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Courage is important. The snoozer looses.
On the other hand, there's an old story of a wealthy young man who was considering marrying one of 3 women, but he was worried his wife might squander his hard earned wealth. So he gave each $1000 to see what they would do with the money.
The first bought herself a lot of jewelry and clothes and got nothing for him.
The second bought an equal amount of similar stuff for her and him.
The third invested the money and made a significant profit, then treated both to something nice with that profit..
Which one did he marry?
The one with the biggest boobs.
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I'm dusting off the rust, since I've been with my hero-wife 60 years. We've been high, low, at each other's throats but living without one another is absolutely unimaginable.
And you have a hero-wife for 60 years... Makes you a hero then in my book.
Congratulations on staying with your wife for 60 years! I'm very glad to hear it.
Compare to others?
"If you compare yourself to others you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself." -- Max Ehrmann. If you are honest with yourself and are tuned in to the real world, you won't need a comparison. You'll know. But if you're not a genius you can always be a hero.
I have read (and can recommend) the book Blink (I think I got a lead to this book here in the Gulch). It talks about fast decision making and how accurate such decisions are. Going with your 'first 10 sec impression' is actually a functional plan.
Jan
Jan
2) Long term requires a very similar hierarchy of values which requires both of you to place a higher value on reason than on emotions. Not easy but doable.
(Sexual attraction, for you and for me, is a direct product of admiration of the person's mind/actions. It wouldn't be right, to me, to be attracted to a person for any other reason.)
2. That makes sense, and also explains a lot about the relationships I've seen.
With any relationship involving two people you can't quantify the why's exactly from outside, only they can. And even their answers are subjectively theirs, their partner's are likely to be very different even though they share the relationship in common.
Yeah, she had a pretty face and nice tits. Still does, imnsho, but a common religious heritage (although I've gone atheist since marriage) and an affinity for pizza, chocolate, root beer... and appreciation of Atlas Shrugged (really!) helped build a foundation, too. I'm post-bariatric surgery now, down about 170 pounds, so pizza and soft drinks are pretty much off the menu for now (except chocolate...), some changes are to be expected, eh?
But getting married a bit later in life, and with some advice from a Wonderful Rabbi... finding someone willing to support You in the areas that are Important to You AND Being willing to support Them in the areas important to them...
Priceless.
Possessiveness raises it head and jealousy burns holes through our matrix and we know we will start to unravel...
There is an absolute need to enter the mind of the beloved, (what do you believe, what do you want from life, what do you need, etc.), and the all encompassing urgency to possess the body of the beloved because only this, this need to crawl inside that which we have identified as the counterpart of ourselves, then and only then do we know that we are not alone. This ancient elemental force that pulls us into this union of mind and body where we are at once magnified and multiplied by the bonding of the 'two', life affirming, where we are made whole but not wholly by the other.
Anyway, I couldn't help laughing at your "for worse" comment! Humor, alleviates so many of the tribulations of the day-to-day, long term relationships. Those who have this gift are fortunate indeed.
Thank you.
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There are lots of books and studies of your topic.
As I've aged and seen relationships formed and broken around me (relatives, friends, etc.), my question is why people are and remain attracted to those who do not treat them well or even abuse them.
Particularly, people get unhappy, divorce, and find someone else on whom to dump their baggage, and another unhappy relationship ensues..
So the question to ask is not, "what's wrong with you," but, "what's wrong with me that I keep finding and establishing intimate relationships with people like you."
If you truly love your self, then you should find a mate with that same characteristic. Be choosy; expect the best.
in my life, when I was able to tell her -- a studiously self-controlled
person with whom I worked, in a seriously polite environment --
when she was about to have her period. . I knew, because
her breasts were ever-so slightly larger, just before. -- j
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Initially it's physical attraction - like when you see this person from across the room and your sneakers melt onto the floor. Something I think people miss is that in addition to all of the physical beauty elements - individuality, facial symmetry, that all-important 0.7 hip/waist ratio (if you're talking about a man observing a woman,) muscles or boobage, etc. - every person expresses a part of their personality in a physical way, some more so than others: the way a person carries him/herself, the way they move, can convey an amazing amount of information about a person's personality, even in the first split second of seeing someone new.
In the second half of that split second, the mind (or mine, at any rate,) does a lightning-fast go / no-go correlation with one's own values. It's still just an initial, visual appraisal, but people generally short-change the value of, and the mind's ability to make, that split-second appraisal. I remember David Kelley talking about people having a "love at first sight" experience with Rand's philosophy, remarking that (I paraphrase,) "Generally you have to learn a little more about... the beloved, before knowing whether it's the real thing."
I've had both the experience of meeting someone whose physical appearance, mannerisms and body language were incredibly accurate indicators of that lady's personality, validated thoroughly after-the-fact, and the experience of meeting someone who projects a personality that turns out to be nothing like the actual fact as evaluated later. The former is far more the case than the latter, but the latter is also possible. So "love at first sight" is generally accurate, but still a crapshoot.
Something I came to realize just a couple of years ago - from a television show, of all things - is that more than anything else I am in love with: goodness. That begs the question of defining the "good," but there is a projection of benevolence - or lack of it - that every person does, whether they try to or not, and which can be neither faked nor concealed. It's something that shows up, invariably, in the eyes.
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Just my guess...
I've also noticed what seems to be similarities between overall facial features of husbands and wives.... shape, skin color, hair color, etc. Like choosing someone because you like what you see when YOU look in the mirror, so maybe it's a comfort-zone kind of thing? Whatever.
Early on, I noticed my wife and I had very similar skin coloring as well as very similar respiration rates! Gotta be a Ph.D. in that for someone, eh?
:)
PS it was two morado (purple) two red and one hot pink.
First comes physical, then comes the rest, then back to physical or a trip to the pharmacy.
the woman who introduced me to Ayn Rand, who is still a friend.
of mine -- and she was stunning in 3 ways::: mental power,
physical presence, and style. . the way she spoke to me in
conversation showed that she could think fast with precision.
finding that in a very attractive woman who "carried herself"
in a fashion which showed self-respect and self-confidence
just "got me."
the distinguishing factor with her was the coincidence
of these three factors -- which I had considered impossible.
we never got physical, and had only a couple of dates.
it was just a friendship, for her -- a strong one, but that
was all it was.
the friendship, however, is permanent. . my obsession over
her lasted 23 years. . I grew out of it.
I proposed marriage to three women, in my life, and two said yes.
these three also "hit me" with those coinciding factors,
but more slowly. . the first was unseen at first, playing a piano
behind a screen in the university student center. . the second
was a co-worker. . and one was a medical secretary
at my doctor's office. . strong mental impression, with physical
attraction, and style. . style suitable for a mountain-man
engineer like me, you know;;; not Style.
generalizing::: the mental match complemented by physical
attraction, supplemented by a style match does it for me.
if she hits the bull's eye, so to speak, I will lose it, over her.
it is all subjective, in my humble opinion. . and I am the older
of two kids (have a wonderful younger sister), but generally
a private kind of person. . I hope that this helps. -- john
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you living in?!!!
Attraction can start in an instant, but almost always fades over time (maybe 7 yrs? to coin a stereotype).
Real love usually grows over time, as we learn more about someone, and the values we see in them grow.
Keeping the two concepts separate helps prevent the apparent conflict of "love" for relatives and friends, including friends on the same gender.
In studies of limerence, too, it's found that mutual infatuation is relatively rare. It's usually one partner in that DUHHHH state and the other partner willing to be party to it, because they like the person enough to be willing to mate with them, but from much more of a "loyal friends with benefits" perspective.
For your offspring, your scoring of the best mate means they have higher chance of survival, better access to resources, better access to the best mates when they grow up, and better resources for nurturing offspring produced with their chosen mates. In other words, for you, this confers a level of immortality at a genetic level.
This is what underlies jealousy behaviour - trying to control one's mate and preventing others from getting access to him/her, even that most extreme criminal behaviour of killing a mate if it tries to escape. It's all a genetic strategy aimed at giving one's own line the best advantage. "If I can't have him, nobody else will!"
Sadly, the subconscious is not very good at factoring in more recent factors relating to the species. For example, killing a mate rather than letting them escape will most likely extinguish one's own further reproductive opportunities - there aren't a lot of mating options in maximum security prison.
The annoying thing is that something in our being tends to withhold our best creative energies until or unless we fall into that stupid gah-gah state. Then, we seem to have a muse inspiring us to create the most amazing things. All for the opportunity to pee into the gene pool and transcend the limited span of one's own mortal coil.
First big one was intellect and spirituality, second was physical, third was just because she was different than everything I was.
I am now pondering - and haven't experienced - actual friendship, which in turn takes me back to the beginning of the cycle.
I'm out of time and energy and money, but the fertile brain marches on.
Holding the same fundamental values is a necessary condition, but is sufficient only for friends. For true love (as Peikoff explains), one should see the other person as representing the sum of his top values, see him as irreplaceable, and see the need for a sexual connection.