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Crisis Progress Report (11): The Dark Side

Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 4 months ago to Economics
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Although there have been some reluctant murmurings acknowledging past ineffectuality, paradoxically, the belief persists that more debt, monetization, and suppression will stop the “healthy correction” from becoming a rout. These whistlers past the graveyard, shielded from reality and consequences for so long, have—to borrow from Darth Vader—no idea of the power of the Dark Side of Debt. All the governments and central banks of the world, with all their “macroeconomic tools,” will be as effective as a Boy Scout troop with shovels and superglue would be trying to repair a gaping fissure in Hoover Dam.

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  • Posted by gcarl615 9 years, 4 months ago
    One of the reasons the Fed lowered the prime rate to 0 is keep the interest on all that debt low so the PTBs can say its not a problem. Sooner or later, perhaps much sooner, they will have to raise rates and our interest expenses on all that debt will skyrocket hastening the down fall of the US dollar and our so called economy. You can only dance on the edge of a razor blade for so long.
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    • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 4 months ago
      Not to mention the unintended consequence of a low prime rate while the Fed insists banks keep a large portion of their assets WITH the Fed, AND the Fed pays a modest interest rate....

      So banks are faced with the Catch-22 of having to keep money AWAY from the loans market AND at LOWER RISK than if they were to actually loan the money to companies and individuals...

      So the velocity of money AND the amount available for loans are Both lowered Because of What The Fed is Doing.

      MarketMinder keeps saying that the End of QE will be a positive effect on the economy, as would a higher prime rate!

      But hey, Krugman and the Times are smarter, right?
      Bleah!
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      • Posted by gcarl615 9 years, 4 months ago
        Great comment plusaf. Ah yes those perky unintended consequences. You would think that the FED could have smart analysts to think these things through huh? Or perhaps they do and the consequences are actually intended?
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        • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 4 months ago
          The skeptic in me wonders how much is intentional and how much is stupidity. We may never know.

          A close friend who's worked in government and had some monstrously-high clearance level puts it this way... "Nothin is as it appears."

          She can't say more or she'd lose her clearances (or have to shoot me, as the saying goes...) but if I apply that to 'what happens nowadays' it seems to bear a lot of validity as 'the facts surface.'

          Hence my Law: "Wait Three... hours, days, months, years... whatever." while the truth or something closer to it percolates to the surface.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 4 months ago
    Economists who think increasing indebtedness can somehow keep market collapse at bay sort of remind me of a poodle puppy I used to have. The puppy decided one day that she was going to dig a hole in the water in her dish, flailing away with both forepaws. As she watched the water filling in the hole she tried to dig, she cocked her head, astounded the hole didn't remain. It only took a couple of times (and lots of water on the kitchen floor) for her to learn that no matter how hard she tried, she couldn't stop the hole from filling in. In that respect, she proved smarter than the economists, who after piling up an unserviceable national debt, still think more borrowing is the solution.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    Straight Line's presentment is absolutely correct. But he is the voice of the turtle. No one is listening. Read carefully what even the "no spending" conservative candidates say and you'll see that they miss points in the total picture. Stop spending and lower taxes will be a help but that Boy Scout Troop remains on stand-by.
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  • Posted by Solver 9 years, 4 months ago
    If an immoral person had acquired an unbelievable amount of debt yet had the brutal power to force other people to pay it, how would that affect the immoral person's spending splurges?
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  • Posted by Solver 9 years, 4 months ago
    Good thing we still have so many good innovators and producers otherwise big central government social planners would have torn down the economy a while ago.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 4 months ago
    The debts of the U.S. were never intended to be paid. They are intended to destroy all economies, to create chaos, to foment a "rebuilding" as the powers that be have been engineering for decades.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
      The official name of that strategy and it's related tactics is "Cycle of Repression." C. Marighella. See Tupamaro revolution of Uruguay in the 60's.

      It's not just for rebels. Governments can use it as well. The tip off was Hillary's comment on never let a good crisis go to waste.

      The rest you get from Wikpedia and other Google sources. in effect the Government some of you like to vote for declared war on the citizens.

      It's their arrogance in doing so as if it were a public service I can't stand.
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      • Posted by jimjamesjames 9 years, 4 months ago
        Just another version of Cloward and Piven. In effect, create a crisis and then never let it go to waste. And it's working.
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        • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
          Are they left wing extremists like Marighella too? have to go look them up.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
            I looked them up. They are all disciples of Marighella but I don't think they gave him credit. Carlos Marighella was the Communist revolutionary theoretician heavily active in Latin America. Among other writings was Mini-Manual For the Urban Guerrilla. The cycle of repression was his heavy weight offering. He hung out with Tanya, Che and that bunch of losers although Sendero Luminoso and others lasted longer.

            Thing of it is. The cycle of repression works.
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            • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
              Add to that.... almost worked in Uruguay and when used by a government with a controlled two party in one coalition system of government works even better.

              I won't say can't be stopped but it's doubtful.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 4 months ago
    Even though I would not want to see it happen, but some time the markets could end up in the Sub-Sub Basement. It's as if the brokers and retail investors (I'm one of them) are losing faith due to the volitility. Besides China, rising fears that gov't debt is also slowly dragging the markets into the darkness.
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  • Posted by Solver 9 years, 4 months ago
    Not only is all this "central bank monetization and interest rate suppression" highly addictive, it is also pandemicly contagious.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 4 months ago
    Two concussions can be made here, they are stupid; which seems to be self-evident, or they do it on purpose.
    For two days now I have been vetting This out;
    History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA) go here for a coherent view of this act.
    http://freedomclubusa.com/nesara_hist...

    It relates to this story, sounds too good to be true but is supported by precise details and history that can be documented. The rest of it is "say, anything and you die" kind of stuff.
    I might post this with commentary on my reservations of this gift without any personal accounting of us for allowing today's perversions to happen in the first place, otherwise we'll go right back to what we were doing wrong in the first place.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 4 months ago
    It does seem that to some extent our fate is tied to China. I read that they are selling some of their US debt holdings. When does that become a problem?
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    • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 4 months ago
      When the yuan gets reserve currency status is when selling US debt becomes a problem, and at that point, the effect on US citizens will be large and permanent.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
        Related to the other comment the scam pulled on the US Citizens affected people and governments around the world. One good reason why the Chinese are working for reserve currency status. The US Government can't be trusted to pay it's debts and show no signs of stopping that policy.
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 4 months ago
      Ask the same thing of the British. Last I looked the held more of our debt than the Chinese.

      It isn't really a problem. The US reneged on those loans by using debt repudiation and devaluation of the worth of the investment.

      In short the scammed the Chinese big time.

      Buy for One dollar get Two Dollars back in one year but when you do it will take three dollars to buy a loaf of bead intead of fifty cents.

      They'll be lucky to get ten cents on the dollar.
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