up.
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